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Walter Victor

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Not sure about all that and "justice side" you speak of. I've not seen any justification for that. Then there's the simple plots like the hot Bianca... the update before this last you watched a movie with her and damn near banged her, but she ran off leaving us thinking there was something in the next update letting us get "closer".... but nah, game over. Pretty much sums up this update. Bunch of meh.

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Perhaps you missed this in the latest developer update in a previous post provided by Old Man Al. Here it is:
This is not (repeat) this is not the end!

I also want to emphasize that each ending will be fully fleshed out in the last content update, and (hopefully) any loose ends will be tied up with it. A surprisingly large number of fans have assumed that we'd ended romantic paths in Walter's bar, and so I wanted to state emphatically that this is not the case. We've had each ending visualized for a few years now, and can't wait to share them with you.
I guess we'll see if this particular 'loose end' gets 'tied up' or not.
 

LizaS

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lot of people have been saying the writing sucks based on them not getting endings that they expected to get. That doesn't necessarily equate to poor writing
Agreed, because that isn't my concern. (Although the concerns of others have some merit, since, for example, if you choose a solo path with a character, it’s normal to expect that it will stay that way and not be jumpscared to it being a throuple all of a sudden)

I haven't been very vocal about the writing issues in this thread since I liked the game in its early days. It had such promise of being one of the best AVNs, if not the best, in this space. But, after having such a lackluster after lackluster updates, I guess that has changed.

There were a lot of plot inconsistencies, plot convenience, bad branching, outdated pop culture references (some forced jokes), disappearing side-girls, and dialogue that sounds overly professional as if everyone is always in a meeting. Additionally, there were too few setups and payoffs, now the nonsensical outcomes, and the list goes on.

The writer, Stoya, compared to his peers isn't bad. But his writing style clearly shows he's better suited at writing books instead rather than a game where you, as the player, are given choices that should matter and story branching exists.

The recent update felt like a slap to the players. It seemed as if the message was, "Oh, you're not going to play the story the way I wanted? Here, have a bad ending." The story felt disjointed. It. Felt. Kinetic.

I’ve been saying for a long time that Stoya is fortunate to have Kentyrr as his artist (who posts a lot of custom renders publicly, markets the game, and is, as some people say, one of the best artists in this space). Without Kentyrr, Chasing Sunsets wouldn’t be as successful and as popular as it is today.

I dare say his talent with the art side of the game makes some players overlook the issues with the writing.
 

Walter Victor

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Agreed, because that isn't my concern. (Although the concerns of others have some merit, since, for example, if you choose a solo path with a character, it’s normal to expect that it will stay that way and not be jumpscared to it being a throuple all of a sudden)
I hope you realize, that if you wish to avoid that 'jumpscare', you can just turn it down. Just like you can turn down nearly every other sexual situation in this game.
 

LizaS

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I hope you realize, that if you wish to avoid that 'jumpscare', you can just turn it down. Just like you can turn down nearly every other sexual situation in this game.
That's odd. Huh... Because in the post you just quoted, it said;
For those of you who felt burned by the outcome of the casual path for the two main LI's, we know we dropped the ball.
While we feel the girls' dissatisfaction with the casual arrangement was adequately telegraphed, we also never provided an offramp for the player to right the ship. That both violates the spirit of our "no gotcha" statement at the beginning of the game, and it's objectively obvious that the result was unduly punitive.
I (Stoya) take ownership for that as the writer, and legitimately felt gut-punched the moment I realized that no escape hatch had been provided.
I wonder what that means. :unsure:
 

MagicMan753

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I wonder if you commit to jaye in ch.9 in the new scene with the new patch coming out, will we still have a chance at the throuple then, because if not what would be the point. If we can, that would fix most of my gripes about the throuple being locked to jaye path, but if not and really is just a choice of not ending ep alone or whatsoever, I think it would still be stupid, becaus then you would still have to cut off mallory for like 3 chapters to get the throuple, which I feel like is bad and doesn't make sense personally. So hopefully with this choice added throuple will still be possible.
 

Joshy92

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Agreed, because that isn't my concern. (Although the concerns of others have some merit, since, for example, if you choose a solo path with a character, it’s normal to expect that it will stay that way and not be jumpscared to it being a throuple all of a sudden)

I haven't been very vocal about the writing issues in this thread since I liked the game in its early days. It had such promise of being one of the best AVNs, if not the best, in this space. But, after having such a lackluster after lackluster updates, I guess that has changed.

There were a lot of plot inconsistencies, plot convenience, bad branching, outdated pop culture references (some forced jokes), disappearing side-girls, and dialogue that sounds overly professional as if everyone is always in a meeting. Additionally, there were too few setups and payoffs, now the nonsensical outcomes, and the list goes on.

The writer, Stoya, compared to his peers isn't bad. But his writing style clearly shows he's better suited at writing books instead rather than a game where you, as the player, are given choices that should matter and story branching exists.

The recent update felt like a slap to the players. It seemed as if the message was, "Oh, you're not going to play the story the way I wanted? Here, have a bad ending." The story felt disjointed. It. Felt. Kinetic.

