RPGM Bones' Tales: The Manor [v0.20.0a] [Dr Bones]

[Chupetin Trujillo]

Because the creator is scamming you and the current 2700+ morons who continue to donate money to him each month.

I guesstimate that 2700+ is the amount of people actually donating to his subscribestar since he has a free sub option and I don't think he has 3000 people donating. Plus adjusting towards sub tier costs to that guess as well.

What happened since when I said I was subscribed, but hey thanks for the information

 

[moreli]

If I recall, Dr. Bones lives in Uruguay. According to

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, the average wage/income there is less than 1/3 the amount he is theoretically making, which is $3k a month. So that means while in the US he would be

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, in his home country that man is balling. While he could increase his capital by actually making consistent updates to the game (which would attract more patrons and subs), he probably realizes that he is making a good amount already by not doing anything. And the blind, hopeful patrons who keep giving him money are the ones making that realization true.

I'm not a patron nor supporter of Dr. Bones, and in the past I'd join in on the bashing. But from a business point of view, he's intelligent if not somewhat a sneak. And we must also realize that until the last update this guy, despite having his game patches constantly posted on a pirate site and missing out on lots of money, he had been interacting with us. If patrons are complaining about his watery claims of being sick and having ball pains or whatever excuse, then it's more valid and influential than the lot of us. "Your ship that we raid monthly doesn't have any booty! What the fuck, you are a scallywag!" That's how we sound.

Fair point. He still is a shameless milker though.

 

[Professor Plátano Bananas]

so there are no artists or programmers in this thread at all?

There are but in my case the last time I messed with rpg maker was the ps1 version and last time I used editing software was back when I was in tech school, I did download the latest rpg maker in hopes of making something as I have storylines and ideas but it’s gonna take sometime

 

[valaid]

any news? XD

 

[joblo9394]

If I recall, Dr. Bones lives in Uruguay. According to

You must be registered to see the links

, the average wage/income there is less than 1/3 the amount he is theoretically making, which is $3k a month. So that means while in the US he would be

You must be registered to see the links

, in his home country that man is balling. While he could increase his capital by actually making consistent updates to the game (which would attract more patrons and subs), he probably realizes that he is making a good amount already by not doing anything. And the blind, hopeful patrons who keep giving him money are the ones making that realization true.

I'm not a patron nor supporter of Dr. Bones, and in the past I'd join in on the bashing. But from a business point of view, he's intelligent if not somewhat a sneak. And we must also realize that until the last update this guy, despite having his game patches constantly posted on a pirate site and missing out on lots of money, he had been interacting with us. If patrons are complaining about his watery claims of being sick and having ball pains or whatever excuse, then it's more valid and influential than the lot of us. "Your ship that we raid monthly doesn't have any booty! What the fuck, you are a scallywag!" That's how we sound.

Can't steal what is freely given. Even if you had to join his discord to get the links in recent times. The updates were not behind a paywall at least last I checked. Sharing a freely available game is not even pirating. Being on a pirate site those not change that.

The fact of him loosing money from F95 is from what I have seen inverted. F95 is his biggest gain for supporters. Even when I was on his discord the new fans and supporters first found it on F95.

He does no marketing, and hasn't updated his site in years. How else will they fined it. Patreon and SS are not the best sites for finding new content.

Just because something is free in no way means people have to like it, or is exempt from criticism. While some post or just shit post. Shit post that prop him up are no better.

As I have said in the past he owes us nothing and we owe him nothing.

Guy doesn't even check here anymore (or so he has once again said but we should remember the last time I brought that up) can't even heart his feelings.

The opinions that everything is fine and dandy have no more weight then those that everything is not fine and dandy. Now both are probably offtopic, but this is a game discussion thread, not game promotion, or positive reinforcement thread.

I am completely with you with the income, even more if you own your own house and car, even in many places in America you can easily make it on 3k a month. If all you have to pay is utilities, gas, and food you really do not need that much for one person.

