diezel12345

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I half agree with you. The Riley stuff doesn't do anything for me, but I'm also not so insecure that it bothers me in any way either. But yes, there are some insecure players that can't handle content existing even if it is totally optional. :rolleyes: They're probably worried they'll be tempted if that content is available. :sneaky:

I think what you might be missing is that at least some of the "crying about Riley" (especially early on) wasn't as much about Riley as it is/was about the total change in focus in the story from what it started out as and was promoted as in early previews, etc. A lot of players tried the game because it looked like a game focused on the mom & daughter next door. And it was all about them at first. But sadly we have seen nothing of them in a good while now, and the first thing fans could latch on to and complain about was that the Riley content most of them weren't playing took the dev's focus away from continuing with the other characters.
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i 100% agree about the other characters but from what i remember riley was always featured very early in the game, preview screenshots, and tags. to me the game should have just focused on those 3 characters
 

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i 100% agree about the other characters but from what i remember riley was always featured very early in the game, preview screenshots, and tags. to me the game should have just focused on those 3 characters
You are completely correct - Riley was there from the beginning. I was just pointing out (or trying to...but maybe failing to do it clearly :LOL:) that that character was the first target of frustration over long pauses between updates, to the point where that character became the rallying cry for all complaints about the game then and since. [For me personally, when I first came across the game on a different site the previews did include one image of Riley if I remember correctly, but it wasn't one where it was obvious the character was male.]
 
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You are completely correct - Riley was there from the beginning. I was just pointing out (or trying to...but maybe failing to do it clearly :LOL:) that that character was the first target of frustration over long pauses between updates, to the point where that character became the rallying cry for all complaints about the game then and since. [For me personally, when I first came across the game on a different site the previews did include one image of Riley if I remember correctly, but it wasn't one where it was obvious the character was male.]
So as a guy who REALLY likes Riley, i kinda "agree" with the anger(not the homophombia) but i think it's misplaced, I think what happen is the same as why NTR became such a hated tag here, Riley became really popular with a certain fanbase namely the "Boy-Love" group, who saw Riley's fine little twink ass(still not better than the twin in pre-reboot twisted world tho) and started supporting the game in droves and asking for "more Riley" as they subbed, which caused the dev to feel the need to acquiesce to the demand since that's what the big money subs wanted, which pissed off the lower teir subs(who probably reported his game let's just be real here) as revenge, sort of how NTR fans can and will invade games as high teir support demand their kink get added to the project and inturn alienate the old fans who start rioting in the comments (get banned) then come to places like here(f95) and continue to rage and piss everyone off(leading to the "Vanilla Fag" insult becoming common...the irony isn't lost on me) because they wont stop and it ultimantly kills the game either do to the toxic fanbase rioting and turning people off of the game or the dev feeling like the toxic fans where right and they hated what the game became and they kill it them selves, which again is sorta what i think happened here(this thread), OG fans saw Riley getting more and more screen time, saw his story(his blossuming glorius twinkness and the rich bitch) start to take over the whole game, and the girls, get pushed further and further back and they attack the game and dev rather than drowning out the support that made the shift happen, hell as much as i love Riley and was wondering if he was gonna stay a boy or Transition to a "girl" (mc being a doctor made me suspect this plot line btw), i also wanted to see at least some "good" progress with the girls, also i still wanna know if MC killed that girl on the beach with his dick or not... she wasn't moving or making sounds once he was done... questions Lmao,
 

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So as a guy who REALLY likes Riley, i kinda "agree" with the anger(not the homophombia) but i think it's misplaced, I think what happen is the same as why NTR became such a hated tag here, Riley became really popular with a certain fanbase namely the "Boy-Love" group, who saw Riley's fine little twink ass(still not better than the twin in pre-reboot twisted world tho) and started supporting the game in droves and asking for "more Riley" as they subbed, which caused the dev to feel the need to acquiesce to the demand since that's what the big money subs wanted, which pissed off the lower teir subs(who probably reported his game let's just be real here) as revenge, sort of how NTR fans can and will invade games as high teir support demand their kink get added to the project and inturn alienate the old fans who start rioting in the comments (get banned) then come to places like here(f95) and continue to rage and piss everyone off(leading to the "Vanilla Fag" insult becoming common...the irony isn't lost on me) because they wont stop and it ultimantly kills the game either do to the toxic fanbase rioting and turning people off of the game or the dev feeling like the toxic fans where right and they hated what the game became and they kill it them selves, which again is sorta what i think happened here(this thread), OG fans saw Riley getting more and more screen time, saw his story(his blossuming glorius twinkness and the rich bitch) start to take over the whole game, and the girls, get pushed further and further back and they attack the game and dev rather than drowning out the support that made the shift happen, hell as much as i love Riley and was wondering if he was gonna stay a boy or Transition to a "girl" (mc being a doctor made me suspect this plot line btw), i also wanted to see at least some "good" progress with the girls, also i still wanna know if MC killed that girl on the beach with his dick or not... she wasn't moving or making sounds once he was done... questions Lmao,
I think you ought to edit your post and press enter a few times in there, my man. Huge walls of texts like that are painfully difficult to read for... Well, basically everyone, really. So please be kind and put a bit of spacing between your paragraphs in your post, will you? Thanks.

