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felicemastronzo

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But it literally says right there that they will start with Jaye's sample since she already has a record in their system:
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Then the scene continues with:
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So it is implied that the guy used the wrong sample in his hurry. Obviously like I told felice, they can't outright say if the samples got mixed or not due to Patreon reasons, so it's pretty much to the player's interpretation. But the way I see it - the guy did indeed use the wrong sample, judging by the female lap tech's reaction.



I swear sometimes you just argue just to argue. If they used the wrong sample for her test and the result is negative and like Jaye told MC the results came back negative, it would be misinformation anyway. Besides you're getting butthurt for no reason, as if Jaye is the only reason for me to talk about the game. But anyway, suit yourself. :rolleyes:
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
yet it is not complicated: MAYBE they used the wrong sample, if they both start with C there is exactly the same opportunity for it to be right or wrong.

but assuming it's the wrong one doesn't mean the test would have resulted in a different outcome. and considering the pateron issue we'll probably never know


don't go full Darkwen.... :cry:
 

Lostanddamned

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:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
yet it is not complicated: MAYBE they used the wrong sample, if they both start with C there is exactly the same opportunity for it to be right or wrong.

but assuming it's the wrong one doesn't mean the test would have resulted in a different outcome. and considering the pateron issue we'll probably never know


don't go full Darkwen.... :cry:
So you're just saying the same thing I did? I miss when my homie would contribute in discussions in a meaningful way and not saying stuff just to say it. :cry:
 

felicemastronzo

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Okay, just thinking out loud, even if they used the wrong sample, it doesnt mean Jaye's sample would have tested positive. Obviously Jaye is Schrodinger's cat, not sure how anyone can miss it.
And also no one knows about this possible error, no one has any reason to retest. Both tests went well, everyone is happy.
 

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Just do it..
its amazing go to patreon and give them some cash even..
I bought this on steam after I played the first two chapters and I am VERY HAPPY
 
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LL.Noble

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I reached the end of chapter 8. I, probably, like many others, tried to be the best guy (maximum trust and love points) for both Jay and Mallory, feeding them both a fairy tale about great love. As a result, I got Game Over in Chapter 7. This is a slap in the face to the player! I had to study the walkthrough guide more carefully and replay about 1.5 chapters. There seemed to be a discussion about a cheat mod that regulates glasses and something else. Where can I get it?
 
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Pushing someone who is using a VR headset is a dick move. Pushing someone who just got out of surgery is much worse. Jaye manages to do both in one shove because she's still the same spoiled little brat she's always been. There was a brief moment where it looked like the main character would finally tell her to grow up and act her age, but no. She pouts a bit and he instantly switches from telling her that what she did was fucked up, to rewarding her bad behaviour by giving her exactly what she wants.

In stark contrast to Jaye's selfishness, we see Bianca put the feelings of others ahead of her own, even if she hasn't met them yet or knows if they exist at all. Before you can get intimate with her, you must first assure her that you aren't going to be cheating on anyone by doing so. I wanted to tell her just that, but the game claimed that would be lying.

Apparently it still counted Mallory as an exclusive relationship, which seems unfair considering how she unilaterally decided to involve Amanda in our sex life. I would think that what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and us helping Bianca get her groove back would be similar to Mallory bringing Amanda in on the action. But the game disagrees.

Creating a new route for a guilt-free time with Bianca was no trouble at all thanks to the complete lack of minigames, free roaming sections, or any such time wasting nonsense that so many other games have. This route seems to be the best of them because everyone gets what they deserve. Bianca gets her pool boy fantasy, Mallory can do whatever she wants with Amanda, and Jaye can go fuck herself.

In playing through this latest route, I did something I hadn't done before. I sent Fiona the picture she wanted. She ends up sending us a custom made dildo in the mail, and the package was discovered by Jaye and Bianca. I briefly thought that we would be able to give it to Bianca, but it gets stolen by Jaye instead. Which is not surprising, considering how she had previously stolen our journals. So this is yet another example of how Jaye hasn't grown as a person at all.

There is a scene where Jaye demands the main character go on a walk with her, and then uses it to try to guilt trip him into staying a part of her life. She says "You need to understand that I can't do this without you." If she truly loved him, she would be saying something about how he needs to start putting himself first sometimes. But that's not Jaye, as everything is about her. She then says "I'm angry at myself that I had to come so close to losing you to let go of my anger..." and when he tries to respond, she angrily snaps at him saying "Let me have this!" without a hint of self-awareness. This whole conversation began with Jaye telling him to "Just shut up and walk with me." She's still bossing him around, and he's still enabling her. Same as it ever was.