 

[VillyVonka]

I don't understand why he doesn't want to make the game like before so much

 

[punisher2099]

He does no marketing, and hasn't updated his site in years. How else will they fined it. Patreon and SS are not the best sites for finding new content.

Is there a big community for AVNs on Reddit? Would he be allowed to have anything on Twitter?

 

[joblo9394]

Is there a big community for AVNs on Reddit? Would he be allowed to have anything on Twitter?

I've seen less get banned on both. As to how he is supposed to market. I don't know its not my problem all I am saying is F95 is providing exposer for him. He losses nothing from it being hear and only reaps the benefits of F95's popularity. It is why he was posting it hear himself before.

Beyond being an adult game which closes many doors for him. The bestiality, incest, and young appearance of the MC, and Mai make it where he would be hard pressed to post most anywhere. At one point he could have used pixiv but they are cracking down on content linked to uncensored content.

 

[TrialRagnarok]

I don't understand why he doesn't want to make the game like before so much

He has no responsibility of doing jack, it has become a comfortable way of doing things with no real accountability for what he does or doesn't do.

Let me give you a scenario: If you had a 9 to 5 job, were doing the game as a hobby/side hustle and you started to receive a lot of money for doing what seems to be jackshit, would you be willing to work as hard as you used to?

What motivation or incentive do you have if you're living in a country were 3k+ monthly is roughly a 300%+ increase of the average income per capita and you get that for doing little work for MONTHS? And given this same situation, wouldn't you artificially extent the duration of the game with Revamped/Reworked/Remade scenes that are good to begin with?

We've gotten so many updates were the "new" content is a rework of an scene already implemented while the ones that haven't been implemented have been like that for more than a year, let alone that there's no progress on the story, it has come to a standstill with no prospect of resuming in the long run or, at this point, ever.

 

[zarqupang]

let's put this as a ball in cup game keep your eye on the cup with the ball in it now i move the cup's around as fast as i can. now which cup is the ball under even a good slit of hand artist can get you to keep playing there game. i don't know doc bones to well are any dev's here but i can't say much because i don't make game's.

 

[Blossom Dancer]

Even if someone were to make a fangame or otherwise take the project, what would people consider to be the proper direction?

Do you take the characters already there, but aren't yours, and finish the story based on where you think it was headed? Could you even monetize that legally?

Do you make you own characters, but keep the same scenario? Would people consider it the same game or just a spiritual successor? Because you can't just ignore the genuine attraction people have with the OG cast.

Or do you take consult with Bones to help him finish his game even if you likely will take a small, if any, cut of profits?


Whether anyone else takes this project in any way is going to depend on the answer to these questions. Otherwise it's dead in the water and you should spend your time elsewhere.

 

[zartus]

Even if someone were to make a fangame or otherwise take the project, what would people consider to be the proper direction?

Do you take the characters already there, but aren't yours, and finish the story based on where you think it was headed? Could you even monetize that legally?

Do you make you own characters, but keep the same scenario? Would people consider it the same game or just a spiritual successor? Because you can't just ignore the genuine attraction people have with the OG cast.

Or do you take consult with Bones to help him finish his game even if you likely will take a small, if any, cut of profits?


Whether anyone else takes this project in any way is going to depend on the answer to these questions. Otherwise it's dead in the water and you should spend your time elsewhere.

1) Teasing, corruption, incest and bestiality. Lots of games with the former 3 and not so much of the latter. Even less games with 2D art which to me is the big draw.

2) Aint no one going to court to protect their bestiality IP. Worst case the fanboys would be weaponized against you and you get doxxed.

3) The cartoony style is half the appeal, the writing and a result the characterization are okay. He has taken regular tropes about girls you find in these kinds of games and distilled them down to 4 not so unique characters. Innocent, quirky, younger sister, older bitchy sister, doting and guilty mom, curious and ignorant sister, MC with doubts, a willingness to corrupt and a giant dick... The thing about tropes is that they are tropes for a reason: they work. They play off information we already know and can fill in the gaps when the character isn't completely fleshed out.

