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zartus

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Jul 4, 2018
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Even if someone were to make a fangame or otherwise take the project, what would people consider to be the proper direction?

Do you take the characters already there, but aren't yours, and finish the story based on where you think it was headed? Could you even monetize that legally?

Do you make you own characters, but keep the same scenario? Would people consider it the same game or just a spiritual successor? Because you can't just ignore the genuine attraction people have with the OG cast.

Or do you take consult with Bones to help him finish his game even if you likely will take a small, if any, cut of profits?


Whether anyone else takes this project in any way is going to depend on the answer to these questions. Otherwise it's dead in the water and you should spend your time elsewhere.
1) Teasing, corruption, incest and bestiality. Lots of games with the former 3 and not so much of the latter. Even less games with 2D art which to me is the big draw.

2) Aint no one going to court to protect their bestiality IP. Worst case the fanboys would be weaponized against you and you get doxxed.

3) The cartoony style is half the appeal, the writing and a result the characterization are okay. He has taken regular tropes about girls you find in these kinds of games and distilled them down to 4 not so unique characters. Innocent, quirky, younger sister, older bitchy sister, doting and guilty mom, curious and ignorant sister, MC with doubts, a willingness to corrupt and a giant dick... The thing about tropes is that they are tropes for a reason: they work. They play off information we already know and can fill in the gaps when the character isn't completely fleshed out.

4) This will never happen, its not what he wants. Why would he give up control? Allow some random internetian into his project? What would they do? The art and animating is the majority of the work. RPGM is a pretty basic program and the majority of the coding is already done.

Despite what most people say I think RPGM is a draw. It plays off a big nostalgia feeling from snes games of our (my) past. It allows exploration of an environment that can be done in a non linear fashion. It allows for cute pixel art in addition to the art style used in game. It gives slightly more agency to the user compared to renpy because the PC runs around at your command, you can always see your character, you can examine your environment without text prompts telling you where you can and cant look. This last point is rectified in the good renpy games by making object maps on the screen but its not used often enough (summertime saga does this well). Unity is also a good solution (5 of a kind does this very well) but also not used enough in sex games imo. Plus RPGM is much more accessible for "programmers" who don't know code but are good artists.

Bones has done great things with a limited engine: animation, day night cycles. Some nice tension building and a unique story despite the tropes. Hes also a great (imo) 2d artist, the babes are hot as hell. Its a functional enough game that it can attract new users/patreons/fans without having to add new content. Hell even grinding offers a sense of "accomplishment" and delayed gratification. Probably why so many successful games (porn and not) include it in some fashion.

You want to make a game like this? You need a writer, coder and artist. Ideally they are all one person (you) because the project can get bottlenecked by anyone of these people due to real life or differing opinions etc. You can see how many abandoned projects there are on this site alone and imagine there are plenty more that dont even make it to the stage of being posted here.

I started writing a renpy game that is a combination summertime saga /the manor type game. Just the script is an overwhelming task, learning coding on top of it is even more intense. Only with a prototype would I consider approaching an artist with a request to work on it with me. Writing a game solo is a difficult experience especially when you have no idea if its possible to profit off of, especially with such risqué topics like incest and bestiality.

And yes bro (me) really out here writing essays on porn games.
 
Feb 11, 2022
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1) Teasing, corruption, incest and bestiality. Lots of games with the former 3 and not so much of the latter. Even less games with 2D art which to me is the big draw.

2) Aint no one going to court to protect their bestiality IP. Worst case the fanboys would be weaponized against you and you get doxxed.

3) The cartoony style is half the appeal, the writing and a result the characterization are okay. He has taken regular tropes about girls you find in these kinds of games and distilled them down to 4 not so unique characters. Innocent, quirky, younger sister, older bitchy sister, doting and guilty mom, curious and ignorant sister, MC with doubts, a willingness to corrupt and a giant dick... The thing about tropes is that they are tropes for a reason: they work. They play off information we already know and can fill in the gaps when the character isn't completely fleshed out.

4) This will never happen, its not what he wants. Why would he give up control? Allow some random internetian into his project? What would they do? The art and animating is the majority of the work. RPGM is a pretty basic program and the majority of the coding is already done.

Despite what most people say I think RPGM is a draw. It plays off a big nostalgia feeling from snes games of our (my) past. It allows exploration of an environment that can be done in a non linear fashion. It allows for cute pixel art in addition to the art style used in game. It gives slightly more agency to the user compared to renpy because the PC runs around at your command, you can always see your character, you can examine your environment without text prompts telling you where you can and cant look. This last point is rectified in the good renpy games by making object maps on the screen but its not used often enough (summertime saga does this well). Unity is also a good solution (5 of a kind does this very well) but also not used enough in sex games imo. Plus RPGM is much more accessible for "programmers" who don't know code but are good artists.