I understand that people who liked Jaye right from the start wouldn't want her to change, but it's odd that the rest of us get a big load of nothing to work with here. We can't confront her, and we can't get rid of her. We're just stuck with her being an overbearing harpy who occasionally steals our intimate items to masturbate with because she's a creepy stalker. I would hope that the final chapter would allow us to distance ourselves from her a bit, but I've been hoping for that the whole game. I'd be foolish to think that could happen now.

At this point, I'm just praying we'll get a chance to make an honest woman out of Bianca.
 

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I reached the end of chapter 8. I, probably, like many others, tried to be the best guy (maximum trust and love points) for both Jay and Mallory, feeding them both a fairy tale about great love. As a result, I got Game Over in Chapter 7. This is a slap in the face to the player! I had to study the walkthrough guide more carefully and replay about 1.5 chapters. There seemed to be a discussion about a cheat mod that regulates glasses and something else. Where can I get it?
Seriously, you think two-timing both leading ladies competing for your love with "a fairy tale about great love" is a best guy behavior? :FacePalm:
 

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I reached the end of chapter 8. I, probably, like many others, tried to be the best guy (maximum trust and love points) for both Jay and Mallory, feeding them both a fairy tale about great love. As a result, I got Game Over in Chapter 7. This is a slap in the face to the player! I had to study the walkthrough guide more carefully and replay about 1.5 chapters. There seemed to be a discussion about a cheat mod that regulates glasses and something else. Where can I get it?
Made the classic mistake you commited to them both thats why it was game over. You dont commit give them the I want to see where this will go but I dont want to hurt the people I am already with lets take it one day at a time. there is no guarantee or commitment to no one. You make the relationship open.
 

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Pushing someone who is using a VR headset is a dick move. Pushing someone who just got out of surgery is much worse. Jaye manages to do both in one shove because she's still the same spoiled little brat she's always been. There was a brief moment where it looked like the main character would finally tell her to grow up and act her age, but no. She pouts a bit and he instantly switches from telling her that what she did was fucked up, to rewarding her bad behaviour by giving her exactly what she wants.

In stark contrast to Jaye's selfishness, we see Bianca put the feelings of others ahead of her own, even if she hasn't met them yet or knows if they exist at all. Before you can get intimate with her, you must first assure her that you aren't going to be cheating on anyone by doing so. I wanted to tell her just that, but the game claimed that would be lying.

Apparently it still counted Mallory as an exclusive relationship, which seems unfair considering how she unilaterally decided to involve Amanda in our sex life. I would think that what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and us helping Bianca get her groove back would be similar to Mallory bringing Amanda in on the action. But the game disagrees.

Creating a new route for a guilt-free time with Bianca was no trouble at all thanks to the complete lack of minigames, free roaming sections, or any such time wasting nonsense that so many other games have. This route seems to be the best of them because everyone gets what they deserve. Bianca gets her pool boy fantasy, Mallory can do whatever she wants with Amanda, and Jaye can go fuck herself.

In playing through this latest route, I did something I hadn't done before. I sent Fiona the picture she wanted. She ends up sending us a custom made dildo in the mail, and the package was discovered by Jaye and Bianca. I briefly thought that we would be able to give it to Bianca, but it gets stolen by Jaye instead. Which is not surprising, considering how she had previously stolen our journals. So this is yet another example of how Jaye hasn't grown as a person at all.

There is a scene where Jaye demands the main character go on a walk with her, and then uses it to try to guilt trip him into staying a part of her life. She says "You need to understand that I can't do this without you." If she truly loved him, she would be saying something about how he needs to start putting himself first sometimes. But that's not Jaye, as everything is about her. She then says "I'm angry at myself that I had to come so close to losing you to let go of my anger..." and when he tries to respond, she angrily snaps at him saying "Let me have this!" without a hint of self-awareness. This whole conversation began with Jaye telling him to "Just shut up and walk with me." She's still bossing him around, and he's still enabling her. Same as it ever was.

I understand that people who liked Jaye right from the start wouldn't want her to change, but it's odd that the rest of us get a big load of nothing to work with here. We can't confront her, and we can't get rid of her. We're just stuck with her being an overbearing harpy who occasionally steals our intimate items to masturbate with because she's a creepy stalker. I would hope that the final chapter would allow us to distance ourselves from her a bit, but I've been hoping for that the whole game. I'd be foolish to think that could happen now.

At this point, I'm just praying we'll get a chance to make an honest woman out of Bianca.
Agree with Jaye stuff. Those that like her see her as a strong woman who knows what she wants, but I still see the self-centeredness and acting like a child. And like you said, MC just allows it to happen.

On Mallory, on one route, I turned the threesome down, and Mallory is fine with it, she falls hard for MC and has no interest in Amanda apart from friendship.
 

