ZimonColdres

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Explain to me why it takes you 36 clicks to find an event, how is that possible? Why do you explore the whole house for an event that is described the exact location in the cards, write here why you do not like the navigation, and discuss it among yourselves, talk about CoR instead of leaving the thread dead.
Why you don't like the new choice menus, explain to others why they don't work.
I released the 0.50 and no one said yes I like the additions, no I don't like them.

If a card says:
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wandering in the house, attracted to your room
No time to follow, it's only two clicks, why explore the whole house to find the event?

The content, the story, I had said that I would momentarily focus on the girls with less content like Sheila, Hell, Tsu, and that I would do separate builds with main and secondary content. Why don't people read the announs? You would get a better understanding of what's happening.
If I started doing one event per week like another game, would you guys be okay with that? The 0.49 had 8, 4 of which were Sheila's, if that's not story I don't understand where the problem is.
 

molitar

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Explain to me why it takes you 36 clicks to find an event, how is that possible? Why do you explore the whole house for an event that is described the exact location in the cards, write here why you do not like the navigation, and discuss it among yourselves, talk about CoR instead of leaving the thread dead.
Why you don't like the new choice menus, explain to others why they don't work.
I released the 0.50 and no one said yes I like the additions, no I don't like them.

If a card says:
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wandering in the house, attracted to your room
No time to follow, it's only two clicks, why explore the whole house to find the event?

The content, the story, I had said that I would momentarily focus on the girls with less content like Sheila, Hell, Tsu, and that I would do separate builds with main and secondary content. Why don't people read the announs? You would get a better understanding of what's happening.
If I started doing one event per week like another game, would you guys be okay with that? The 0.49 had 8, 4 of which were Sheila's, if that's not story I don't understand where the problem is.
I could never rely on the cards and had to always look at change log after checking around manually.. I rather find the events myself first than if I can't find them go to the change log. I can prove it to I have the save from 0.49 and when I load it every single girl says No Event. Not a single of the new events show in the Girls cards.

Headpat for Heramael, Cleos, and Sheila, and they are animated.
New lewd: Asmedia's Footjob
New interactions in the Kitchen, MC's Bedroom, and Sheila ed Asmedia's room

The girls are now more alive than ever, well not all of them, but some like Sheila and Asmedia wander around the house. You might find Asmedia in the kitchen or Sheila in your room.

So why would I not want to wander the house to see if I find girls in the various rooms? Nothing indicates you will not but indicate they will wander around the house. So house navigation NEEDS to be much easier and not so many stupid clicks to navigate...
 

QQP_Purple

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Yea, it is a tad awkward right now. Another thing that's a tad awkward is the fact that if you have an event somewhere several screens away the game some times returns you to your bedroom. So like for example in dusk city if I want to do two events in a row I might have to go open the menu, leave the house, click the teleporter, teleport, do the event and than repeat it all over again. Only some times though.
 

molitar

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Yea, it is a tad awkward right now. Another thing that's a tad awkward is the fact that if you have an event somewhere several screens away the game some times returns you to your bedroom. So like for example in dusk city if I want to do two events in a row I might have to go open the menu, leave the house, click the teleporter, teleport, do the event and than repeat it all over again. Only some times though.
Yeah also like the handler room.. when you exit the girls room you should be back in the handler room. Navigation is a damn nightmare right now in this game.
 

ZimonColdres

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Yea, it is a tad awkward right now. Another thing that's a tad awkward is the fact that if you have an event somewhere several screens away the game some times returns you to your bedroom. So like for example in dusk city if I want to do two events in a row I might have to go open the menu, leave the house, click the teleporter, teleport, do the event and than repeat it all over again. Only some times though.
Yeah also like the handler room.. when you exit the girls room you should be back in the handler room. Navigation is a damn nightmare right now in this game.
So, these are changes I've made now given the feedback I've just received, if I received a lot more per release, how many things would be improvable.
Anyway:
Whenever an event outside the house ends, you are no longer teleported to the bedroom, but you stay in that location.
From the girls, now you go directly to the handling room
Now the new icons of the handling room:

