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Sharing is NTR. My opinion. I don't share. I'm a greedy fuck. lol
I'm just going to reply on this once since I am tired of trying to talk sense into people who just refuses to learn.. NTR is when one of the partners does not consent to the other one having sex with somebody else, more or less cheating. Sharing is the same as swinging as both partners consent to having sex with other people. They are therefor nothing alike and your opinion is yours to have but it is wrong!

I enjoy NTR but will continue to enjoy this game either way as it has other of my fetishes for me to enjoy :)
 

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Sharing is NTR. My opinion. I don't share. I'm a greedy fuck. lol
Emm your opinion is irrelevant when things are defined. Imagine everybody use their opinions instead of the way they are defined in dictionaries.

Example: use the word "great" for "sad". "I heard some great news. 21 kids were killed in crash. Their great parents went today to recognize their bodies. 15 were so damage that are still unknown. Definitely a great day in the history of this town"

Several definitions, neither is "Sharing"

: , Japanese term for cheating or being unfaithful, used in hentai media

: Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other.

: NTR or , ( . 寝取られ, 寝(ne) as in 寝取られ means "sleep", in this case, " sleeping with someone (cheating)". 取られ(torare) is a noun coming from 取られる(torareru), "have something stolen/robbed".

I don't like NTR either (but I totally understand if you act like a douchebag to your girl and she cheats. Be a nicer person if you dislike that). But please, use the words for what they are, not for what your opinion tells you. Sharing (which I dislike) is not Netorare (which I also dislike, specially when forced, in the sense that you act like the best guy and still things go that way.. otherwise, as I mentioned I kind of deserve it for being a cheating asshole, even if I dont like it.)

And please people give it time to this or any other story before comparing. This was a first release. Can end up being great or terrible! Just have an open mind about it.

Personally: love the renders, girls are amazing. Story so far is ok, needs more time to know where it will go. As I mentioned before, English quality is the low point in this novel.

Lets hope and wait.
 
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You can be against sharing (and choose not to do it if a game offers the option. Just as I will choose to avoid pregnancy.) Your choice and I won't argue. By definition, NTR it is not.

The dev has said you're going to get what you want. So be happy :)
I'd rather skip a game if the sharing is implied. But, also, I'd rather the dev make the game he or she wants, not cater to people who don't want what he or she wants. Quickest way for a dev to burn out, is to give everyone what they want, instead of what they want.
 
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Considering I've already made a mod, and intend to continue and expand on it (especially now that Betisis confirmed there will be no NTR, and that it will be harem) I have to say on one point that I agree it would be easier to find, but in all honesty the way it is now wasn't all that hard to figure out.
Sure, there aren't that many yet for now :) But, finding them, was still a bit of a pain, with a chance to miss some. I mean, it's so early on, why not make it easy for the futur right at the start? :D And the dev said he'd take my suggestion already, which is nice ^_^
 

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I'm just going to reply on this once since I am tired of trying to talk sense into people who just refuses to learn.. NTR is when one of the partners does not consent to the other one having sex with somebody else, more or less cheating. Sharing is the same as swinging as both partners consent to having sex with other people. They are therefor nothing alike and your opinion is yours to have but it is wrong!

I enjoy NTR but will continue to enjoy this game either way as it has other of my fetishes for me to enjoy :)
No need to reply, but, you did, so I will also. We all have our kinks and fetishes, what one person likes doesn't mean everyone likes it. I'm more extreme when it comes to what I like or don't like. To me, sharing is also NTR. As laeg has said. It doesn't matter if the chars agree to. I personally feel that sharing is NTR. I don't care what the actual definition for it is. I have said it a million and 1 times and I'll say it again: I do not share. I'm a greedy asshole. I don't believe in the whole 'sharing is caring' bs. I'm not going to bust anyone's balls over it anymore. People's thoughts on it are their own.
 

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idk if these definitions can be used on game in 100% of meaning....

if u r plaing like MC and u r forced to share ( NPCs agree but player not) it is geting NTR vibes for player...
Whether you are forced or not would still be considered sharing. You would put the "forced" instead of "optional" but it is still considered "sharing". That is the reason why we have adjectives and conditionals.

People need to first use the definition of things for what they are, not what they want them to be. It is so hard to say "I dont like x and I dont like y" if you want to say you dont like sharing neither NTR? And second, give it time before complaining. They asked Dev, he said no. Then it goes "sharing is also NTR in my book, so don't do that either if you say you are not going to do NTR". How about using the right words and letting dev do whatever he wants? If it fits your taste, good, otherwise, stop complaining and move on.
 

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Sharing is NTR. My opinion. I don't share. I'm a greedy fuck. lol
idk if these definitions can be used on game in 100% of meaning....

if u r plaing like MC and u r forced to share ( NPCs agree but player not) it is geting NTR vibes for player...
No need to reply, but, you did, so I will also. We all have our kinks and fetishes, what one person likes doesn't mean everyone likes it. I'm more extreme when it comes to what I like or don't like. To me, sharing is also NTR. As laeg has said. It doesn't matter if the chars agree to. I personally feel that sharing is NTR. I don't care what the actual definition for it is. I have said it a million and 1 times and I'll say it again: I do not share. I'm a greedy asshole. I don't believe in the whole 'sharing is caring' bs. I'm not going to bust anyone's balls over it anymore. People's thoughts on it are their own.
I get what you mean, since I also dislike both sharing and NTR and like you - and others you replied to as well - I want all for me. My precioooooousssssssssssssss ... And of course we often have the dichotomy that there will be things a character likes but the player does not (or vice versa). So I get that the character agreeing to share can feel the same for a player because it does for me, too.