I’ve been saying for a long time that Stoya is fortunate to have Kentyrr as his artist (who posts a lot of custom renders publicly, markets the game, and is, as some people say, one of the best artists in this space). Without Kentyrr, Chasing Sunsets wouldn’t be as successful and as popular as it is today.

I dare say his talent with the art side of the game makes some players overlook the issues with the writing.
Dude I hated that whole throuple situation on Jaye's solo path.
 

felicemastronzo

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I hope you realize, that if you wish to avoid that 'jumpscare', you can just turn it down. Just like you can turn down nearly every other sexual situation in this game.
If it ruins your perception of the character, the damage is done. When Mallory proposes Amanda and seems to reluctantly accept your choice to exclude her (and up to that point there was nothing to foreshadow that there was a "special" relationship between the girls) , the fact that you were able to say no does not solve every problem.
 

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I wonder if you commit to jaye in ch.9 in the new scene with the new patch coming out, will we still have a chance at the throuple then, because if not what would be the point. If we can, that would fix most of my gripes about the throuple being locked to jaye path, but if not and really is just a choice of not ending ep alone or whatsoever, I think it would still be stupid, becaus then you would still have to cut off mallory for like 3 chapters to get the throuple, which I feel like is bad and doesn't make sense personally. So hopefully with this choice added throuple will still be possible.
Okay, just finished, and I was on the open/throuple path, but Mallory ended it after the big date day. Is that the only way it can play out, or is there a way to get a better result? Like, if that's the story, it's the story.
 

Justaphase

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Okay, just finished, and I was on the open/throuple path, but Mallory ended it after the big date day. Is that the only way it can play out, or is there a way to get a better result? Like, if that's the story, it's the story.
No, if you are in an open relationship Mallory will always walk away. Jaye might also if your love points aren't high enough. IMO to get the best result make monogamous saves for both girls. You can get a "polyamorous" route by fully commiting to Jaye and dumping Mallory, but its weird and I wouldn't recommend it right now. Perhaps when we get the epilogues, hopefully some time this year.
 
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No, if you are in an open relationship Mallory will always walk away. Jaye might also if your love points aren't high enough. IMO to get the best result make monogamous saves for both girls. You can get a "polyamorous" route by fully commiting to Jaye and dumping Mallory, but its weird and I wouldn't recommend it right now. Perhaps when we get the epilogues, hopefully some time this year.
Cheers, thanks for that. Saves me trying to save it through reloads. Guess I'll wait on those epilogues before doing a full replay or whatnot.
 

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Let me begin to say that the game is excellent. But, but it seems to me that there was some rush in these final chapters, even if this is not the "End".

I felt that the stories around Amanda, Tara and, in a lesser degree, Bianca, felt short.

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Let me begin to say that the game is excellent. But, but it seems to me that there was some rush in these final chapters, even if this is not the "End".

I felt that the stories arond Amanda, Tara and, in a lesser degree, Bianca, felt short.

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While I agree with you and I would have loved to have seen more of those characters. They were never going to play a major role in the game, they were only side characters. We will hopefully see plenty more of them in their next game Firebreak, where Tara as far as I'm aware becomes one of the main love interests.
 

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While I agree with you and I would have loved to have seen more of those characters. They were never going to play a major role in the game, they were only side characters. We will hopefully see plenty more of them in their next game Firebreak, where Tara as far as I'm aware becomes one of the main love interests.
I agree with him, imo seeing the reactions of the people around the MC and his LI about their relationship development/status is a vital part in AVNs imo. It helps to make AVN's more immersive instead of feeling like youre playing a guy in a small bubble without any connections to the outside world.

I really disliked how Tara didnt even greeted the MC too, it was out of place imo. He could have just take a cab and left (as he intended) before they got back with the car ... it was strange ...

The MC's intervention when Jaye was in a call with her university pres was kinda strange too imo. Yeah the pres was a jerk but she kinda was right about Jaye being a nepo baby who can use her connections to get whatever she wants (even if she earned her achievements) after the stunt the MC pulled.
 
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I've been playing the "most eligible bachelor" route in hopes of an epilogue scene where we are walking arm in arm with a visibly pregnant Bianca and cross paths with her worthless ex-husband just to rub some more salt in his wounds. It seemed like a pretty safe bet before this update since Lisa and Tara are off the table due to them being in the next game, so the number of potential women for the bachelor route was slimmed down to only a few established characters. But now I'm not so sure we'll get more Bianca since she wasn't even mentioned in this update.

Maybe the bachelor route will just be the die alone and miserable route. Fiona seems to have finally given up on us and run off down to Mexico to flirt with what I'm assuming is the protagonist of the next game. Linda and Erica weren't mentioned at all in this update either. Neither was Tanaka. So it's hard to tell what's being planned for the epilogue. Hopefully it isn't just more scenes of the MC talking about how remorseful he is of how things turned out, because there's already too much of that.

There was talk about getting Bianca a job with the company, so that feels very much like a loose thread to be tied up, as well as a decent setup to spend more time with her. We also never got any update from Linda after we gave her advice about leaving her husband. So a visit from her could be another possibility. I just don't know if the developers care enough to bother with either of them at this point.
 

