VN Ren'Py Completed City of Broken Dreamers [v1.15.0 Ch. 15] [PhillyGames]

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Cabin Fever said:
That would be a big fat no. Patches only work for unmodified original versions. Compressed is a modified & unsupported 3rd party version.
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That is incorrect. If anything the answer is a definite maybe, seeing as compressors – with the notable exception of those working on android ports who will at times switch out the included Ren'Py runtime – generally only touch media files.

But the whole point is moot anyway, seeing as the update patch alone is twice the size of 1.0.2 compressed and Tohe Miju will be better off just downloading the latter (also linked in the OP).
 
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Hordragg said:
That is incorrect. If anything the answer is a definite maybe, seeing as compressors – with the notable exception of those working on android ports who will at times switch out the included Ren'Py runtime – generally only touch media files.
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Well in this case Cabin Fever is correct, the update patch wouldn't work properly with the 0.6 compressed version.

This is because compressors unpack the script files and almost always leave them loose in their releases. Unpacked script files take precedence over files inside RPA archives, which most games including CoBD and it's update patch use. So any existing script files won't be updated by the patch, including the version number in options.rpyc.

So patches will generally only work correctly with compressed versions if the original patch does not use RPA files for it's scripts.
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But the whole point is moot anyway, seeing as the update patch alone is twice the size of 1.0.2 compressed and Tohe Miju will be better off just downloading the latter (also linked in the OP).
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This is an excellent point though.
 
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Meushi said:
Well in this case Cabin Fever is correct, the update patch wouldn't work properly with the 0.6 compressed version.

This is because compressors unpack the script files and almost always leave them loose in their releases. Unpacked script files take precedence over files inside RPA archives, which most games including CoBD and it's update patch use. So any existing script files won't be updated by the patch, including the version number in options.rpyc.

So patches will generally only work correctly with compressed versions if the original patch does not use RPA files for it's scripts.
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The structure or rather packaging of the game allows for manipulating the media files without extracting the script files.
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This is true for both the official release and the 0.7 compressed I could get ahold of. There are also no extracted script files in 0.7 compressed:
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Seeing as I don't have access to 0.6.1 compressed, that may have been something Philly changed in anticipation of the steam release (as it's easier to deploy hotfixes this way). But until someone points me to the relevant post detailing this change or grants me access to 0.6.1 compressed I will stand by my original point of them not being correct in this.
 
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But until someone points me to the relevant post detailing this change or grants me access to 0.6.1 compressed I will stand by my original point of them not being correct in this.
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I don't think I've ever seen the official compressed released here?

I imagine Philly is doing proper image optimization against the original source material, so isn't compressed in the same manner the unofficial ones typically seen around f95zone.

The f95zone compressors mostly use a Cruncher script, which I assume unpacks all the scripts by default, because this is almost always the case with those I've looked at.

The current compressed version in the OP is an unofficial City of Broken Dreamers 1.0.2 Compressed version using this Cruncher mechanism.

As you can see the script files are loose:

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Meushi said:
I don't think I've ever seen the official compressed released here?

I imagine Philly is doing proper image optimization against the original source material, so isn't compressed in the same manner the unofficial ones typically seen around f95zone.

The f95zone compressors mostly use a Cruncher script, which I assume unpacks all the scripts by default, because this is almost always the case with those I've looked at.

The current compressed version in the OP is an unofficial City of Broken Dreamers 1.0.2 Compressed version using this Cruncher mechanism.

As you can see the script files are loose:

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Cabin Fever got it right, as in contrast to 0.7 compressed 0.6 compressed suffers very much the same problem as 1.0.2 compressed.

As to the rest of your post: Philly is distributing jpegs and thusly indeed employing lossy compression (but with higher perceived quality than cruncher will provide) and it's not cruncher that's used to extract the rpas but rather unren. It is quite… interesting to see that not only does one need to take the game's general structure into account but also the work habits of our resident compressors.

Thanks for the insight! (y)
 
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xXwankerXx said:
A perfect ten !! I definitely recommend you to play it ASAP or you can wait for Ch.8 to pop up this month. If u never gave it a shot, look on pornhub for some dudes like JohannesGaming, MisterDoktor, JoyStickCinema, xxxninjas, LoveSkySan69 etc. they do walkthrough vids of porn games and u can check out the content to see if u like it. Gotta keep informed, right ??:WeSmart:

But seriously now, you can't go wrong with this game or this dev. I also recommend Depraved Awakening, his last game. DA was a great game but COBD is a masterpiece.

Have fun playing both games and consider supporting Philly with a positive comment/review, constructive criticism or subscribe to his Patreon page !!;)(y)
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Cool thanks!! and yea depraved awakening was a great one. one of the first ones i played and it really set the bar high if you ask me
 
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I thought about Shanlon when i played another game, "Where The Heart Is". There's this new character named Mabel that reminded me of an less extreme version of Shanlon. The similarities as in being blond bitchy women wanting to be dominated by the MCs and becoming addicted to him more or less.
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Speaking of Shanlon, I'm curious to see how Shanlon escapes the incoming battle at her place in the next update, preferably unscathed.
 
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K18 said:
There's this new character named Mabel that reminded me of an less extreme version of Shanlon.
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Nah, that's Zoe from WVM, same model used for the character and cheeky personality. Absolutely loved her bickering with Monica.

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Speaking of Shanlon, I'm curious to see how Shanlon escapes the incoming battle at her place in the next update, preferably unscathed.
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I think the MC will stop Gloria from killing both her and that piece of shit of a human being aka Alexis Conner. She's a good kid, killing them both would make her a monster like her stupid dad claims she is. I'm more afraid about how will they be able to survive fighting all those mercs and assholes (especially the Redmoon) that want to capture Gloria considering Henry's fragile health.
 
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K18 said:
I thought about Shanlon when i played another game, "Where The Heart Is". There's this new character named Mabel that reminded me of an less extreme version of Shanlon. The similarities as in being blond bitchy women wanting to be dominated by the MCs and becoming addicted to him more or less.
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Speaking of Shanlon, I'm curious to see how Shanlon escapes the incoming battle at her place in the next update, preferably unscathed.
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Not to be mean...but comparing characters/art of a "blonde, bitchy" Shanlon to that example is borderline offensive. Haha
 
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