The Pie Rat
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Oh boy... here I go again getting too emotionally invested in fiction (SOML).
So Victoria basically just attempted to get Audrey to rape the MC (Rape by deception).
I'd even argue she herself did just from having someone else in the room to watch(In the same way I'd call it rape to secretly record sex, admittedly rape may not be the "proper" term here but my sentiment stands).
And before anyone accuses me of overreacting, swap everyone's gender and tell me that's not fucked up. -_-
If we're supposed to hate Victoria then great job, if not... big oof on the writers part.
The only way I see to salvage her character (without rewrites) is to have her know what she was doing was wrong but was willing to deal with the consequences because she couldn't think of any other way to help Audrey and the MC, but there will NEED to be some pretty big consequences for her to work through.
So Victoria basically just attempted to get Audrey to rape the MC (Rape by deception).
I'd even argue she herself did just from having someone else in the room to watch(In the same way I'd call it rape to secretly record sex, admittedly rape may not be the "proper" term here but my sentiment stands).
And before anyone accuses me of overreacting, swap everyone's gender and tell me that's not fucked up. -_-
If we're supposed to hate Victoria then great job, if not... big oof on the writers part.
The only way I see to salvage her character (without rewrites) is to have her know what she was doing was wrong but was willing to deal with the consequences because she couldn't think of any other way to help Audrey and the MC, but there will NEED to be some pretty big consequences for her to work through.
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Everyone were consenting to have sex though. MC and his sister were deceived but this is not rape
+Milf would be perfectincest + harem + romance + virgin and no sandbox count me in.
2000+ renders for first release and they are not mediocre
hoping the story is also good. Good luck with the game dev
KingWeWuz
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Disagree point:
If I brought home a girl, put a bag and earphones on her, then brought a friend in to fuck her, it wouldn't count as rape? Because she consented to have sex with me, not my friend.
dolfe67
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I see you use the swap gender argument too. Genders are not equal before mother nature (and about sex), that's just how it is.
Though if she doesn't know, it's not rape
KingWeWuz
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I think most people just think it's ok because the girls look like supermodels. Since the genderswap argument doesn't work with you, what if it was a fat, hideous, and disgusting chick she did the ol' switcheroo with?I see you use the swap gender argument too. Genders are not equal before mother nature (and about sex), that's just how it is.
Though if she doesn't know, it's not rape
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At least you're consistent I suppose, but I think most people are going to view it as rape in general.Doesn't matter, had sex
Plus I wouldn't have seen her ugliness
I do wonder how the dev is going to handle the next episode. Is he going to use your narrative or mine? I mean, the scene changed so she didn't rape him that way I suppose.
I might be making too big a deal of it, but I would 100% not be ok with it... getting blindfolded takes so much trust and she broke it.
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That last sentence in itself is a very strong argument, even if you do differ on the other question whether it is or not, for a more romantic oriented game. Though it luckily has been improved quite a bit on the remade part compared to original.
Now for a fuck interest that does not matter, but even a FWB has the word friend in it and that needs some trust, so yeah Victoria has something to make up for in chapter 2 to regain that.At least some good intentions and not just lusting after pussy of Aubrey to be possibly valid as a LI. Now of course if she is no LI, but an antagonist that changes the whole picture if she is meant as someone you love to hate as player and hope MC never ends up with. Then again I thought we already had the mom for that, in a romance game we do need some likable ladies as well even if somewhat misunderstood for the drama.
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Damn I found another gem.
A solid beginning with an interesting plot, great models and from what I saw characters with nicely defined personalities.
It's obvious that there are some flaws that people already commented about but overall this is a solid game with lots of potential.
Good work on this initial release and good luck with what's to come.
Cheers lads
A solid beginning with an interesting plot, great models and from what I saw characters with nicely defined personalities.
It's obvious that there are some flaws that people already commented about but overall this is a solid game with lots of potential.
Good work on this initial release and good luck with what's to come.
Cheers lads
Antera
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I am considering supporting game, thats how good is for me. Great MC, Great LIs and some good Drama. also like game art style goes well with mood.. Only thing I know for sure is not going on Victoria root, too whorish for my taste... Also would love to know why there is such high tension Between MC & Mother and MC & oldest sister
This is by all means another kinetic novel masquerading as a choice based VN. There is barely any choices at all. Hard pass.
