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Damn,, These half baked, half assed VNs attract people with incest trope then drop the incest entirely with a rework.
I also fucking don't understand the industry. There are abundant of Step Incest porn out there but whenever step incest is in a VN, they come after it like a mad dog.
 
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Damn,, These half baked, half assed VNs attract people with incest trope then drop the incest entirely with a rework.
I also fucking don't understand the industry. There are abundant of Step Incest porn out there but whenever step incest is in a VN, they come after it like a mad dog.
I haven't played it yet just curious how does it drop it? Is it more than them using their names instead of mom or whatever cause that doesn't bother me at all. I mean I'm not playing this one for that but the original did have it when I played before the rework so more a curiosity.
 

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I haven't played it yet just curious how does it drop it? Is it more than them using their names instead of mom or whatever cause that doesn't bother me at all. I mean I'm not playing this one for that but the original did have it when I played before the rework so more a curiosity.
People are still assuming this "Season 1 version" is the rework which it isn't, the rework got dumped and it went back to be more "in line with the original version".
 
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I haven't played it yet just curious how does it drop it? Is it more than them using their names instead of mom or whatever cause that doesn't bother me at all. I mean I'm not playing this one for that but the original did have it when I played before the rework so more a curiosity.
I haven't touched the final version. I mainly played before the rework and liked it, given very good artwork and animation. I looked into the rework 0.9 and it was a mess, dropped the incest(I mean made it harder) and also a lot of loose plots.
I don't have time to check this one now as I have to study this entire month. Probably in the 4th week of September.
I'm sure by then this doubt around whether an incest rework is needed or not will be solved.
If someone comes up and just tweak first few minutes of the gameplay and dialogue it will be a fine incest in modern era. Definitely can't compete against the old ones for obvious reasons.
SN: Just remembered, I actually played the old ones even when rework was available and trying it(0.9) first and didn't like it.
 

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After the jewelry shop event with dad right at the start there is following dialog :

Richard "I’ve seen that look before. You’ve got questions, don’t you?"
MC "It’s just... That wasn’t what I expected tonight."
Richard "You handled yourself well. Better than most would in your position."
MC "I didn’t do anything."
Richard "Exactly."
Richard "You’ve seen how things work. You’ve tasted a glimpse of the {b}contract{/b}."
MC "And if I want out?"
Richard "Then forget tonight ever happened."
Richard "There’s more waiting for you. More than you can imagine."
Richard "Just keep your mouth shut... and your eyes open."

This seems to be kind of a teaser of what is to follow ... but does this talk about the "contract" make sense? After the car crash mc is completely clueless. No Amnesia mentioned.
 
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I don't know if the game is like that, but the 2 scenes of Becky when they have sex are not animated, in the first scene only the blowjob is animated and in the second when they record themselves with a camera and Diane sees them and masturbates it is animated, but the sex scene with Becky is not, I don't know why the dev did not animate the sex scenes with Becky, in neither of the 2 scenes when he penetrates her there is not even one animation, what a disappointment
 
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Great news, I just wish it had pregnancy.
This, as several earlier post have also mentioned, pregnancy as another kink, almost like the ultimate kink, simply because of the whole creampie thing having consequence. Despite comments on contraceptives, this kink is a powerful one that even knowing its possible in a AVN drives appeal. Hopefully this is something that the dev will introduce (optional obviously)
 
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Game's not bad, there's no bugs, no bullshit elements, unnecessary UI, models are good looking, animations are meh.

But it having female domination tag is a mistake.
There is one femdom scene in the whole game, but it's just maledom RP of femdom, in the end of the least femdom path for some reason. Everything else ends up in maledom, which is dick move considering the training scene bait.
 

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Game's not bad, there's no bugs, no bullshit elements, unnecessary UI, models are good looking, animations are meh.

But it having female domination tag is a mistake.
There is one femdom scene in the whole game, but it's just maledom RP of femdom, in the end of the least femdom path for some reason. Everything else ends up in maledom, which is dick move considering the training scene bait.
There are "tags" and "Genre" in the OP.
If a game has one or more femdom scenes, it gets the femdom tag.
If a game is focussing on femdom, it is usually mentioned under "Genre".

