Unreal Engine Carnal Instinct [2024-12-22] [Team Carnal Instinct]
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swapping engines is tough.
It's just useless unless you start a completely new project.
Even minor upgrade like switching from UE 4.26 to UE 4.27 can break core functions in a game.
99% of the time if a game was started on a specific engine version, it stays there.
It's not like opening a .blend file from blender 3.5 in blender 4.2 and everything just magically works + you have new features.
Switching from UE4 to UE5 requires porting EVERYTHING to the new version and recompiling and fixing every bit of code that stopped working.
I don't even want to mention the sheer performance issues of UE5, nanite was so overhyped that it overshadowed it's disadvantages. A simple handtuned LOD with quads performs 200% better than a generated nanite mesh.
So many things just eat performance to achieve a "better render quiality" as quickly as possible.
What ue5 does is magdonald's-ing good graphics so every beginner can just use it.
Meanwhile capable professionals manage to achieve even better results on older engines.
Best example is Mortal Kombat 11 which was made on UNREAL ENGINE 3 ffs.
Yes it might be modified but still, Netherrealm studios used ue3 to make MK9 and MKX, they literally changed to ue4 just recently to make the latest MK1.
And tbh, MK11 sometimes looks even better than MK1.
So please guys, just remember, it's not the engine that's responsible for good graphics, it's the dev.
It's just useless unless you start a completely new project.
Even minor upgrade like switching from UE 4.26 to UE 4.27 can break core functions in a game.
99% of the time if a game was started on a specific engine version, it stays there.
It's not like opening a .blend file from blender 3.5 in blender 4.2 and everything just magically works + you have new features.
Switching from UE4 to UE5 requires porting EVERYTHING to the new version and recompiling and fixing every bit of code that stopped working.
I don't even want to mention the sheer performance issues of UE5, nanite was so overhyped that it overshadowed it's disadvantages. A simple handtuned LOD with quads performs 200% better than a generated nanite mesh.
So many things just eat performance to achieve a "better render quiality" as quickly as possible.
What ue5 does is magdonald's-ing good graphics so every beginner can just use it.
Meanwhile capable professionals manage to achieve even better results on older engines.
Best example is Mortal Kombat 11 which was made on UNREAL ENGINE 3 ffs.
Yes it might be modified but still, Netherrealm studios used ue3 to make MK9 and MKX, they literally changed to ue4 just recently to make the latest MK1.
And tbh, MK11 sometimes looks even better than MK1.
So please guys, just remember, it's not the engine that's responsible for good graphics, it's the dev.
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I think it's a bit silly how some of you are viewing this game. It has been a while since I had last played it but I have still been glancing through new updates from time to time. What it was/is meant to be is a GAME with some porn/adult aspects thrown in and not just porn with some game aspects breaking that up.
For those basing the entire version solely on how many characters/things you can fuck is not how this should be viewed. You are playing a game with story elements to it that also happens to have some porn and adult scenes added around. It's like playing Skyrim with a few porn mods installed and complaining why there isn't enough porn in what you think should be entirely a porn game.
I simply view this game as I would when I mod Skyrim or another game to have porn aspects to it. I know it's there and I can seek them out when wanted... but there's also interesting gameplay and story that I like to interact with as well. The engine/build difference have been clearly stated before in that UE4 was more of a test area/later game area in the story. UE5 is supposed to be the actual beginning of that story and has become the only build being developed due to UE4 support being dropped. This means that any problems that might arise in UE4 will be solely left to the devs of this game to fix and figure out, while UE5 has resources they can use to help solve any of those problems that arise.
Anyway... there's my input on it. Feel free to go back to bickering amongst yourselves now. XD
For those basing the entire version solely on how many characters/things you can fuck is not how this should be viewed. You are playing a game with story elements to it that also happens to have some porn and adult scenes added around. It's like playing Skyrim with a few porn mods installed and complaining why there isn't enough porn in what you think should be entirely a porn game.
I simply view this game as I would when I mod Skyrim or another game to have porn aspects to it. I know it's there and I can seek them out when wanted... but there's also interesting gameplay and story that I like to interact with as well. The engine/build difference have been clearly stated before in that UE4 was more of a test area/later game area in the story. UE5 is supposed to be the actual beginning of that story and has become the only build being developed due to UE4 support being dropped. This means that any problems that might arise in UE4 will be solely left to the devs of this game to fix and figure out, while UE5 has resources they can use to help solve any of those problems that arise.
