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Jafo

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Glad to be of help but not sure where I did help lol Thought you said you had JokerLeader saves not working but yeah if was with Sancho mod saves he always put the savefixer on his mods, he cares even if people want to stop using his mods (or in this case being MIA since end of June :cry:) that the saves made with it are able to work anyway, unless there are drastic changes in the game code it always works.
I will give you one more heads up while using this mod. Yes I works fantastic! But what I found out because I always use URM is that all what URM has collected in the game is gone. No big deal but please be aware.
 
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Jafo

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I'm pretty sure you can't get max points with just one of the girls either. I've never been able to any playthrough.

EDIT: I was actually able to get max love points on Mal solo route. 110/100.
Yeah right..... with URM hahaha
 

pitao

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I will give you one more heads up while using this mod. Yes I works fantastic! But what I found out because I always use URM is that all what URM has collected in the game is gone. No big deal but please be aware.
Yeah it is not a problem, I just use URM to understand what some choices lead to, rarely I change stats. Can change a variable just so I don't have to backtrack to an old save to change a little thing that will save me time and explore a new path with another save.

That is why I prefer author good multi mods for a game like Sancho usually does, not for the cheating itself but for the information that allow me to save time and easily make my own best strategy if I need more than 1 save to explore my desired content spending the least time on a game, ofc also for the neat other features that improve gameplay like textbox and readability (that URM also have now) and gallery options after I'm done with the game.
 

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Yeah I know that is not my problem, my problem is this stupid game but a nonsensical throuple path in the solo jaye path, instead of the path it should of been in if they were going to do a throuple path. So if I start dating a girl Tomorrow, should I just hope that she will offer me a throuple option in couple weeks with her friend, cause apparently thats is how it works, cut off mallory, no more sex, then she will definitely still want you and all of a sudden jaye will beocme ok with sharing. STUPID DECISIONS!!!!!!
Talking about reality here?
You won't also find 99% of your mom(replica) out there also. There are other hundreds of logic too but let's not waste time arguing. I don't see any problem giving an option to try triangle. If one likes reality so much he/she shouldn't read adult VN.
 

doovel

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Thanks for this. First of all, I just want to be clear that I agree it can definitely be achieved without the mod. But as I mentioned before, to get there without the mod, it's an accumulation of our choices as per the requirements that augustus mentioned. So if people didn't use the mod but got offered the polyamory ending, then it's a result of their choices throughout the game.

You mentioned that you "accidentally" got that, and there might be other people in the same boat. But my question to you (and those in similar position), is it really an accident? The reason why I asked this is because of the said requirements being high love score for both Jaye and Mallory, as well as telling Mallory that you wish things could be different. To me, if the goal is to be with Jaye, there is no reason for either of those requirements to be fulfilled by the MC.
It's accidental in the sense that I used the one save I have that met the pre-1.0 requirements, and then proceeded to make the 2 choices in this release that were necessary first. Just because that was the one I ended my last replay on. It happened to be the path I'm the least interested in. I'm all in on the side-girls in this AVN, as Mal and Jaye just don't do it for me.

I'm still the one making the choice to accept the poly relationship or not. Nothing about that was accidental.

While I can appreciate that you might not intend to go for polyamory ending (and therefore "accidental"), IMO this is the beauty of this game where choices actually matter. You did say you wish things were different with Mallory (clearly implying that you wanted more though you didn't act on it). You did keep high love score with Mallory (an accumulation of your choices throughout the game up to that point) so she is still interested in MC despite MC being in a relationship with Jaye. Based on these choices, it seems that the MC did want to have polyamory relationship if possible, and that's what the game gave you. This is the result of your choices.
It's funny, my motivation was completely different than actually wanting things to be different. It was something I would've said out of compassion. Similarly that was the reason I decided to hit the "Phone a friend" option, that was a fuck this absolute cunt-waffle to hell and back. Granted I didn't expect to see Amanda there, as she wasn't really necessary (it was just a reference).

None of those choices were born out of an interest in a poly or open relationship. I tend to play most/all paths in AVNs when the AVN is interesting enough. I try to put myself into the main characters driving seat. Which leads me to monogamy as a default. I only play the Open/harem paths to see if and what the shit show will be.

This is not a knock on you or others btw. This is more of a conversation on a broader context where I think a lot of players do not expect that their choices can matter in an intricate way like this where there is no polyamory path but there is a polyamory ending. This is very different than most other games where often times paths are very obviously marked. As I mentioned on my other comment, this is a positive thing for me though I can understand that others might feel differently.
I really love it when those choices matter in AVNs, but I can't appreciate it when the AVN breaks and distorts it's own internal logic to force it to happen. In this case the choices make little to no sense with the characters we have. Not unless there's a long road between the previous release and this one.

It breaks the characters and what their choices would be based on the previous release. To name an obvious comparison, this is like GoT S8 where characters make nonsensical decisions based on their characterisation up to that point.

I hope people who are upset at the ending would look back in a few days time, think about it more, understand why it is the way it is, and able to appreciate the beauty of the game a bit more.
I cannot, I appreciated the beauty up till this point though. This will 100% remain a "fuck up by the Author, because they wanted to move on to the next thing". Or perhaps it was a 'need'. In which case I don't blame the author for making that choice, it doesn't absolve them and it does make their game much worse than it would've been otherwise. This game was never about the sex scenes for me, as the implied incestuous nature of the story prevents arousal. It was however interesting enough that I had grown fond of it.