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On Mallory, on one route, I turned the threesome down, and Mallory is fine with it, she falls hard for MC and has no interest in Amanda apart from friendship.
I kind of stopped playin because of what others said about this. Glad you posted this. I'll finally catch up now. Thanks.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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Pushing someone who is using a VR headset is a dick move. Pushing someone who just got out of surgery is much worse. Jaye manages to do both in one shove because she's still the same spoiled little brat she's always been. There was a brief moment where it looked like the main character would finally tell her to grow up and act her age, but no. She pouts a bit and he instantly switches from telling her that what she did was fucked up, to rewarding her bad behaviour by giving her exactly what she wants.

In stark contrast to Jaye's selfishness, we see Bianca put the feelings of others ahead of her own, even if she hasn't met them yet or knows if they exist at all. Before you can get intimate with her, you must first assure her that you aren't going to be cheating on anyone by doing so. I wanted to tell her just that, but the game claimed that would be lying.

Apparently it still counted Mallory as an exclusive relationship, which seems unfair considering how she unilaterally decided to involve Amanda in our sex life. I would think that what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and us helping Bianca get her groove back would be similar to Mallory bringing Amanda in on the action. But the game disagrees.

Creating a new route for a guilt-free time with Bianca was no trouble at all thanks to the complete lack of minigames, free roaming sections, or any such time wasting nonsense that so many other games have. This route seems to be the best of them because everyone gets what they deserve. Bianca gets her pool boy fantasy, Mallory can do whatever she wants with Amanda, and Jaye can go fuck herself.

In playing through this latest route, I did something I hadn't done before. I sent Fiona the picture she wanted. She ends up sending us a custom made dildo in the mail, and the package was discovered by Jaye and Bianca. I briefly thought that we would be able to give it to Bianca, but it gets stolen by Jaye instead. Which is not surprising, considering how she had previously stolen our journals. So this is yet another example of how Jaye hasn't grown as a person at all.

There is a scene where Jaye demands the main character go on a walk with her, and then uses it to try to guilt trip him into staying a part of her life. She says "You need to understand that I can't do this without you." If she truly loved him, she would be saying something about how he needs to start putting himself first sometimes. But that's not Jaye, as everything is about her. She then says "I'm angry at myself that I had to come so close to losing you to let go of my anger..." and when he tries to respond, she angrily snaps at him saying "Let me have this!" without a hint of self-awareness. This whole conversation began with Jaye telling him to "Just shut up and walk with me." She's still bossing him around, and he's still enabling her. Same as it ever was.

I understand that people who liked Jaye right from the start wouldn't want her to change, but it's odd that the rest of us get a big load of nothing to work with here. We can't confront her, and we can't get rid of her. We're just stuck with her being an overbearing harpy who occasionally steals our intimate items to masturbate with because she's a creepy stalker. I would hope that the final chapter would allow us to distance ourselves from her a bit, but I've been hoping for that the whole game. I'd be foolish to think that could happen now.

At this point, I'm just praying we'll get a chance to make an honest woman out of Bianca.
The Jaye and Alex relationship is the central pillar of this AVN.

On the Jaye only and the Jaye/Mallory open relationships - I did not have the antagonistic Jaye experience you did.

I found that by doing dick things to Jaye - she is true to her character and she does dick things back - she is not one to back down.

If the MC does not care about her, she gives it right back, to a degree.

Even through all of this, though, Jaye still tries to salvage something of the relationship that she and Alex had - honoring the wishes of both her father and stepmother - Alex's Mom.

I don't see why it is strange that she would still try, given the way this story is told and the relationships involved (Jaye and Alex both had great respect and love for their biological parent and their stepmom/stepdad)

I suppose the devs could have taken 9-12 months per update and created much deeper paths for Tara, Lisa and Bianca for example, but they chose to keep their focus on Jaye and Mallory.

I think they did a great job for their first AVN.

There will always be other women in an AVN who could have gotten more screen time.

I like Bianca just like I like Lisa, Tara, Erica, and Sophie but I do not expect the devs to provide a major (or even minor) LI path for each.

IMO - it would be like complaining that George Lucas did not provide the proper Love path for Princess Leia and Chewbacca in Star Wars.

Jaye might not be your preference but the devs wrote Alex with certain boundaries and, outside of game over moments - like letting Jaye drown (a valid choice the devs Did give those who chose to compete with and not care for Jaye), he stays within those boundaries.

Alex has the ability to let Jaye die but Jaye never gets to return the favor...

Alex has multiple opportunities to turn the Jaye relationship into something bad - and Alex acting like a brat holding a grudge is part of how this happens.

For the actual Jaye path (committed to Jaye and Alex does not cheat) - I found it is one of my favorite AVN love stories.

I know others prefer Mallory or Tara or complain that they have been forced to take a particular path (Jaye).

When I tried an AVN and found I hated the way it did certain things - if I hated that experience enough - I stopped playing That AVN and moved on to something I liked.

