Avaron1974

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Yeah, that was my takeaway from this update as well, unless the dev is playing us. :LUL:
She knew her "friend" was close by so it's possible she screamed and acted childish because she was there but maybe I'm just trying to read too much into it, and she's simply a childish/immature character that will need to be disciplined/reformed.
That's the problem, we don't really know enough about her to know what her real game is.

Whether she knows about her friend and is playing her or she's just immature.

Then again, we don't really know what Jessica's game is. At first I thought she was fully behind her dad and brother but now i'm not so sure.

I know she's deff looking out for herself and she's a love interest so i'm going to assume she'll be useful but it's bugging me that I can't work out her angle.
 

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I think we will be staying with the mc's family for a while, but since Ashley and Jessica are besties (or not) the dev will be working on the "link" to jump to the Smiths there. Also, it would be interesting that Jessica is actually attracted to the mc (apart from physically, maybe in a more practical way about gaining power through joining both families, something that clearly her father and brother won't be to happy)



I think he missed a ",". We are right now with the mc's family.
Yea, i'm curious why Jessica is trying to help MC. I'm getting mixed signals, but perhaps it is as you said, she might be attracted to him and is also vying for power.

Looking at the description of the Smith women, it seems to be patriarchal on the surface but it is the women that actually controls the family and are deeply involved in the politics. Her grandmother is the matriarch and possibly the true leadership of the Smiths. The women are not trophy wives. So that might explain Jessica's angle, like you mentioned joining of both families, after all they aren't the only competition.

I'm more interested in Elizabeth though, the only outlier in the family and prove that the Smiths still have a shred of humanity left in them. Just wondering what's her disability? Mute?
 

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Why do 99% of the MCs in these games almost always look like the biggest gym-pumping idiots and high school bullies? Is it so difficult to create normal-looking male MCs who don't look like they've got a fart stuck up their ass and like there's no more going on in their protein-filled heads than in a rock?
 
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It's from the game itself, I didn't use the patch, and they are using stuff like LittleBrother and BigSister, guessing it's an error from the dev, if I had to guess it's probably the code trying to call on the relationship variables that don't exist anymore.

Edit: If you have a save before this version then you don't need to use the patch from what I've seen they still refer to themselves by what you changed in the previous versions with the exception of the littlebrother/bigsister stuff.
I was assuming that it was a mistake from the game itself, yeah, since there's no way for you to word them as Little/BigBrother/Sister. The only exception is that you can choose Ashley being your twin, that's about it.
I had to use the patch because I forgot to edit the extended family relationships, and since the manage tab was now gone, there was no other way for me to change that.
 

Avaron1974

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Why do 99% of the MCs in these games almost always look like the biggest gym-pumping idiots and high school bullies? Is it so difficult to create normal-looking male MCs who don't look like they've got a fart stuck up their ass and like there's no more going on in their protein-filled heads than in a rock?
Mainly because this MC does use the gym.

No idea what you mean by normal, it's not like guys with muscle are rare.

It is pretty common for young, rich and successful people to take care of themselves and keep fit.
 

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I think we will be staying with the mc's family for a while, but since Ashley and Jessica are besties (or not) the dev will be working on the "link" to jump to the Smiths there. Also, it would be interesting that Jessica is actually attracted to the mc (apart from physically, maybe in a more practical way about gaining power through joining both families, something that clearly her father and brother won't be to happy)



I think he missed a ",". We are right now with the mc's family.
Shoot! I thought it was time for the Smiths and the Joneses. Thanks for the info, dude.
 
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AS of .18, the relationship manager that was reachable from mc's pic is gone. You can't manage relations. Now when you click manage relationships, it tells you there is none to manage. Here is a file that will bring that option back. THIS FILE HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE DEV WHATSOEVER.
how do i "install" the patch?
What i did was: clicked the patch - on the linked webside - rightclicked and saved as .rpy
kopied the .rpy into the game folder.

but when i try to change relationships i get the message "non to change"
 
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Avaron1974

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how do i "install" the patch?
What i did was: clicked the patch - on the linked webside - rightclicked and saved as .rpy
kopied the .rpy into the game folder.

but when i try to change relationships i get the message "non to change"
Who's relationship are you trying to change?

The MC has a set family so you can't just make randoms into his sisters.
 

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Who's relationship are you trying to change?

The MC has a set family so you can't just make randoms into his sisters.
i´m trying on the mc´s screen
change name -
change nicknames -
Change relationships - here is where i try to change something and i get the msg.
change Content preferences
 

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Put it in the game folder, the one with the image folder, save folder, .rpy script files, etc. Not the folder with the .exe
 

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That's the problem, we don't really know enough about her to know what her real game is.

