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Welcome to the club. His cult members there are very protective of their "leader"Got banned on the discord for stating the obvious that he's just stalling
Welcome to the club. His cult members there are very protective of their "leader"Got banned on the discord for stating the obvious that he's just stalling
I just realized how I wish to know how to do as you did and do small quotes on my message to make the message more organized, so bear with me lolIt's not regulated and that's the precise point! Patronage is an entirely different concept and if you look back centuries ago, creators supported by patrons were often sitting on their asses instead of creating, and when they did, they still did it on commission, so they were paid extra.
In the context of adult games, it's similar to a subscription services offered by places like Lesson of Passion Gold or Meet'n'Fuck, except with subscriptions, you see the content up front (through demos and old releases) and there are regular updates with no pre-releases, few sneak peeks and the content is published finished.
But there is no flexibility. If you were looking for a specific art style or a specific fetish, you would be out of luck.
Patreon put this model completely on its head. There are hundreds of creators who cater to every niche, but it came with scammers, and they were on Patreon ever since the beginning. I've seen creators who only put together a basic game to get a few patrons, but if none were coming, they reused the art in another game under another account, until a game took hold and they could continue from there.
By whom? By mods at F95. No such tag exists on Patreon.
I agree, but it's completely on people. There's no incentive for Patreon to introduce regulation or policing. It would lead to at least some patrons stopping support, while at the same time it would cost Patreon money, so they would have to increase their fees, which would drive away even more patrons and creators, which means they would have to increase their fees more.
All of that would achieve precisely nothing with some creators who are actively scamming people (since Patreon wouldn't even flag them, as they're ostensivly active).
There's no real solution to this problem. Even discord or other channels don't come in useful since people will ignore those who tell them to stop paying and not all patrons even use them.
The rework is the one with the background right? The one without a background looks better to me.new teaser rework
Patreon should definitely take a more proactive approach. There are creators who have not logged into the site for months on end and they still allow them to receive money. At the very least, to weed out the worst offenders, Patreon should:I just realized how I wish to know how to do as you did and do small quotes on my message to make the message more organized, so bear with me lol
In a perfect situation, Patreon or whatever crowdfunding service, would moderate projects. But how? Some people start a crowdfunding to back up an engineering project. Some people start crowdfunding to bankroll a book or a comic book. Some people do it to bankroll a game. So there is no metric to define a reasonable amount of time to deliver a product. It would be amazing if they did, but it's almost impossible. And let's be real here, they don't care as long people are still giving money to them.
What I think is a way more realistic approach is, for the patrons themselves, stop funding those projects and be aware of this practice. So in the future, devs would know that if they want to be paid, they need to work hard.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say most patrons are not on these forums and most people active here are not supporting creators on Patreon.About the "literally being abandoned", yes, I was referring to F95, which I assume is one of the largest forums(if not THE largest) for adult games.
That's down on Paypal. Paypal enables this behavior because you renew your credit card with them only when it expires. If you had to renew your card details with all recipients, it would suddenly be a chore and people would naturally review all their subscriptions at least once every five years.In the end, is up to the people rewarding bad behaviour. Although I've read someone mention in this thread, about people paying like $1 and then forgetting about it and paying for it forever. This makes a lot of sense, I also paid for stuff monthly that I never used and forgot about it and kept paying.
they will never. not in a million years. they're also profiting from it. they'll lose maybe millions if they do that. business is business, money is money, greed is greed. that's much about it.Patreon should definitely take a more proactive approach.
Brother, how did you know? Can you post some news to see?The next update will focus on dog and horse. Expect more NTR from them.
Closest to that story is Daily Lives on My Countryside, but it doesn't have any Bestiality in it.Is there any similar game like the BT:MANOR incest n beastily
"Luclie" lmaoso uh... Apparently, ever since I made that luclie AI bot as a troll, bones ended up making a separate channel in the discord server for AI bots for the game... and I'm the reason why it exists.
Its supposed to be a joke. Not to be taken seriously. The dev himself is a joke and I'm not surprised if he decided to add more bestiality content.Brother, how did you know? Can you post some news to see?
I like your ideas, they could definitely use some of them to at least, as you said yourself, weed out this kind of content. Although, some projects can't deliver anything if they are not ready. For example, if I decide to crowdfund a new ergonomic chair, I can't provide content until the chair is ready. But in general, I agree 100% with you.Patreon should definitely take a more proactive approach. There are creators who have not logged into the site for months on end and they still allow them to receive money. At the very least, to weed out the worst offenders, Patreon should:
1. Add mandatory tags like "main content", "fixes", "news/updates" and "side content". Main content is the one that matters. Patrons should be able to easily vote that posts tagged "main content" are not a true release, and if enough people vote, it's automatically marked as side content.
2. With that in place: Display a warning if a developer has not released main content for more than 2 months.
3. Automatically suspend payments if the creator:
- has not released main content for more than 6? 12? months
- has not logged into the site for more than one month and has not marked his account as being on vacation
- has not collected payments for more than two months
This is just an outline of an idea and just a starting point, but it could be refined over time.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say most patrons are not on these forums and most people active here are not supporting creators on Patreon.
That's down on Paypal. Paypal enables this behavior because you renew your credit card with them only when it expires. If you had to renew your card details with all recipients, it would suddenly be a chore and people would naturally review all their subscriptions at least once every five years.
honestly, DLOMCS creator has regular updates as well, ( well worth it updates )Closest to that story is Daily Lives on My Countryside, but it doesn't have any Bestiality in it.
Has way more content, as scenes, characters and things you generally can do
Thanks.I like your ideas, they could definitely use some of them to at least, as you said yourself, weed out this kind of content. Although, some projects can't deliver anything if they are not ready. For example, if I decide to crowdfund a new ergonomic chair, I can't provide content until the chair is ready. But in general, I agree 100% with you.
Which is why I mentioned that patronage is a different concept from buying a game outright, or even from crowdfunding a specific product.Let me put a tinfoil hat before I start this sentence, they don't want neither they will do any of that. They don't actually care if people are not delivering, they just want the cash. If people start to sue Patron(which I assume they probably can't), then they would make some drastic changes.
Not necessarily monthly renewals, just a reminder every few months to review your creators and easily disable payments to some of them. I found it to be a headache with most such services because every time I changed pledge value or canceled a pledge, I had to approve all the remaining ones. I've no idea what I'd done wrong, but that's how it went.I'll be honest, most of the games that are super famous inside the genre, I would never know about if not by this forum. But I can't say for sure for people who actively search for projects to crowdfund.
I never heard about a service with a renewal option, that I had to actively renew it monthly. Even though I agree with you, this is not very practical or convenient for the customer. Also, it's the same deal as Patron. They don't care as long as the cash is flowing.
the last 4, please, it is somethings we never saw hereCan someone upload the latest teasers from SubscribeStar on here?
Can someone upload the latest teasers from SubscribeStar on here?