VN Ren'Py Completed City of Broken Dreamers [v1.15.0 Ch. 15] [PhillyGames]

[Aristos]

The writing in the current intro is trash compared with the tone set in the original one. That's a fact.

Right?????

It's a shame I didn't keep an original version but only the Book 1 version published after the Steam release.
As you say, the original version of that intro set the tone much more effectively than it does now. It was darker, probably wordier, and resorted to some sort of external narrator that is usually uncommon in Philly, but the atmosphere was amazing.
"There will be screams, there will be pain, there will be *i can't remember*." It's gone.
Now it's all much more aseptic and rushed.

 

[Aristos]

And now to illustrate what I wrote about orgasms, let's have a look for example at Gloria's sex scene from the latest update.

This is the exact sequence in which it takes place.

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From my POV that's too fast. For such a long and steamy scene it makes no sense.

Second and last example: Victoria at the MC's apartment.

Firstly they have sex against the wall and it ends with a very good animated cumshot on Vicky's face, which is a rarity.
But then they go for round two on the couch, and this happens:

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[moskyx]

Right?????

It's a shame I didn't keep an original version but only the Book 1 version published after the Steam release.
As you say, the original version of that intro set the tone much more effectively than it does now. It was darker, probably wordier, and resorted to some sort of external narrator that is usually uncommon in Philly, but the atmosphere was amazing.
"There will be screams, there will be pain, there will be *i can't remember*." It's gone.
Now it's all much more aseptic and rushed.

It's still present in my translation files, although it's not displayed in game anymore. I refused to delete those now useless lines as a silent protest.

"The slow hum of the neon lights stretches out over the dark city."
"Poor witnesses to the events about to unfold."
"As the sharp snap of violence begins, then ends abruptly."

(Ghosts kill Gloria's friends and listen to her voice message telling them about the Noir, that segment is stilll the same.)

"The fast rhythmic beat of the Tech Noir mixes with the pounding of the dancers on the floor."
"A young girl waits for friends that will never come."
"Her patience turns to worry."
"Those around her, passing her by. Their only excitement is waiting back stage."
"Discussions in the dark, their meanings unknown."
"Friendly? Maybe. Fiendish? Perhaps."
"Regardless, the show must go on."
"A once shining star goes back onto the stage."
"Above that stage, he waits."
"Like a sentinel. Watching, biding, for his time. A time that will soon arrive."
"The former star approaches the mic."
"Trying to relive her old glory."
"Glory shall not arrive tonight."
"There will be pain."
"There will be fear."
"There will be panic."
"There will be chaos."
"And there will be death..."
"On this night."
"Blood shall rain from the sky."
"The three intruders finally meeting their match."
"For only gods would cause such suffering."
"Confusion takes over as the crowd flees."
"Terrified by what she has witnessed."
"The young girl stumbles out alone."
"Shock takes over. In a daze, she staggers to the doors."
"Battered and broken, she lurches outside into the night."
"Then in a panic."
"She flees."
"Her destination unknown."
"Anywhere. It does not matter. As long as it's far away."
"Then, with a crack, she trips."
"Laying on the cold concrete of the streets of LA, she passes out."
"Only to be found again by the one who watches."

It wasn't perfect, probably, but it had tone and rythm. Short, dark sentences that raise you alert levels. You feel what it's told... and then the superb intro video kicks in and swallows you into the game. Now almost all of that is replaced by inane dialogue lines that don't convey any emotion at all. Didn't understand the change.

 

[godkingxerxes]

Nice renders!

So hot.

 

[Aristos]

It's still present in my translation files, although it's not displayed in game anymore. I refused to delete those now useless lines as a silent protest.



It wasn't perfect, probably, but it had tone and rythm. Short, dark sentences that raise you alert levels. You feel what it's told... and then the superb intro video kicks in and swallows you into the game. Now almost all of that is replaced by inane dialogue lines that don't convey any emotion at all. Didn't understand the change.

Thank you, compadre. It's great to hear those lines in my head again.
Seeing it again, I would probably prune some excessively bombastic sentences, like "for only gods would cause such suffering". Which on top of that didn't have any connection with what was happening (gods?).
But the essence should have remained. Paired with the music, it gives me goosebumps

 

[The Bush Diver]

Thank you, compadre. It's great to hear those lines in my head again.
Seeing it again, I would probably prune some excessively bombastic sentences, like "for only gods would cause such suffering". Which on top of that didn't have any connection with what was happening (gods?).
But the essence should have remained. Paired with the music, it gives me goosebumps

Damn it amigo! Can't believe I've never seen those lines...Such a darker tone, amazing in essence!