Whether she knows about her friend and is playing her or she's just immature.

Then again, we don't really know what Jessica's game is. At first I thought she was fully behind her dad and brother but now i'm not so sure.

I know she's deff looking out for herself and she's a love interest so i'm going to assume she'll be useful but it's bugging me that I can't work out her angle.
There are two potential ways I could see it progress in my mind, either she's always had a soft spot for the MC but couldn't show it because of the whole relationship between the family, or she is trying to use him for power but will start to fall in love with the MC as the story goes on.

Why do 99% of the MCs in these games almost always look like the biggest gym-pumping idiots and high school bullies? Is it so difficult to create normal-looking male MCs who don't look like they've got a fart stuck up their ass and like there's no more going on in their protein-filled heads than in a rock?
I don't see it as him looking or acting like a bully now or in the flashbacks as his younger self.
There's plenty of AVNs where the MC is a douche for sure, but this one doesn't seem to be the case unless you are always choosing that option. Sounds more like you have some kind of issue against people that go to the gym tbh, MC this feels pretty normal for a rich kid that did sports and kept healthy.
 

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I like the game, but one thing bothers me, and that's the updates. Why is there only one in-game day per update? That's not enough. The story isn't progressing at all, and nothing is happening. At this rate, the story won't continue until the end of next year. I finally want to get revenge on the MC's enemies, and he has a lot of enemies. They could really start doing that soon, but so far, nothing has happened. The game is already a year old, and we don't even have the papers from the tsundere sister who's friends with the enemy. The revenge arc is dragging on like chewing gum. (Translated with Google)
 

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Why do 99% of the MCs in these games almost always look like the biggest gym-pumping idiots and high school bullies? Is it so difficult to create normal-looking male MCs who don't look like they've got a fart stuck up their ass and like there's no more going on in their protein-filled heads than in a rock?
Your comment seems to be dripping with insecurity and unresolved issues. What classes as 'normal' is also incredibly subjective.
 

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I like the game, but one thing bothers me, and that's the updates. Why is there only one in-game day per update? That's not enough. The story isn't progressing at all, and nothing is happening. At this rate, the story won't continue until the end of next year. I finally want to get revenge on the MC's enemies, and he has a lot of enemies. They could really start doing that soon, but so far, nothing has happened. The game is already a year old, and we don't even have the papers from the tsundere sister who's friends with the enemy. The revenge arc is dragging on like chewing gum. (Translated with Google)
Because the dev puts out an update every month. If he waited longer it'd have more content, but then there is the wait. I'd rather have it like it is tbh. Also it's probably the way he is only focusing on one or two characters each update, he needs to spread some updates out to multiple characters/scenes to advance the story. A few updates, the whole update was a date
 
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Yea, i'm curious why Jessica is trying to help MC. I'm getting mixed signals, but perhaps it is as you said, she might be attracted to him and is also vying for power.

Looking at the description of the Smith women, it seems to be patriarchal on the surface but it is the women that actually controls the family and are deeply involved in the politics. Her grandmother is the matriarch and possibly the true leadership of the Smiths. The women are not trophy wives. So that might explain Jessica's angle, like you mentioned joining of both families, after all they aren't the only competition.

I'm more interested in Elizabeth though, the only outlier in the family and prove that the Smiths still have a shred of humanity left in them. Just wondering what's her disability? Mute?
Yeah... Also, maybe she is attracted to him since he is not a pussy(? When the mc arrived and Ashley told it to Jessica, she went immediately to tell it to her father. Then, after receiving a warning (the police set up), the mc defied her father. So... Maybe she liked that? She can also be playing the "I'm you friend and then I stab you in the back" card: first she helps him with Ashley, earn his trust and then destroy him from inside. Or... She wants to play both sides, so she can jump the sinking boat any time. I like more the scenarios where she is actually attracted to him and have plans about it.

About Elizabeth: I think she is blind... But can't remember if I think that because of her eyes or if something was implied at some point.
 

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playing the "I'm you friend and then I stab you in the back" card: first she helps him with Ashley, earn his trust and then destroy him from inside.
It's undoubtedly her goal, but unfortunately for her, I'm here with three goals:
-Fuck the Nakamuras
-Protect my family
-Destroy my enemies "I wish to be Providence itself, for I feel that the most beautiful, noblest, most sublime thing in the world is to reward and punish." I was particularly inspired and renamed the MC Edmond Dantès
 
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