4) This will never happen, its not what he wants. Why would he give up control? Allow some random internetian into his project? What would they do? The art and animating is the majority of the work. RPGM is a pretty basic program and the majority of the coding is already done.

Despite what most people say I think RPGM is a draw. It plays off a big nostalgia feeling from snes games of our (my) past. It allows exploration of an environment that can be done in a non linear fashion. It allows for cute pixel art in addition to the art style used in game. It gives slightly more agency to the user compared to renpy because the PC runs around at your command, you can always see your character, you can examine your environment without text prompts telling you where you can and cant look. This last point is rectified in the good renpy games by making object maps on the screen but its not used often enough (summertime saga does this well). Unity is also a good solution (5 of a kind does this very well) but also not used enough in sex games imo. Plus RPGM is much more accessible for "programmers" who don't know code but are good artists.

Bones has done great things with a limited engine: animation, day night cycles. Some nice tension building and a unique story despite the tropes. Hes also a great (imo) 2d artist, the babes are hot as hell. Its a functional enough game that it can attract new users/patreons/fans without having to add new content. Hell even grinding offers a sense of "accomplishment" and delayed gratification. Probably why so many successful games (porn and not) include it in some fashion.

You want to make a game like this? You need a writer, coder and artist. Ideally they are all one person (you) because the project can get bottlenecked by anyone of these people due to real life or differing opinions etc. You can see how many abandoned projects there are on this site alone and imagine there are plenty more that dont even make it to the stage of being posted here.

I started writing a renpy game that is a combination summertime saga /the manor type game. Just the script is an overwhelming task, learning coding on top of it is even more intense. Only with a prototype would I consider approaching an artist with a request to work on it with me. Writing a game solo is a difficult experience especially when you have no idea if its possible to profit off of, especially with such risqué topics like incest and bestiality.

And yes bro (me) really out here writing essays on porn games.

 

[Blossom Dancer]

1) Teasing, corruption, incest and bestiality. Lots of games with the former 3 and not so much of the latter. Even less games with 2D art which to me is the big draw.

2) Aint no one going to court to protect their bestiality IP. Worst case the fanboys would be weaponized against you and you get doxxed.

3) The cartoony style is half the appeal, the writing and a result the characterization are okay. He has taken regular tropes about girls you find in these kinds of games and distilled them down to 4 not so unique characters. Innocent, quirky, younger sister, older bitchy sister, doting and guilty mom, curious and ignorant sister, MC with doubts, a willingness to corrupt and a giant dick... The thing about tropes is that they are tropes for a reason: they work. They play off information we already know and can fill in the gaps when the character isn't completely fleshed out.

4) This will never happen, its not what he wants. Why would he give up control? Allow some random internetian into his project? What would they do? The art and animating is the majority of the work. RPGM is a pretty basic program and the majority of the coding is already done.

Despite what most people say I think RPGM is a draw. It plays off a big nostalgia feeling from snes games of our (my) past. It allows exploration of an environment that can be done in a non linear fashion. It allows for cute pixel art in addition to the art style used in game. It gives slightly more agency to the user compared to renpy because the PC runs around at your command, you can always see your character, you can examine your environment without text prompts telling you where you can and cant look. This last point is rectified in the good renpy games by making object maps on the screen but its not used often enough (summertime saga does this well). Unity is also a good solution (5 of a kind does this very well) but also not used enough in sex games imo. Plus RPGM is much more accessible for "programmers" who don't know code but are good artists.

Bones has done great things with a limited engine: animation, day night cycles. Some nice tension building and a unique story despite the tropes. Hes also a great (imo) 2d artist, the babes are hot as hell. Its a functional enough game that it can attract new users/patreons/fans without having to add new content. Hell even grinding offers a sense of "accomplishment" and delayed gratification. Probably why so many successful games (porn and not) include it in some fashion.

You want to make a game like this? You need a writer, coder and artist. Ideally they are all one person (you) because the project can get bottlenecked by anyone of these people due to real life or differing opinions etc. You can see how many abandoned projects there are on this site alone and imagine there are plenty more that dont even make it to the stage of being posted here.

