VN Ren'Py Abandoned Buried Desires [v0.5] [Betisis]

[secrecy]

Well, that happens when developers/writers have no idea about what they are doing.

Game starts one way, then at first update developer realizes he is doing things too fast (in a sexual or erotic way), then rewind and removes some scenes, then at second update game is absolutely broken because there is no story, no idea about how to progress and just put some random characters without interest or personality into story. At the same time, they are realizing the fake choices they introduced at start have zero meaning leading to empty paths. At this moment, all the "loli" or "perverted father" main motive has no meaning, with a character that arrives home and goes straight to bed because developer have no idea what to do with main girls of the first version.

Doesnt help also creator being a non native English speaker. That helps to destroy these kind of games: dialogues are atrocious, just short phrases without sense or content or meaning that doesnt make any sense on how to introduce personalities or facts.

Another crappy useless "game" that will be forgotten soon.

 

[BurnerGuy]

The formula for a good porn game should be so simple: introduce characters, add scenes to increase the lust, gradually add h-scenes with each. In between, you can introduce a new character here and there for some sex.

So many devs lately want to turn their games into heavy psychological thrillers, with layers and layers of conflict that you have to navigate beyond the main characters. The problem with that approach is A) you have to be a really good writer to make that interesting, which most porn game writers are not, and B) 90% of your audience doesn't give a fuck about any of the garbage that doesn't lead to a fuck scene with whichever characters they've been lusting after.

Looks like this dev has gone WAY off in that direction. It's fine for devs to tell whatever story they want to tell, but this game originally looked like it was targeted towards one audience, and has now become targeted to a much smaller audience that doesn't really overlap with the first one. It cracks me up whenever that happens, because I imagine the dev having a particular set of kinks that they write their game around, and end up surprised that some of their kinks are total dick wilters for most players.

 

[Deleted member 1371216]

The formula for a good porn game should be so simple: introduce characters, add scenes to increase the lust, gradually add h-scenes with each. In between, you can introduce a new character here and there for some sex.

So many devs lately want to turn their games into heavy psychological thrillers, with layers and layers of conflict that you have to navigate beyond the main characters. The problem with that approach is A) you have to be a really good writer to make that interesting, which most porn game writers are not, and B) 90% of your audience doesn't give a fuck about any of the garbage that doesn't lead to a fuck scene with whichever characters they've been lusting after.

Looks like this dev has gone WAY off in that direction. It's fine for devs to tell whatever story they want to tell, but this game originally looked like it was targeted towards one audience, and has now become targeted to a much smaller audience that doesn't really overlap with the first one. It cracks me up whenever that happens, because I imagine the dev having a particular set of kinks that they write their game around, and end up surprised that some of their kinks are total dick wilters for most players.

My man check Hillside or Summer's Gone to cringe. I honestly don't know what people like about those games. Cheesy writing and no sex...

 

[secrecy]

The formula for a good porn game should be so simple: introduce characters, add scenes to increase the lust, gradually add h-scenes with each. In between, you can introduce a new character here and there for some sex.

So many devs lately want to turn their games into heavy psychological thrillers, with layers and layers of conflict that you have to navigate beyond the main characters. The problem with that approach is A) you have to be a really good writer to make that interesting, which most porn game writers are not, and B) 90% of your audience doesn't give a fuck about any of the garbage that doesn't lead to a fuck scene with whichever characters they've been lusting after.

Looks like this dev has gone WAY off in that direction. It's fine for devs to tell whatever story they want to tell, but this game originally looked like it was targeted towards one audience, and has now become targeted to a much smaller audience that doesn't really overlap with the first one. It cracks me up whenever that happens, because I imagine the dev having a particular set of kinks that they write their game around, and end up surprised that some of their kinks are total dick wilters for most players.

Developers introduce some meaningless "psychological drama" into story because 95% of them have no idea about how to progress on the erotic/sexual story. Just a way to distract players meanwhile they are milking the cow. I am pretty sure most of them just realize in the 2nd or 3rd update they have no idea about how to progress into story and how to render a good erotic scene (just overused blowjobs/missionary/cowgirl whatever fugly renders). Then they start to digress with some nasty drama, conflict or useless secondary character that appears from nowhere, making things worse.

Seems easy to develope a porn game, but the results say no. Same models, same reused renders, no personality, meaningless decissions, fake choices...mediocrity everywhere with a 4/5 stars rating from indulgent reviewers.

I had a light interest in this game because the loli theme: disastrous tag that normally leads to putrid games because developers are extra incompetent compared to other games due to the hard to manage situation of introducing teens into these games and do it properly. Finally, this is another failure.

 

[raj100]

For some reason devs are obsessed with gangster themes. I think they see every single other game out there the MC is in a gang of some sort and have to copy it. That's where this seems to be going. Maybe they saw how Radiant lured suckers into paying money with the promise of some loli content then slap in all kinds of filler to milk the story for literally years. That said this was the worst update I have ever seen. Went from super promising to total unplayable garbage kinetic novel where you bang literal crack whores and have no say in the matter.

 

[secrecy]

My man check Hillside or Summer's Gone to cringe. I honestly don't know what people like about those games. Cheesy writing and no sex...

Only played Hillside until 0.2. It was an ocean of cringe. Summer´s Gone could be saved for renders, but both have the same (common) big problem: developers focusing a porn game like if they were love movies, with a stupid sissy MC or some girls blindly falling in love with MC. Terrible mistake and another way to distract players while milking the cow in the way. Feelings should be restrained into games like this. This is also hard to do properly and some talent is needed.