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Now the girls will appear on the map with an event marker, to know exactly where they are, also their cards have been highlighted keywords, please use them:

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QQP_Purple

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So, these are changes I've made now given the feedback I've just received, if I received a lot more per release, how many things would be improvable.
Anyway:
Whenever an event outside the house ends, you are no longer teleported to the bedroom, but you stay in that location.
From the girls, now you go directly to the handling room
Now the new icons of the handling room:

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Now the girls will appear on the map with an event marker, to know exactly where they are, also their cards have been highlighted keywords, please use them:

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Now that is awesome. Especially using their photos as icons instead of their names. Its going to make navigation a lot easier.
 

mystery80y

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Does anyone know what is Cleos soundtrack's name. It really hit me off and I've been searching for the sources for days
 

QQP_Purple

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Does anyone know what is Cleos soundtrack's name. It really hit me off and I've been searching for the sources for days
Same here. Only my interest is on the entire soundtrack. Like I'd love to know where it all came from as this game easily has the best soundtrack on this site.
 

girdeyordo

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Explain to me why it takes you 36 clicks to find an event, how is that possible? Why do you explore the whole house for an event that is described the exact location in the cards, write here why you do not like the navigation, and discuss it among yourselves, talk about CoR instead of leaving the thread dead.
Why you don't like the new choice menus, explain to others why they don't work.
I released the 0.50 and no one said yes I like the additions, no I don't like them.

If a card says:
View attachment 1206896
wandering in the house, attracted to your room
No time to follow, it's only two clicks, why explore the whole house to find the event?

The content, the story, I had said that I would momentarily focus on the girls with less content like Sheila, Hell, Tsu, and that I would do separate builds with main and secondary content. Why don't people read the announs? You would get a better understanding of what's happening.
If I started doing one event per week like another game, would you guys be okay with that? The 0.49 had 8, 4 of which were Sheila's, if that's not story I don't understand where the problem is.
Because some people are crazy nutters who don't use guides :WeSmart: This is usually why sandboxes get a bad rep as when it doubt lick everything, and I mean everything

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There are those that want the freedom to explore, those that want you to hold their hand, and then the one that pissed on the carpet. Welcome to the frat house :p Don't be surprised if they tried to get the fish in your fish tank drunk.

People rarely know what they want but will complain about things they don't want.

Congrats on 2,000 likes by the way.

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jadih96207

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Why don't people read the announs?
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Welcome to tech support, were you get paid for telling people to check the power and even more when you have to go to their place and plug it in for them :KEK:

If I started doing one event per week like another game, would you guys be okay with that?
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I like how these updates tend to have meat on them :D Don't really want to wait years for the less popular girls to get attention like a short stack in another game that gave one blowjob then refused to do it ever again or get a different girl every week to the point that any point of story progression has been lost.
 
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Well, at the moment the only problem is growth, and this forum is not working either.
How about some unpopular opinions?
Consider Runey, developer of Harem Hotel.
They show off how many patrons they have but not how much money they are bringing in, why? Because if people see you make $10k they are less likely to see you as a little indie but if you only have 5 thousand subscribers well you're still not as big as a million subscribers :WeSmart:
Keep in mind they also don't do weekly updates but when people have the same thing every week it makes you look for something else to shake up the monotony but if you get a rare treat then you take time out of your day to enjoy the delicacy
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Do fans really like this? Nah, of course not you silly moo however tell them they can have something and they are happy but tell them they can't have something and then they want it even more out of spite :WaitWhat: The horrendously neglected Waifu Academy by Irphaeus is a good example as it's been almost a year and the fans have their barbecue ready to roast him but when an update does come out they will be all over it like hyenas
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(They might not say nice things about it but they will be talking about it :devilish:)

Look at the black arts of AAA gaming, all these casino addictions the hack the brain into wanting more. Now, do you have to be evil? Perhaps, some more engaging minigames that give you rewards like outfits, collectables, or money. Outfits would be hard do to the nature of the game but what about collectables? Maeve plushy for the room? being a doll perhaps she could get different outfits, even have Maeve comment on her 'mini me'. Decorating the player's room would make it feel more personal and let's people show off some things they found. Collectors rejoice though expect the Common Rabble to bitch up a storm.
Are these beloved mechanics? Of course not but AAA has been cashing big checks by having them that they literally try to tell law enforcement these are suitable for children.