For this game :

Genre:
3DCG, Male protagonist, Animated, Sex toys, Voyeurism, Big ass, MILF, Exhibitionism, Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Creampie, Big tits

So no femdom focus.

Please note that both tags and Genre can change if dev changes focus of the game over time.
I hope this explanation helps.
 
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f96zonetrooper

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The "relationships" may need some more polishing?

In chapter 1 mc and Diana talk :

D "My father and my first husband died the same year..."
D "After that for 20 years I held down this house all alone."
D "And now… I'm alone again."

mc "You're not alone. You’ve got two amazing housemates."

This scene is outside the relationship customization.
One would expect rather "daughters" than "housemates" although "housemates" is not wrong.
 

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But it having female domination tag is a mistake
There is one femdom scene in the whole game, but it's just maledom RP of femdom, in the end of the least femdom path for some reason.
How the fuck can you say the femdom tag is mistakenly placed there, implying there's no femdom in the game, and then continue with "there's just one femdom" scene ??o_O:WaitWhat:

If by that you mean to say there's no actual femdom scenes, as in the MC becoming a complete spinless beta bitch at the feet of his 'mistress' probably getting pegged too or whatever the appeal of this nonsensical kink is supposed to be, then yes, there ain't any... thank you Dotty for that, but that one scene with Diane, if I'm not mistaken, can still be called femdom, few technicalities aside. The same goes for its maledom counterpart... just cuz the MC doesn't treat Diane or Christina like shit, it doesn't mean the scenes with them are not (light) maledom scenes.

What you most likely looked for when you saw the tag is hardcore, not light, femdom, and it's not the dev's problem you didn't find it. If you paid attention to the story, you'd know that Diane is a sub in bed and sexually attracted to the MC, even more so after she saw what he's packing... there's an option to keep things politely with her OR make the MC answer Diane in an abrasive or ballsy way when she confronts him about going to the club with Casandra ignoring everything she told him about her also making the same Diane excited about this side of him he never showed her. So, Diane and the MC doing a complete 180 in roles for the sake of some fap material wouldn't make any sense bcz it contradicts the way their characters were written.

There's nothing misleading about that, considering it's specifically stated and shown in the story. A simple question would've spared you a headache and saved you one or two hours of playtime, if you didn't like this important lil detail and consider it that much of a minus to the overall quality of the game.

Everything else ends up in maledom, which is dick move considering the training scene bait.
No, it's called "consistency", as in the characters being consistent in the way they act and talk. And that training scene with Nicole was just that, training and nothing more... a 'hands on' approach is needed so the trainer can get his point across better.
This isn't an actual problem, it's just you who read too much into it.

If a woman like Nicole wants to take self-defense lessons cuz of reasons, and her male personal trainer lets her practice a few submission moves on him, it don't mean he'll let her femdom his ass after they done practicing, ffs... it just means he teaches her that "hands on" practical approach too after explaining the theoretical part to her.

Tbh, I'd be more inclined to suspect she'd let him do some doming to her than the opposite, if she was attracted to the guy and he played his cards right, but that's details lol.
 
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How consistent is mc's backstory?

One one side we have Diane, Nicole and Becky who lived with Richard, mc's dad, for a significant time.
On the other side mc - at least recently - lived with his dad.

Nicole and Becky casually know mc from Xmas dinner although they spent time together on movie nights.
Diane calls mc "sweetheart".
Nicole is thankfull that mc is "back home".
MC feels that he is re-connecting with the girls, so they were connected before until they were separated.
MC has a friend Caleb and an ex-girlfriend Christina in the same area where Diane lives.
MC "knows" Becky's friend Lara and where she lives from "years ago".
Lara calls mc's dad by first name "Richard" indicating that she knew him quite well, probably from the time when Richard was living with Diane and the girls.
MC is working on a game project but also looking forward to continue his studies after this summer break.
(MC just finished first year at Sunshine State University.)
MC staying with Diane and the girls seems limited to this summer?
MC has the money to rent his own apartment although it is not used after the accident.
MC's dad died in the car accident but there are no follow up events like funeral, heritage, paperwork ...
MC has a headache likely caused by a concussion from the car accident but does heavy workout, martial arts, alcohol ...