Justaphase

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I agree with him, imo seeing the reactions of the people around the MC and his LI about their relationship development/status is a vital part in AVNs imo. It helps to make AVN's more immersive instead of feeling like youre playing a guy in a small bubble without any connections to the outside world.

I really disliked how Tara didnt even greeted the MC too, it was out of place imo. He could have just take a cab and left (as he intended) before they got back with the car ... it was strange ...

The MC's intervention when Jaye was in a call with her university pres was kinda strange too imo. Yeah the pres was a jerk but she kinda was right about Jaye being a nepo baby who can use her connections to get whatever she wants (even if she earned her achievements) after the stunt the MC pulled.
I agree with the first part about Tara, it felt like they were all going to hang out and maybe even fool around a bit? This is what most players were hoping for and wanted to see and that is important, it felt like it was cut from the game.
Also calling Jaye a "nepo baby" is unduly harsh don't you think? Do you think she wanted her parents to die? All of the responsibility of running the parents company has fallen on the MC and Jaye and it's pretty clear that neither of them wished for it, but are trying their best.
 

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I've been playing the "most eligible bachelor" route in hopes of an epilogue scene where we are walking arm in arm with a visibly pregnant Bianca and cross paths with her worthless ex-husband just to rub some more salt in his wounds. It seemed like a pretty safe bet before this update since Lisa and Tara are off the table due to them being in the next game, so the number of potential women for the bachelor route was slimmed down to only a few established characters.
I played roughly the same path and Lisa actually heavily hinted that she'd want to get more serious with the MC. The MC wasn't very enthusiastic about that though. And yes, how that works with her being a MG in Firebreak is anyone's guess.
 

Justaphase

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I've been playing the "most eligible bachelor" route in hopes of an epilogue scene where we are walking arm in arm with a visibly pregnant Bianca and cross paths with her worthless ex-husband just to rub some more salt in his wounds. It seemed like a pretty safe bet before this update since Lisa and Tara are off the table due to them being in the next game, so the number of potential women for the bachelor route was slimmed down to only a few established characters. But now I'm not so sure we'll get more Bianca since she wasn't even mentioned in this update.

Maybe the bachelor route will just be the die alone and miserable route. Fiona seems to have finally given up on us and run off down to Mexico to flirt with what I'm assuming is the protagonist of the next game. Linda and Erica weren't mentioned at all in this update either. Neither was Tanaka. So it's hard to tell what's being planned for the epilogue. Hopefully it isn't just more scenes of the MC talking about how remorseful he is of how things turned out, because there's already too much of that.

There was talk about getting Bianca a job with the company, so that feels very much like a loose thread to be tied up, as well as a decent setup to spend more time with her. We also never got any update from Linda after we gave her advice about leaving her husband. So a visit from her could be another possibility. I just don't know if the developers care enough to bother with either of them at this point.
The guy in the post credit scene with Fiona is Christian. Who is apparently asexual, so no I seriously doubt he's the protagonist of Firebreak. It was a weird scene and the developers attempt at humor, which didn't work IMO
 

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Did Joker ever fix his mod of this ? or im guessing he's waiting for the 1.01 patch ?
Fix? If you're asking about the last bar scene variable flip so that both Mallory and Jaye show up on the "both open" path, no, it has not been fixed, yet. However, both Mallory and Jaye's end stats show both love the MC enough to explore a polyamorous relationship and preceding scenes/convos indicate both are on board, neither has broken up with the MC.

Joker might be waiting until the patch to fix that minor scene issue, just in case there's anything else that needs tweaking to get that scene "right".
 
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felicemastronzo

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I've been playing the "most eligible bachelor" route in hopes of an epilogue scene where we are walking arm in arm with a visibly pregnant Bianca and cross paths with her worthless ex-husband just to rub some more salt in his wounds. It seemed like a pretty safe bet before this update since Lisa and Tara are off the table due to them being in the next game, so the number of potential women for the bachelor route was slimmed down to only a few established characters. But now I'm not so sure we'll get more Bianca since she wasn't even mentioned in this update.

Maybe the bachelor route will just be the die alone and miserable route. Fiona seems to have finally given up on us and run off down to Mexico to flirt with what I'm assuming is the protagonist of the next game. Linda and Erica weren't mentioned at all in this update either. Neither was Tanaka. So it's hard to tell what's being planned for the epilogue. Hopefully it isn't just more scenes of the MC talking about how remorseful he is of how things turned out, because there's already too much of that.

There was talk about getting Bianca a job with the company, so that feels very much like a loose thread to be tied up, as well as a decent setup to spend more time with her. We also never got any update from Linda after we gave her advice about leaving her husband. So a visit from her could be another possibility. I just don't know if the developers care enough to bother with either of them at this point.
Among those missing in action you forgot the bartender/driver, whom we are still waiting to see again.
 

TonyMurray

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Among those missing in action you forgot the bartender/driver, whom we are still waiting to see again.
And who randomly has relationship stats in the game. No idea if there was an intended point to that, but either it never came to anything, or it was so small that it just flew by.
 
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