When I treated Jaye well - she was not a spoiled brat - she was a loving and thoughtful companion who was a joy to be around.

It seems that we each got the Jaye experience we chose in our most recent playthrough.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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MiltonPowers

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The Jaye and Alex relationship is the central pillar of this AVN.

On the Jaye only and the Jaye/Mallory open relationships - I did not have the antagonistic Jaye experience you did.

I found that by doing dick things to Jaye - she is true to her character and she does dick things back - she is not one to back down.

If the MC does not care about her, she gives it right back, to a degree.

Even through all of this, though, Jaye still tries to salvage something of the relationship that she and Alex had - honoring the wishes of both her father and stepmother - Alex's Mom.

I don't see why it is strange that she would still try, given the way this story is told and the relationships involved (Jaye and Alex both had great respect and love for their biological parent and their stepmom/stepdad)

I suppose the devs could have taken 9-12 months per update and created much deeper paths for Tara, Lisa and Bianca for example, but they chose to keep their focus on Jaye and Mallory.

I think they did a great job for their first AVN.

There will always be other women in an AVN who could have gotten more screen time.

I like Bianca just like I like Lisa, Tara, Erica, and Sophie but I do not expect the devs to provide a major (or even minor) LI path for each.

IMO - it would be like complaining that George Lucas did not provide the proper Love path for Princess Leia and Chewbacca in Star Wars.

Jaye might not be your preference but the devs wrote Alex with certain boundaries and, outside of game over moments - like letting Jaye drown (a valid choice the devs Did give those who chose to compete with and not care for Jaye), he stays within those boundaries.

Alex has the ability to let Jaye die but Jaye never gets to return the favor...

Alex has multiple opportunities to turn the Jaye relationship into something bad - and Alex acting like a brat holding a grudge is part of how this happens.

For the actual Jaye path (committed to Jaye and Alex does not cheat) - I found it is one of my favorite AVN love stories.

I know others prefer Mallory or Tara or complain that they have been forced to take a particular path (Jaye).

When I tried an AVN and found I hated the way it did certain things - if I hatred that experience enough - I stopped playing That AVN and moved on to something I liked.

When I treated Jaye well - she was not a spoiled brat - she was a loving and thoughtful companion who was a joy to be around.

It seems that we each got the Jaye experience we chose in our most recent playthrough.

Cheers!! :coffee:
This is great. While I personally did not like Jaye at all, I understand that some, like yourself really enjoy her and her character, and I'm glad that you did. The Dev has done an excellent job with their first AVN and provided us with the options and people will always like different things. I loved Mallory and even though it was difficult to get off the Jaye romance path, once I did, I actually started to really like the Jaye as a friend/sister. There were a few chats between Jaye and MC that were really deep and meaningful without being sexualized (that you may not have got on a romance path or with different dialogue). But, that's just me, I realize that most people do prefer Jaye over Mallory, and I wouldn't hate on their choice, but like you said, there's options for nearly everyone.
 
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LL.Noble

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Made the classic mistake you commited to them both thats why it was game over. You dont commit give them the I want to see where this will go but I dont want to hurt the people I am already with lets take it one day at a time. there is no guarantee or commitment to no one. You make the relationship open.
Not so simple. If you choose the path of an open relationship for both girls, you will find....Game Over at exactly the same place in Chapter 7. Again! Because despite the status of an open relationship, to continue the game it is necessary that the MC does not have sex with Mallory. I checked. Once you move on, you can catch up.
 

LL.Noble

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Seriously, you think two-timing both leading ladies competing for your love with "a fairy tale about great love" is a best guy behavior? :FacePalm:
In fact, I simply chose the paths in which the maximum number of hearts and thumbs up was collected, thinking that I would have to choose between them at the end of the game.
 

LL.Noble

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I don’t understand those who criticize Jay here. This character's behavior is closest to real girls. Especially in an effort to get what he wants.
 

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Not so simple. If you choose the path of an open relationship for both girls, you will find....Game Over at exactly the same place in Chapter 7. Again! Because despite the status of an open relationship, to continue the game it is necessary that the MC does not have sex with Mallory. I checked. Once you move on, you can catch up.
You only get game over if you promise to be exclusive with them. When you first have sex with Mallory in the bed you will get 3 options that's when you can open the relationship and then when you fuck jaye for the first time in the hotel you will be given 3 option chose the open relationship. When Mallory and Jaye meet in the hallway they will have a discussion about how the arrangement will workout.
 

felicemastronzo

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Even through all of this, though, Jaye still tries to salvage something of the relationship that she and Alex had - honoring the wishes of both her father and stepmother - Alex's Mom.

I don't see why it is strange that she would still try, given the way this story is told and the relationships involved (Jaye and Alex both had great respect and love for their biological parent and their stepmom/stepdad)
Exactly what are you referring to here? :unsure:
 
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