In all honest whether you support financially or not it effective everyone the same if he decide to delay the game. Personally I believe he deserve all kinds of criticism if it's from his supporters or not
RPGM Bones' Tales: The Manor [v0.20.0a] [Dr Bones]
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Actually nope, my grandma could work all the usual stuf around the house. Cooking, cleaning, you know women stuf. And i must remind you that was in 90s. By her own words she felt releaf when kidney was removed since she no longer felt pain. She did stay at hospital for 2 or 3 days and that's it.
I really don't care if people pay for his content or not. That is yalls prerogative. By god it is yalls god given right to waste money on whatever you want. You MIGHT get 19.1 soonish because again it seems like most of the work there is already done (but so was the Martha/dog scene). But 20..............that is still 7 months away. And in that time span whether Bones gets worn out, or bored of the same project, or sick, or randomly decide to come up with three other projects like he did that one time, or whatever other kind of bs it won't occur to the people who subscribe to him that he is simply lying to yall to get more money.
The total disconnect between reality and what is obviously forcefed bullshit that his fanbase continually gobbles up is what gets on my nerves.
The only thing I'm going to ask is that after this update...........during the big huge gap that usually follows...........ask yourself why it is taking so long............and why you are supporting him?
If it doesn't bother you to be a fifteen dollar subscriber for months on end with nothing in return, maybe you should ask your dad if he's okay with you using his credit card to continually pay fifteen dollars a month for nothing......
To the people randomly championing him..........bro let me tell you about content creators. They don't give a fuck about you. They don't know who you are. You can run back to his discord and tell him how you came to f95 and tried to stir the pot and he might be amused at your actions...........but he isn't going to remember randosmurf9991 a day from now. He's probably more amused you're defending him knowing that the f95 board is right while he continues to use his money on cocaine and hookers.
The total disconnect between reality and what is obviously forcefed bullshit that his fanbase continually gobbles up is what gets on my nerves.
The only thing I'm going to ask is that after this update...........during the big huge gap that usually follows...........ask yourself why it is taking so long............and why you are supporting him?
If it doesn't bother you to be a fifteen dollar subscriber for months on end with nothing in return, maybe you should ask your dad if he's okay with you using his credit card to continually pay fifteen dollars a month for nothing......
To the people randomly championing him..........bro let me tell you about content creators. They don't give a fuck about you. They don't know who you are. You can run back to his discord and tell him how you came to f95 and tried to stir the pot and he might be amused at your actions...........but he isn't going to remember randosmurf9991 a day from now. He's probably more amused you're defending him knowing that the f95 board is right while he continues to use his money on cocaine and hookers.
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I'm on sort of neutral ground when it comes to this issue. So please don't take this as me supporting one side or another. But I disagree with this sentiment.
Presumably Bones enjoys making the game. He's not working for some AAA game company that's got him programming under crunch on a project he has little say over. So once the monetary incentive issue gets past a certain point (in this case his ability to quit a day job and work on it solely) IMO it becomes moot. I get the idea some people have of "milking" a project. And I don't doubt that happens from time to time. Maybe even in this case. But if it were me developing this game I would feel incentivized to finish it to completion in a relatively timely manner just because doing so would increase my credibility... making future projects more likely to get even more funding.
Call me naive but even if Bones's only interest was making money he's got plenty of reason to want to move forward with the project rather than remain idle. At least I'd think any dev with sense would see that. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Well, he's noticed people pay him if he delivers or not, so I'd say he's got plenty of sense and knows he'd still make bank. Of course, he could receive an even bigger income if he worked hard and kept updating the game on a regular basis but if you managed to reach a point were doing barely anything nets you around 4k per month AND you live in a country were the exchange rate of those 4k equals that of 5 people doing a 9 to 5 job... why change anything?
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Okay so this is where I might be considered naive by some. Because I see that argument thrown around a lot. But like I said, I'm approaching this from the perspective that he enjoys making the game. Yeah it's work. But it's not the kind of wage slavery most people deal with day to day. In this case his work is more like that of an artist than anything else. It's creative expression and totally within his power to explore whatever avenue he wants with it. Doesn't that sound liberating? Why stop? I mean someone suggested cocaine and hookers so that's a possibility I suppose. But barring some sort of drug or sex addiction I'd think any normal person would simply continue working on a passion project.
And one more point about milking games like this: is there an end anyway? Imagine Bones worked harder than any dev ever has on one of these games. If he doesn't want the story to end it doesn't have to. What are we going to do? Complain the game is too long?
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next time he just drops an update and there's nothing new, exept notice prompts wich tells you new content will be in next updateLmao, new content needs 19.1
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This is similar to many other game developers, so you can't say it's something new on the market as a lot of people do the same thing. Remembering that it's not just in the porn game industry.
In your room on the left below the bed is a journal you can take. It appears in your inventory and you can look through it for character stats/hints.
- Jan 22, 2018
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If you grabbed the diary in the MC's room, you can quickly access it by pressing "Q"
- Jan 22, 2018
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Yes, but not right now. You can do it
You must be registered to see the links
because one of the important steps towards it is blocked for a rework in the current version (0.19). You will be able to do so in the update 0.19.1 (supposedly it's coming today or tomorrow).
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This is a terrible argument. You don't have to be scammed to be upset and voice concerns about someone who is participating in scam-like behaviors. The real moral good here is to pause your subscriptions if you cannot work on the game. Period.
bone's tales v0.19 is incomplete, it doesn't trigger martha and dog scene in the basemant.
I was a subscriber back in his patreon days (when the manor was on patreon). This was at a time when he released semi consistent. I don't remember the direct cause but I think patreon dumping the manor for the beasty content and him having to find subscribestar was the first big break of the manors development. People still paid him during this time when he entertained other projects, and had things like kofi or whatever the fuck the coffee thing is for content creators. At this point he realized people would pay him in the HOPES that he would release the manor.
I've been following this project almost since the beginning, and there is no telling how many starts and stops he's pulled. It essentially has become release twice a year and spend the rest of the year doing nothing, maybe releasing a teaser to hold over the desperate until the other bi annual release happens.
Of his excuses I remember the patreon/subscribestar switch, the I'm worn out from working on the manor bit, the I need to work on other projects to avoid burn out, the I'm sick with kidney stones (now gall stones). There are probably more things I'm forgetting.
The hookers and drugs thing is something we make fun of him here for because on his discord, during the height of his kidney stone situation, he told all his discord followers he was going to spend his birthday getting drugs and hookers. That is from him, not us.
If bones could guarantee clowns spending 4000 dollars on him every month for the rest of his life because people hope he releases sometime, he'd never work again. This isn't a passion project, it's a project he's forced to do occasionally because he can't make that money in Uruguay doing anything else.
He'd should've just done a webcomic instead of an actual game. Or collabed with Jackerman since Jackerman is always on his discord, but seems to be 1000 percent better at releasing content.
The best idea anybody has had was that at the start of every thread the updates having a timeline of their release dates so people can actually track releases and see how sus they are when they are released bi yearly. Remember this game has been going since 2018. We are now on the short end of 2022 not that far away from 2023. He's also done some shady renumbering of his releases. Remember this is supposed to be like 17.1 or 17.2. Not 19.0. 19.0 gives the implication that he has released more than he has.
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