Images are also inconsistent in some scenes, eg mc decides to hide the small tatoo and then when talking to Becky next morning in some images the black wristband is there and in others it isn't.
 
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Game's not bad, there's no bugs, no bullshit elements, unnecessary UI, models are good looking, animations are meh.

But it having female domination tag is a mistake.
There is one femdom scene in the whole game, but it's just maledom RP of femdom, in the end of the least femdom path for some reason. Everything else ends up in maledom, which is dick move considering the training scene bait.
I can understand your frustration, they add one miserable scene to add a tag just to attract fans of said tags. A pet peeve of mine is anal. How many games I played with anal tag and at the end there's like 15 vaginal sex scenes and one anal. It sucks. I'm not saying the tag shouldn't be there, but devs should include more scenes.

I wish more devs would gives us an option, "do you want anal or vaginal for this scene?"

The game that gave us an option 90% of the time was My Pleasure.
 
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Game don't even start.

"I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/gui.rpy", line 11, in script
init python:
File "game/gui.rpy", line 11, in script
init python:
File "game/gui.rpy", line 12, in <module>
gui.init(1920, 1080)
File "renpy/common/00gui.rpy", line 58, in init
layout.defaults()
File "renpy/common/00layout.rpy", line 144, in defaults
v()
File "renpy/common/00layout.rpy", line 339, in classic_joystick_preferences
renpy.load_module('_layout/classic_joystick_preferences')
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'lastfn' referenced before assignment
 
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Can someone explain why there’s so much talk about relationships? Everything I’ve read so far feels kind of weird, and there doesn’t seem to be any real connection with the MC. Plus, the relationship options don’t seem to actually change anything.

And i remember in the dev’s other game he mentioned he would remove the sandbox. So is the sandbox system really gone, or are there still some leftovers?
 

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So is the sandbox system really gone, or are there still some leftovers?
AfaIk :
It never had a sandbox system, just an experimental free roam system in v0.9 where mc several times had to walk from a point A to a point B through the house to continue the VN. The whole "sandbox" tag for v0.9 was a misunderstanding.
So far this version of the game feels more like v0.8 with extras.
 
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It never had a sandbox system, just an experimental free roam system in v0.9 where mc had to walk from a point A to a point B through the house to continue the VN.
This version of the game feels more like v0.8 with extras.
Thanks for the answer, glad no sandbox.
Now only want to know about relationships.
 

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Can someone explain why there’s so much talk about relationships? Everything I’ve read so far feels kind of weird, and there doesn’t seem to be any real connection with the MC. Plus, the relationship options don’t seem to actually change anything.

And i remember in the dev’s other game he mentioned he would remove the sandbox. So is the sandbox system really gone, or are there still some leftovers?
I have not played this game in ages, but when I played back then, I'm pretty sure the mc was related to the girls. From what I gather in the comments, the dev made a scummy move and removed the incest.

EDIT: I just found a version 0.045 from August of 2023, the last version I played. Check their default relation to the mc.

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I have not played this game in ages, but when I played early on, I'm pretty sure the mc was related to the girls. From what I gather in the comments, the dev made a scummy move and removed the incest.

EDIT: I just found a version 0.045 from August of 2023, the last version I played.
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Hey thanks for the answer, yes i played 0.8 after adding sandbox i stopped playing. Now the other member said it's just a experimental, So i also don't know what actually happened.
Yes before everything works well no complaint or anything about the game after adding sandbox and removing incest everything went to south.
Now here some talk going, there is no incest(not directly) just a relation in option but even we changed this is nothing to do with the mc, all is roommates, housemate etc..
 
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