Bones has done great things with a limited engine: animation, day night cycles. Some nice tension building and a unique story despite the tropes. Hes also a great (imo) 2d artist, the babes are hot as hell. Its a functional enough game that it can attract new users/patreons/fans without having to add new content. Hell even grinding offers a sense of "accomplishment" and delayed gratification. Probably why so many successful games (porn and not) include it in some fashion.

You want to make a game like this? You need a writer, coder and artist. Ideally they are all one person (you) because the project can get bottlenecked by anyone of these people due to real life or differing opinions etc. You can see how many abandoned projects there are on this site alone and imagine there are plenty more that dont even make it to the stage of being posted here.

I started writing a renpy game that is a combination summertime saga /the manor type game. Just the script is an overwhelming task, learning coding on top of it is even more intense. Only with a prototype would I consider approaching an artist with a request to work on it with me. Writing a game solo is a difficult experience especially when you have no idea if its possible to profit off of, especially with such risqué topics like incest and bestiality.

And yes bro (me) really out here writing essays on porn games.
Ain't nothing wrong with giving a shit bro. I've been following porn games longer than I care to admit, but my attraction to them isn't just carnal, I think they narratively serve a need that other more publicly acceptable games would never fill:
The difficulty of reconciling sexual feelings and experiences. Just as much a valid topic because it's a regular part of the human condition.

So its more than a bit disappointing that Bone’s just leaves a nice IP to rot because he'd rather just coast off the cash he gets now. I could be giving him more credit than he's worth, but I appreciated that David wasn't immediately on board with bonking his family and you have to actually work toward it. I'm not even into incest, but liked the progression well enough.
 

zartus

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Jul 4, 2018
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Ain't nothing wrong with giving a shit bro. I've been following porn games longer than I care to admit, but my attraction to them isn't just carnal, I think they narratively serve a need that other more publicly acceptable games would never fill:
The difficulty of reconciling sexual feelings and experiences. Just as much a valid topic because it's a regular part of the human condition.

So its more than a bit disappointing that Bone’s just leaves a nice IP to rot because he'd rather just coast off the cash he gets now. I could be giving him more credit than he's worth, but I appreciated that David wasn't immediately on board with bonking his family and you have to actually work toward it. I'm not even into incest, but liked the progression well enough.
Yes agreed on both counts. Its refreshing to see sex scenes added into modern games but they are often just throw away scenes that always tend to jump right into sex. Never any teasing, kissing, apprehension, vulnerability etc...

He's definitely got something good here. Its always possible he has fallen out of love with his project. It happens a lot with artists, its usually the passion that drives them. Even changes in his life that he wouldn't admit on a public forum (new gf watching over his shoulder etc...) its not like he can exactly discuss writers block about this game with people close to him. And asking for help would lead to the inevitable question of "can I get paid" which would reveal his identity to the masses through a money transfer. This is potentially illegal stuff he's making remember.
 

chopolander

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Dec 9, 2018
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There is a moment when we should ask ourselves.... Is it worth supporting people so that they end up taking the piss out of you?
 
Oct 6, 2019
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Shame this is abandoned. I really liked the scenes and art style of this game, but thankfully there are already enough great scenes to consider it worth playing.

I used to actually support creators when I first joined this community, had a few I was giving money to. But two things made me stop: my financial condition changed (moved back to my home country where I make a lot less money) and my disappointment in seeing projects I was supporting either get abandoned or slow down to a crawl. A notable example being Milfy City.

So I'm not going to support any creator with my hard earned cash. There's currently almost no projects that deserve it. The current state of this game is another testament of that. If they want my money the creators better earn it again. I make my own games (not porn) and I know how difficult it is but I'm not even monitizing it because it's mostly a hobby. If all these creators make so much money and they don't try harder they don't have an excuse.
 

Naoki87

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Jun 5, 2022
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Guys, what to write, the project is dead .... and in a year something is unlikely to change, the game can be safely put in a trash can
Ps either leave for the sake of naughty scenes from the gallery :D
 
Jan 21, 2021
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Because the creator is scamming you and the current 2700+ morons who continue to donate money to him each month.

I guesstimate that 2700+ is the amount of people actually donating to his subscribestar since he has a free sub option and I don't think he has 3000 people donating. Plus adjusting towards sub tier costs to that guess as well.
subscribestar actually shows the number of people subscribed to a specific role. it shows 2560 people under the free role as of my reply. it also shows that he makes 3059$ per month.
 

oneeyesuzy

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Dec 10, 2017
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This guy waits till he hurts himself or parties spending to much money and puts himself in a suit hole by being irresponsible and can't pay his way out the ask you're donations to help him the finally does 1 scene after
 
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