Anyway... there's my input on it. Feel free to go back to bickering amongst yourselves now. XD
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Whelp, the devs disagree with you, hence my statement in the first place, so I'm just going to pass along a confused shrug and leave it at that.
Some of you act like this game is your own mother and you're oath-sworn to defending it and the devs. All I did was point out that the devs need to add way more content to the UE5 version and get it to way more parity with UE4 version before people will do more than briefly check out new stuff whenever it trickles in like twice a damn year.
This is not rocket science, nor an illogical concept, nor a very complex one. And it's supported by the devs themselves, including their constant complaining about it.
Calm. Down. I promise this is nowhere near as import as some of you think it is. Yeesh. I'm done, I get too irritated talking pointlessly to fanatical walls and it's probably best to leave... whatever the heck this is supposed to be... before that other guy comes back with another rock of a response. To think such a stupidly simple statement would lead to this.
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They already have roughly the same amount of content (assuming you mean quests and sex scenes rather than equipment and "equipment"), the problem is that the world for UE5 is much, much bigger than the world for UE4 so it makes the content look like what Mickey did to this bread:
Due to the difference in scale, UE5 is going to need to have a lot more content than UE4 has in order to not feel empty. And a lot more QA, which is a thing that they've always had issues with. I swear, for every quest they implement there's one right way to complete it and two dozen ways to break it.
Four times a year. I ignored it the first time you did this, but they're on a quarterly update schedule. That was the originally advertised update schedule for Steam, and they've been back on that schedule since last June. (In case you don't want to count, that means we got content updates last June, last October, and last December, for a total of three in the last seven months. I'm not going to count the November update because that whole thing was just an early push of some of the content they were working on for the winter update)
It's the same schedule they've been holding for Steam since the game first became available there back in 2021. There were definitely issues tied to holding schedule and UE5's launch. I won't pretend late 2023/early 2024 didn't happen. They pushed the final UE4 build in June, then shared the first UE5 build in July, and then we got nothing more until December and then again last June. Supposedly they were plagued by a rather impressive array of illnesses and technical failures. I'm more inclined to believe them on that now that they've stopped reporting them and returned to providing content as promised than I was when it happened three times in a row like it did.
In case you were curious, here are the months that Steam has received content updates, per the news feed:
- March 2021: Game became available for purchase
- June 2021
- July 2021 (Small content update with some cosmetics, out of cycle)
- October 2021
- December 2021
- February 2022 (Early update, out of cycle)
- June 2022
- September 2022 (Late update, out of cycle)
- December 2022
- March 2023
- June 2023 (Final UE4 build)
- July 2023 (First UE5 build, the devs switch to six month timeframe here)
- December 2023
- June 2024 (The devs switched back to a three-month timeframe here)
- October 2024
- November 2024 (Early update, out of cycle)
- December 2024 (In cycle, part of the prior update)
No they don't. They can make everyone play UE5 by making it opt out, or just not provide UE4 at all. They aren't, so they don't.
Indeed.
That is just they telling people that they are still alive. Again, it is not a complaint as they can make everyone play UE5 anytime they want. It is only a complaint when they have no power over it.
Hey i downloaded the UE4 and when I open the game it told me that it wasnt able to recognize as a patreon... (dude dont tell me i wasted my time downloading)
It's a trap. Uncracked, dude, uncracked..
You should have download the second one.I download the one that said new uncrackedIt's a trap. Uncracked, dude, uncracked..
Yeah, it's uncracked. No crack = no playing without credentials. You need the cracked one.
you know, I would've at least tried to stay in the UE5 version if it wasn't for that "heavy performance drop when loading a save" bug.
I actually still kinda like that version, even with the lesser content available
I actually still kinda like that version, even with the lesser content available
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Currently, the orb (Watchful Eye) is only necessary to enter the Temple of Jedet.
Nergaal's Tomb does not require anything like that.
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switching to UE5 is either an incredibly mind-numbingly poor project management decision, a crap way to pretend they're working (in the case that the port went fine but they are just wasting time - I doubt this), or just a way to do meaningless work instead of progressing the game because being creative is harder than just porting old features and content
I don't remember that in the latest UE5 build. But you can ask one void dragoon to fuck u with magic
If only Launcher would work under Wine/Proton...