 

[victoryroad]

For some reason devs are obsessed with gangster themes. I think they see every single other game out there the MC is in a gang of some sort and have to copy it. That's where this seems to be going. Maybe they saw how Radiant lured suckers into paying money with the promise of some loli content then slap in all kinds of filler to milk the story for literally years. That said this was the worst update I have ever seen. Went from super promising to total unplayable garbage kinetic novel where you bang literal crack whores and have no say in the matter.

And people still waste their money on such devs, while promising games end up abandoned with the lack of support. ICSTOR hasn't updated his game in over 2 years, still has 6000 idiots wasting their money on him. Radiant hasn't had an update in over a year, and don't get me started on their other game Polarity, which was actually a good and unique game, hasn't been updated in over 2 years. The dev of Waifu Academy delivers 10 minute updates and takes a 6 month period for it, yet people still defend him. Dual family, A Wife and Mother, I could probably go on and on.

Anyway back to this game, the dev does state this is a leaked 'experimental" build, so there's some hope that his final version will be different. If someone here is a patreon to the dev, can you maybe share how the patreons are reacting to this?

 

[Old Man From Scene 24]

I tried to help this dev, but he ignored me. He insisted on going with a big production team and letting them decide what is best for the game.

You fucked up dude...you seriously did. This dark, depressing story is NOTHING we signed up for. We were looking forward to a teacher manipulating students and his family, having a great old time...instead we got what ever the fuck this is. You sold out dude and I told you this was happen...but the fuck do I know right?

(If yall remember, the first games script was a mess with broken English, while the second update fixed it all. That was my edit...)

 

[TommyTuba]

Boy this has went downhill quickly

 

[TommyTuba]

And people still waste their money on such devs, while promising games end up abandoned with the lack of support. ICSTOR hasn't updated his game in over 2 years, still has 6000 idiots wasting their money on him. Radiant hasn't had an update in over a year, and don't get me started on their other game Polarity, which was actually a good and unique game, hasn't been updated in over 2 years. The dev of Waifu Academy delivers 10 minute updates and takes a 6 month period for it, yet people still defend him. Dual family, A Wife and Mother, I could probably go on and on.

Anyway back to this game, the dev does state this is a leaked 'experimental" build, so there's some hope that his final version will be different. If someone here is a patreon to the dev, can you maybe share how the patreons are reacting to this?

Yes, It would be interesting to know how the Patreoms are reacting to the new release.

 

[Paz]

I tried to help this dev, but he ignored me. He insisted on going with a big production team and letting them decide what is best for the game.

Are you sure you're on the right thread? Update issues aside, where does this whole "big production team" come from? He's solo.

 

[Old Man From Scene 24]

Are you sure you're on the right thread? Update issues aside, where does this whole "big production team" come from? He's solo.

Hes not solo anymore, according to him hes working for a group that produces games here (I seriously wish I could remember it off the top of my head). Basically he send them his releases, and they clean it up and basically tell him what he should do, while he is developing by himself, hes def not alone anymore.

 

[Paz]

Hes not solo anymore, according to him hes working for a group that produces games here (I seriously wish I could remember it off the top of my head). Basically he send them his releases, and they clean it up and basically tell him what he should do, while he is developing by himself, hes def not alone anymore.

That is objectively false (the only person that "helps" him is his translator), but you do you.

 

[Old Man From Scene 24]

That is objectively false (the only person that "helps" him is his translator), but you do you.

I was his translator before he went to the big group, the fuckin guy told me everything that was happening. Pretty sure ill take his word over yours.

 

[Jah-Ith-Ber]

I liked the tumultuous relationship with the niece. I liked the flashbacks with his daughters showing the problems with them and what led him to change schools. Everything else is straight WTF unnecessary. God I feel like the #1 rule of any VN is to allow players to refuse any sex scene unless it is 10000% required for the story to advance and even then you should think about rewriting it rather than force it. Why is MC forced to fuck a crack whore? You could talk to her and by sympathetic and she would have just as much if not more reason to come back and save MC anyways. Not required to fuck her for the story yet the author forces it. Lame.

Why stage this in a school in the first place if this is the direction you want the story to go? To manipulate patreon subs? I can't imagine how the story will ever get back to including the original cast (twins whose name I've already forgotten). If you want to intersperse the stories of teacher corruption with weird gang shit than you need way more frequent updates so that you can advance both storylines.

Man this was so disappointing because I feel like the teacher-student genre was super lacking with only two really subpar games "teachers pet" "the professor" and one middling one that also coincidently went off the rails with psycho drama "shadow over manston".

Pervy teacher corrupts students or slutty student corrupts married teacher. Such an easy formula ffs. Don't need anything else convoluted going on.

 

[indigoxiii]

So I have a question I have been taking all the love answers but looking back I'm just wondering is there a reason why I can't get both love and dominance or will one eventually cancel out the other and lock me on a path?

 

[MattShizzle]

WTF man? VERY little in the way of choices and no difference regardless. Kinetic novels suck. Also, all the flashback stuff was boring. It was also so long since the last one I don't remember much about it. Direction changed 100% from before. Definitely needs fixing.

 

[bamachine]

The terrible Engrish combined with the swerving storylines have done nothing but made me confused as fuck. So much potential with all the cute gingers, all being wasted with terrible storytelling.

 

[Badjourasmix]

What the fuck was this update? I don't like to be harsh with my criticism because I know these games are developed by very small teams and very often it's just one guy doing everything, but this was just bad. I was so excited for this game but after this update I don't even know if I want to keep playing.

 

[chicken head]

I Had High Hopes for this game but after playing this update why in the hell sudden change family entertainment to mob story-driven game, Many fellow members of this community already describe the situation so not going to write the same thing again