However, these are different kinks and should be labeled and treated differently, even if many on both sides may agree that they enjoy or dislike them both, not all will. NTR has an additional aspect of humiliation of the MC that swinging/sharing does not have, and this may be nice or not so nice to different players.

And yes, on this site they are defined differently:

NTR: Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.
Swinging: A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.
 

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I think everyone needs to just let the dev write what he or she wants. People do have the right to express themselves on what they don't like and what they do like. Anyone who says otherwise is just looking to cause issues. Just let the dev express him or herself as they please and time will tell whether or not a game is something we would like to play or not.

Anyone who attacks others for their likes or dislikes is just an asshole. I'm an asshole, but, I can keep it in check. Some people just can't help themselves. They need to have this whole 'holier than thou' attitude. "I'm right and you're wrong." Just goes to show how immature some people are.

I'm still going to be watching this game to see where it goes.
 

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Whether you are forced or not would still be considered sharing. You would put the "forced" instead of "optional" but it is still considered "sharing". That is the reason why we have adjectives and conditionals.

People need to first use the definition of things for what they are, not what they want them to be. It is so hard to say "I dont like x and I dont like y" if you want to say you dont like sharing neither NTR? And second, give it time before complaining. They asked Dev, he said no. Then it goes "sharing is also NTR in my book, so don't do that either if you say you are not going to do NTR". How about using the right words and letting dev do whatever he wants? If it fits your taste, good, otherwise, stop complaining and move on.
we can be discusing this all day but if person is strongly agains sharing and he must share in game i understand why he feel it like NTR

samething like i dont like when devs shoving sex scenes with future LI with other mans to just made some scenes at first release... u can dont need agree but main factor in NTR is jealousy.
 
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we can be discusing this all day but if person is strongly agains sharing and he must share in game i understand why he feel it like NTR

same think like i dont like when devs shoving sex scenes with future LI with other mans to just made some scenes at first release... u can dont need agree but main factor in NTR is jealousy.
I understand your point. But it is a bad policy to just use "feelings and opinions" instead of definitions. That would just lead to disappointment and confusion down the road, if not direct conflict.

As I explained before. Supposed you aske dev if the game is going to have NTR. You think you are saying "NTR or force sharing", he understands just "NTR". As he said no, you subscribe. Later a few months down the road you see the forced sharing and say ""this guy has totally lied to me. I asked him and he said no. What the fuck is this?"

Clearly, from their point of view, neither is wrong. It is just that you guys used different definitions. But had you just accord to what is the right definition, no conflict. I had given several proof that they are not defined the same way, and Cartageno further explain it that this is also the case. So given that we have already established definitions, just use what is right and avoid confusions.

That simple idea was my critique to previous comments. Not on their opinions of their kinks. First, that would be a waste of my time, as someone's opinion over your taste are irrelevant, no matter how many people tell me chocolate is horrible i think it is amazing. Second, as I mentioned, I don't like either, sharing or NTR, specially when forced. But that was not the point of my critique.

Anyway, let's stop this nonsense. Once and for all. Dev was asked and he answered on the topic. Case closed in my opinion.
 
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can we know the planned tags it will help clarify some things, i just wanna know if we will be forced to share and will sex be optional
 
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I understand your point. But it is a bad policy to just use "feelings and opinions" instead of definitions. That would just lead to disappointment and confusion down the road, if not direct conflict.

As I explained before. Supposed you aske dev if the game is going to have NTR. You think you are saying "NTR or force sharing", he understands just "NTR". As he said no, you subscribe. Later a few months down the road you see the forced sharing and say ""this guy has totally lied to me. I asked him and he said no. What the fuck is this?"

Clearly, from their point of view, neither is wrong. It is just that you guys used different definitions. But had you just accord to what is the right definition, no conflict. I had given several proof that they are not defined the same way, and Cartageno further explain it that this is also the case. So given that we have already established definitions, just use what is right and avoid confusions.

That simple idea was my critique to previous comments. Not on their opinions of their kinks. First, that would be a waste of my time, as someone's opinion over your taste are irrelevant, no matter how many people tell me chocolate is horrible i think it is amazing. Second, as I mentioned, I don't like either, sharing or NTR, specially when forced. But that was not the point of my critique.

Anyway, let's stop this nonsense. Once and for all. Dev was asked and he answered on the topic. Case closed in my opinion.
Now that it's all settled, can we all go get something to eat and maybe a few beers? All this gabbin makes me hungry and thirsty. Ahahaha
 

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Really a good start to a game / VN that can go in many directions. I look forward to seeing what happens next. I also like the way you made a cliff hanger. Love your graphics, it seems very vivid. So all in all, a game I look forward to continuing
 
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