Just for reference, most games on here score below a 3/5 for me. This game went from a 4.25 to a 3.5 with this release. When it could've gone up if the story and the characters were given their proper due.

Edit: Separately, I also want to add that my main goal is to correct the false narrative that is somewhat floating around here where they said you'd get the polyamory ending if you're on solo path. This is factually not true. Choosing to be monogamous will result in monogamous ending.
I've since seen those replies and you're right. It's not like you actually get forced into the poly path. There are some strict requirements to be fulfilled.
 

doovel

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That's why such mods are generally shit. They leads on the players to make the "right" decisions. In the end players are only chosing the "best" choice and ends up confused learning that hunting for the love points high score and all the scenes isn't the best way to play a game. Walkthrough mods are just making players to play it kinetic.
Unless I'm mis-remembering, the walkthrough is practically included in the game. You get the + or - amount of love/trust points after making a choice.

In general, always try a clean play through first. Before you start cheating or modding. You don't want to rob yourself of a potential great experience by having everything spelled out for you.
 

Jafo

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Yeah it is not a problem, I just use URM to understand what some choices lead to, rarely I change stats. Can change a variable just so I don't have to backtrack to an old save to change a little thing that will save me time and explore a new path with another save.

That is why I prefer author good multi mods for a game like Sancho usually does, not for the cheating itself but for the information that allow me to save time and easily make my own best strategy if I need more than 1 save to explore my desired content spending the least time on a game, ofc also for the neat other features that improve gameplay like textbox and readability (that URM also have now) and gallery options after I'm done with the game.
Here the same. Only sorry about Sancho. He was the best. Hope he will return on the scene. Can you imagine playing BAD all over?
 
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battlebrother

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The game is oddly silent for me. Music tracks barely ever play. Main menu music is there tho. Is that intended or my game busted somehow?
 

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The game is oddly silent for me. Music tracks barely ever play. Main menu music is there tho. Is that intended or my game busted somehow?

dont know if you have an error, but it is indeed the case that music is not always running. Hm... maybe roughly 50% of the scenes dont have music, but some do have background sounds going on when there is no music, or both at the same time. but a lot of scenes dont have any soudn at all..

So if you think its about half the time quiet, it is what it is... if you have the feeling its way more where sound is missing, something is off.
 
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alain8891

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From the dev team some 30 minutes ago...posted on Steam board and similar post in Discord:

Upcoming 1.0a Patch
In addition to some bug fixes, the 1.0a patch will add a new scene.

Based on feedback, it's clear that once the player sets on one destructive path to his relationships in Chapter 6, in spite of the foreshadowing he is never given the opportunity to course-correct or make things right.

This seems overly-punitive, and as such there will be some choices available to the player at the beginning of Chapter 9 that were not there on launch day.

These choices will not add endings, or make arrangements acceptable to love interests that were not palatable before, they will simply give the player an opportunity to make decisions on his own behalf before they are made for him.

We expect to have this patch ready within 48 hours.
This relates specifically to the open relationship path...
 

Reniere

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From the dev team some 30 minutes ago...posted on Steam board and similar post in Discord:



This relates specifically to the open relationship path...
so what your saying is...... it was a bug lol
im taking any W to name the nonsense of 1route equals 2. lol
 
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doovel

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From the dev team some 30 minutes ago...posted on Steam board and similar post in Discord:



This relates specifically to the open relationship path...
There was already a 23MB patch on Steam earlier, but I imagine this was something else. Though I can't see any patch notes.

This was one of my gripes. I hope the correction is that you can tell Mal you want to commit before you jump out of the heli. If you haven't been sleeping around. Or something along those lines. Really should have had that opportunity a bit earlier.
 

alain8891

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There was already a 23MB patch on Steam earlier, but I imagine this was something else. Though I can't see any patch notes.

This was one of my gripes. I hope the correction is that you can tell Mal you want to commit before you jump out of the heli. If you haven't been sleeping around. Or something along those lines. Really should have had that opportunity a bit earlier.
Yeah the earlier patch update (not just Steam, all platforms including Patreon too) was an updated scripts.rpa which addressed a few bugs (typos, branching...). This newer update is a bit more significant...
As I understand it the new scene will take place after the concert...therefore before the heli jump.
 

doovel

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so what your saying is...... it was a bug lol
im taking any W to name the nonsense of 1route equals 2. lol
This isn't a bug. They realised it wasn't popular or they realised they were punishing the player too harshly. It was intended behaviour however.

I'm sceptical about the latter, as they also labelled 'open' or 'exploring' destructive options. Something they shouldn't de facto be.

Normal relationships start that way all the time. You don't want to label it yet, you want to keep exploring without committing etc. It's only shitty behaviour if you keep pretending a relationship isn't getting more serious when it is. When you've passed it's official, we just haven't said it yet stage.
 

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so what your saying is...... it was a bug lol
im taking any W to name the nonsense of 1route equals 2. lol
This isn't a bug. They realised it wasn't popular or they realised they were punishing the player too harshly. It was intended behaviour however.

I'm sceptical about the latter, as they also labelled 'open' or 'exploring' destructive options. Something they shouldn't de facto be.

Normal relationships start that way all the time. You don't want to label it yet, you want to keep exploring without committing etc. It's only shitty behaviour if you keep pretending a relationship isn't getting more serious when it is. When you've passed it's official, we just haven't said it yet stage.
Yeah thats not a bug imo, that's an oversight, it happens, devs are human.....or so they claim.
 
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