-Mal
 
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One man can only wish.

Still, if it never gets picked up again, I'd be sad because I was looking forward to the MC going into the "main bad guy" mansion and "correcting" his daughters (and that other twink, while we're at it) and maybe break Riley for good by showing him his work once he was done.

On the other side, I'd have also loved to keep seeing mother and daughter fall even more to his degeneracy and, eventually, use them to intrude into other families which is what the recent updates had me think was going to happen.

Wish I was good with whatever software the dev was using and at 3d modeling so I could do it myself.
 
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wiseold6996

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Yeah, but see, all of the gay content in this game was there basically from the start and it was entirely optional on top of that. So no one has any real right nor reason to get all pissy over it with this game in particular. That's why I pointed out that it was so stupid to use as an argument that the game was somehow "lesser" for having it.

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It was not optional lmao. The game clearly implied the stuff with riley was still happening.
 

Stan5851

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One thing I'm curious about. Is it written somewhere in the game that all fetishes and kinks in the game are optional? Why should the author of the game take into account the opinion of "snowflakes with delicate mental organization"? Did he promise something? No, he didn't. Then what complaints can players have about Riley's content? That's right, none.

I agree that Riley's content is very hot. And he she herself is mega hot even for a simple heterosexual guy like me who genuinely can't stand any gay content. I perceive everything that happens with Riley as futa/trans content because that's what she (Riley) looks and acts like.

And Riley's looks, I'll be honest, are sexier and more feminine than many of the purely female MCs in AVN, so with all due respect, I just don't have anything to pick on here. So I don't see what complaints there could be against the game author at all. He did what he did, whoever doesn't like it, walk on by.
 

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So as a guy who REALLY likes Riley, i kinda "agree" with the anger(not the homophombia) but i think it's misplaced, I think what happen is the same as why NTR became such a hated tag here, Riley became really popular with a certain fanbase namely the "Boy-Love" group, who saw Riley's fine little twink ass(still not better than the twin in pre-reboot twisted world tho) and started supporting the game in droves and asking for "more Riley" as they subbed, which caused the dev to feel the need to acquiesce to the demand since that's what the big money subs wanted, which pissed off the lower teir subs(who probably reported his game let's just be real here) as revenge, sort of how NTR fans can and will invade games as high teir support demand their kink get added to the project and inturn alienate the old fans who start rioting in the comments (get banned) then come to places like here(f95) and continue to rage and piss everyone off(leading to the "Vanilla Fag" insult becoming common...the irony isn't lost on me) because they wont stop and it ultimantly kills the game either do to the toxic fanbase rioting and turning people off of the game or the dev feeling like the toxic fans where right and they hated what the game became and they kill it them selves, which again is sorta what i think happened here(this thread), OG fans saw Riley getting more and more screen time, saw his story(his blossuming glorius twinkness and the rich bitch) start to take over the whole game, and the girls, get pushed further and further back and they attack the game and dev rather than drowning out the support that made the shift happen, hell as much as i love Riley and was wondering if he was gonna stay a boy or Transition to a "girl" (mc being a doctor made me suspect this plot line btw), i also wanted to see at least some "good" progress with the girls, also i still wanna know if MC killed that girl on the beach with his dick or not... she wasn't moving or making sounds once he was done... questions Lmao,
Yeah, I think anytime a dev changes an already-established game/story to satisfy any particular niche sub-group of fans (or complainers) - whether it involves kinks I like or kinks I don't like - it tells me 2 things:

1) Most importantly, the dev is too soft to survive and complete a good, consistent game in the harsh petri-dish of the internet, where you need a strong artistic vision AND the ability to tune out a lot of negativity and attacks from little boys who delusionally think every game should cater to their individual tastes and go ballistic when the real world intrudes on that carefully crafted alternative reality in their heads. Even if the changes are ones I like personally, the dev has already waved the white flag by making them, so I know more major changes are inevitable and that the game is probably no longer worth the time to keep close track of. Either I don't like the changes just made, or I do like them but know with 100% certainty that the weak dev will make more changes eventually that I won't like.

2) The community will quickly devolve into mostly angry posts by fans of the original & fans of the changes, and the few thoughtful posts that are worth reading will be buried and hard to find, making the thread a good candidate to UnWatch.

I think that devs of games often panned as "boring" or "vanilla" may often deserve more praise than they ever get for not caving to the squeakiest wheels and instead sticking with their original story ideas in the face of a lot of negativity. I have infinitely more respect for devs who can do that then those who change course at the first light breeze they encounter. (y) [And a lot of those negative descriptions of those games being "boring: or "vanilla" may just be players who tried to push the dev to cater to their kinks but failed and are just bitter.]
 

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From what I see he still has 60 subscribers. As much as I like this game if we actually want an update the only way would be for people to stop giving him free money so he wakes up no?
 
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