I started writing a renpy game that is a combination summertime saga /the manor type game. Just the script is an overwhelming task, learning coding on top of it is even more intense. Only with a prototype would I consider approaching an artist with a request to work on it with me. Writing a game solo is a difficult experience especially when you have no idea if its possible to profit off of, especially with such risqué topics like incest and bestiality.

And yes bro (me) really out here writing essays on porn games.

Ain't nothing wrong with giving a shit bro. I've been following porn games longer than I care to admit, but my attraction to them isn't just carnal, I think they narratively serve a need that other more publicly acceptable games would never fill:
The difficulty of reconciling sexual feelings and experiences. Just as much a valid topic because it's a regular part of the human condition.

So its more than a bit disappointing that Bone’s just leaves a nice IP to rot because he'd rather just coast off the cash he gets now. I could be giving him more credit than he's worth, but I appreciated that David wasn't immediately on board with bonking his family and you have to actually work toward it. I'm not even into incest, but liked the progression well enough.

 

[zartus]

Ain't nothing wrong with giving a shit bro. I've been following porn games longer than I care to admit, but my attraction to them isn't just carnal, I think they narratively serve a need that other more publicly acceptable games would never fill:
The difficulty of reconciling sexual feelings and experiences. Just as much a valid topic because it's a regular part of the human condition.

So its more than a bit disappointing that Bone’s just leaves a nice IP to rot because he'd rather just coast off the cash he gets now. I could be giving him more credit than he's worth, but I appreciated that David wasn't immediately on board with bonking his family and you have to actually work toward it. I'm not even into incest, but liked the progression well enough.

Yes agreed on both counts. Its refreshing to see sex scenes added into modern games but they are often just throw away scenes that always tend to jump right into sex. Never any teasing, kissing, apprehension, vulnerability etc...

He's definitely got something good here. Its always possible he has fallen out of love with his project. It happens a lot with artists, its usually the passion that drives them. Even changes in his life that he wouldn't admit on a public forum (new gf watching over his shoulder etc...) its not like he can exactly discuss writers block about this game with people close to him. And asking for help would lead to the inevitable question of "can I get paid" which would reveal his identity to the masses through a money transfer. This is potentially illegal stuff he's making remember.

 

[chopolander]

There is a moment when we should ask ourselves.... Is it worth supporting people so that they end up taking the piss out of you?

 

[Kerfluffigator]

Shame this is abandoned. I really liked the scenes and art style of this game, but thankfully there are already enough great scenes to consider it worth playing.

I used to actually support creators when I first joined this community, had a few I was giving money to. But two things made me stop: my financial condition changed (moved back to my home country where I make a lot less money) and my disappointment in seeing projects I was supporting either get abandoned or slow down to a crawl. A notable example being Milfy City.

So I'm not going to support any creator with my hard earned cash. There's currently almost no projects that deserve it. The current state of this game is another testament of that. If they want my money the creators better earn it again. I make my own games (not porn) and I know how difficult it is but I'm not even monitizing it because it's mostly a hobby. If all these creators make so much money and they don't try harder they don't have an excuse.

 

[Lovely123]

so this game really dead guys?

 

[Naoki87]

Guys, what to write, the project is dead .... and in a year something is unlikely to change, the game can be safely put in a trash can
Ps either leave for the sake of naughty scenes from the gallery

 

[PochitaTheChainsaw]

Because the creator is scamming you and the current 2700+ morons who continue to donate money to him each month.

I guesstimate that 2700+ is the amount of people actually donating to his subscribestar since he has a free sub option and I don't think he has 3000 people donating. Plus adjusting towards sub tier costs to that guess as well.

subscribestar actually shows the number of people subscribed to a specific role. it shows 2560 people under the free role as of my reply. it also shows that he makes 3059$ per month.

 

[Adoringfan]

Never thought I'd see the day an abandoned tag was added.