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While it's nice to be a people pleaser sometimes the unpleasant things get more attention.
Like that time Capcom littered a city with as a promotional stunt.
 

QQP_Purple

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Well, at the moment the only problem is growth, and this forum is not working either.
Also because things haven't been going well lately, like the 0.50 which strangely hasn't been published anywhere on the forum.
Honestly your work is great so what you really need is more hype and publicity.

As for what the guy above said I have to say that I disagree. Fundamentally people care most about two things. The quality of your content and the hype you can generate. Hype is what gets them to come to you and quality is what gets them to stay.

HH works so well because the quality of the story and characters is superb, easily the best I have ever seen in any game at all anywhere. It just has a level of storytelling that in its own right sets it above everything. So its god tier and people respect that.

Your game is not quite there so far but it's very good. So you need to generate hype somehow to attract more people. Sadly I can't tell you how as I am not exactly a super extrovert. I mean, ordinarily I'd say just shout to the heavens and all social media for people to share your game. But I am not sure how much of that you can do given its sexual content.

As for how AAA games work that's just pure hype. Their marketing departments are massive and have budgets that dwarf development budgets. So they can just throw money at everything until they get people to buy their product out of sheer hype. You can't really match that ever and shouldn't try.

Also you really shouldn't try and look up to projects that are semi dead and only survive based on the sunk cost fallacy. Other than being despicable that sort of thing only works if it happens AFTER the scum milking it has established a big fan base before he started the milking. Same as AAA games.
 
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Fauxkiss

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Not sure if I'm just lost or something, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the little hell puppy I see people talking about. Also when I try to purchase anything that involves coins I get this error screen and I'm not sure how to fix it. Honestly I started playing this game a couple days ago and I'm hooked, you've clearly put a lot of work into it, and it shows. Any help on how to find hell doggo or start the chain of events would be appreciated :D
 
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Not sure if I'm just lost or something, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the little hell puppy I see people talking about. Also when I try to purchase anything that involves coins I get this error screen and I'm not sure how to fix it. Honestly I started playing this game a couple days ago and I'm hooked, you've clearly put a lot of work into it, and it shows. Any help on how to find hell doggo or start the chain of events would be appreciated :D
Zimon let's see...
I don't see any default set up for hidden_money so just setting that up to 0.
Also the 7.4.5 series had a few bugfixes and is now 7.4.5.1646, last updated on May 24, 2021.


Notable things were
May 22
The third Ren'Py 7.4.5 prerelease is up, with an eye towards getting the final release out the door sooner rather than later.

May 19
Running through a late-ish night prerelease process. A big rewrite of how the Android presplash screen works since the last prerelease, but it should get rid of issues on Android startup.
 
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Fauxkiss

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Zimon let's see...
I don't see any default set up for hidden_money so just setting that up to 0.
Also the 7.4.5 series had a few bugfixes and is now 7.4.5.1630, last updated on May 22, 2021


Notable things were
May 22
The third Ren'Py 7.4.5 prerelease is up, with an eye towards getting the final release out the door sooner rather than later.

May 19
Running through a late-ish night prerelease process. A big rewrite of how the Android presplash screen works since the last prerelease, but it should get rid of issues on Android startup.

Unfortunately setting the default to zero appears to make it so I can't buy things as the static value doesn't change when I work in dusk city. Wondering if this is just a variable issue or not, I did however update my renpy thanks for giving me the heads up on that :)
 
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Unfortunately setting the default to zero appears to make it so I can't buy things as the static value doesn't change when I work in dusk city. Wondering if this is just a variable issue or not, I did however update my renpy thanks for giving me the heads up on that :)
Default should set it if undefined... Could you upload your save?
 
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