It's a scenario as old as time. What makes it what it is, just depends on what spectrum of the SJW you're on. Frankly, if anything at all happens with this MC and his attitude, deception is going to be the only way to get him involved.
Ok, art is really great, and as for the story, it's intriguing...
now with scenari... I played R1 first then the original - and i prefer - by far the original.
In the 1st story, MC is being used in a twisted way by Victoria, to help Audrey get over her lack of self confidence and virginity with the MC which is displayed as the guy she loves !
In the rewrite, Victoria wittingly fucks the MC right before Audrey's eyes, Audrey being in love with MC (or so we're led to understand), and knowing she would't throw her virginity away - also knowing it only was a question of minutes before she discovered everything. I believe that to be one of the worst case of betrayal ever. If the aim was for Victoria to be hated, well it worked.
Remains me of an apalling - and horrible horror movie - "A Serbian Film" in which the MC (a pornstar) fucks his kid (who also has a bag on his head) , seconds before knowing it, while his friend fucks the MC's wife right next to him - evrything being taped for a movie.
So yep - if we exclude sex (since it's a sex game) I'd still choose wicked twisted friendship over worst betrayal ever
now with scenari... I played R1 first then the original - and i prefer - by far the original.
In the 1st story, MC is being used in a twisted way by Victoria, to help Audrey get over her lack of self confidence and virginity with the MC which is displayed as the guy she loves !
In the rewrite, Victoria wittingly fucks the MC right before Audrey's eyes, Audrey being in love with MC (or so we're led to understand), and knowing she would't throw her virginity away - also knowing it only was a question of minutes before she discovered everything. I believe that to be one of the worst case of betrayal ever. If the aim was for Victoria to be hated, well it worked.
Remains me of an apalling - and horrible horror movie - "A Serbian Film" in which the MC (a pornstar) fucks his kid (who also has a bag on his head) , seconds before knowing it, while his friend fucks the MC's wife right next to him - evrything being taped for a movie.
So yep - if we exclude sex (since it's a sex game) I'd still choose wicked twisted friendship over worst betrayal ever
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Best game I've ever played!!!
What discourages me the most about some games is the fact that the characters are always very similar physically, but that's not the case in this game. In addition the girls are simply the most beautiful I have ever seen and their personalities are unique and very well placed.
The plot is magnetic and the amount of scenes makes the game experience extremely dynamic and enjoyable.
I fully understand that the plot has been rewritten and I confess that I prefer it the way it is currently. I believe that with the development of the story, and as traumatic as the scene involving sex between the MC and Vitória was, it would be too early to address incest with Audrey, mainly due to the fact that she is a virgin.
It would be very poor for the story that a girl as sweet and innocent as Audrey accepts to lose her virginity in such a forced way as in the original version. Also, considering that Audrey apparently has feelings for the MC, it would be logical to develop the relationship more gradually until both were sexually involved.
As for the villain characteristic attributed to Vitória, I believe they are useful for the development of the plot. And we can't forget that until then the MC still thinks he's having a sexual relationship with Vitória and nothing else, which contributes to Vitória's development in this villain role.
Finally, my most sincere thanks to Mimir's Lab for this masterpiece! I look forward to the next episode!
What discourages me the most about some games is the fact that the characters are always very similar physically, but that's not the case in this game. In addition the girls are simply the most beautiful I have ever seen and their personalities are unique and very well placed.
The plot is magnetic and the amount of scenes makes the game experience extremely dynamic and enjoyable.
I fully understand that the plot has been rewritten and I confess that I prefer it the way it is currently. I believe that with the development of the story, and as traumatic as the scene involving sex between the MC and Vitória was, it would be too early to address incest with Audrey, mainly due to the fact that she is a virgin.
It would be very poor for the story that a girl as sweet and innocent as Audrey accepts to lose her virginity in such a forced way as in the original version. Also, considering that Audrey apparently has feelings for the MC, it would be logical to develop the relationship more gradually until both were sexually involved.
As for the villain characteristic attributed to Vitória, I believe they are useful for the development of the plot. And we can't forget that until then the MC still thinks he's having a sexual relationship with Vitória and nothing else, which contributes to Vitória's development in this villain role.
Finally, my most sincere thanks to Mimir's Lab for this masterpiece! I look forward to the next episode!