It's like a music artist having to tone down his lyrics for some reason, to reach a broad audience or to make it commercially better.

I understand the frustration. And count me in on the sad team about the lack of post-sex bliss content.

Spoiler: Although some o-faces are really nice...

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[Meushi]

Some other day we'll discuss the way in which the game's very first scene was remade, maybe before the Steam release (not sure).
In my opinion, for the worse.

As far as I can tell, the prologue was rewritten in v1.08.

The writing in the current intro is trash compared with the tone set in the original one. That's a fact.

As you say, the original version of that intro set the tone much more effectively than it does now.

It's still present in my translation files, although it's not displayed in game anymore. I refused to delete those now useless lines as a silent protest.

The rewrite uses the same image names as the original version, so it's not too hard to restore the old prologue dialogue.

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The attached City of Broken Dreamers Prologue Restore Mod restores the old intro/prologue used up to v1.0.2.

It doesn't replace any of the original files, and only modifies the two prologue scenes.

Limitations:

• Avoid saving within the prologue scenes, as those saves may be incompatible with the standard game if this mod is not installed. Saving anywhere outside these scenes will be fine.
• I have no idea how this mod would interact with translation files.

Install: Unzip this archive and copy the prologue_old_mi.* files into the "game" folder to use it.

Uninstall: Delete the prologue_old_mi.* files in the "game" folder.

 

[The Bush Diver]

As far as I can tell, the prologue was rewritten in v1.08.



The rewrite uses the same image names as the original version, so it's not too hard to restore the old prologue dialogue.

--------------------------------------------------

The attached City of Broken Dreamers Prologue Restore Mod restores the old intro/prologue used up to v1.0.2.

It doesn't replace any of the original files, and only modifies the two prologue scenes.

Limitations:

• Avoid saving within the prologue scenes, as those saves may be incompatible with the standard game if this mod is not installed. Saving anywhere outside these scenes will be fine.
• I have no idea how this mod would interact with translation files.

Install: Unzip this archive and copy the prologue_old_mi.* files into the "game" folder to use it.

Uninstall: Delete the prologue_old_mi.* files in the "game" folder.

And the great Meushi has arrived! I'm such a fan of this guy, after saving the A.O.A community with his WT

 

[ename144]

As far as I can tell, the prologue was rewritten in v1.08.



The rewrite uses the same image names as the original version, so it's not too hard to restore the old prologue dialogue.

--------------------------------------------------

The attached City of Broken Dreamers Prologue Restore Mod restores the old intro/prologue used up to v1.0.2.

It doesn't replace any of the original files, and only modifies the two prologue scenes.

Limitations:

• Avoid saving within the prologue scenes, as those saves may be incompatible with the standard game if this mod is not installed. Saving anywhere outside these scenes will be fine.
• I have no idea how this mod would interact with translation files.

Install: Unzip this archive and copy the prologue_old_mi.* files into the "game" folder to use it.

Uninstall: Delete the prologue_old_mi.* files in the "game" folder.

Nifty!

You are correct, BTW, the change came between v1.0.2 and 1.08.1; I still have some of the older versions in my archives.

I'm a little torn on which version I prefer. The original is more... evocative, and definitely more ominous. But the prose can be a bit much at times, and the new version is a lot more in keeping with the way the game itself is structured. I guess I can go either way.

 

[Aristos]

As far as I can tell, the prologue was rewritten in v1.08.



The rewrite uses the same image names as the original version, so it's not too hard to restore the old prologue dialogue.

--------------------------------------------------

The attached City of Broken Dreamers Prologue Restore Mod restores the old intro/prologue used up to v1.0.2.

It doesn't replace any of the original files, and only modifies the two prologue scenes.

Limitations:

• Avoid saving within the prologue scenes, as those saves may be incompatible with the standard game if this mod is not installed. Saving anywhere outside these scenes will be fine.
• I have no idea how this mod would interact with translation files.

Install: Unzip this archive and copy the prologue_old_mi.* files into the "game" folder to use it.

Uninstall: Delete the prologue_old_mi.* files in the "game" folder.

So it happened right after the Steam release? Now that's weird

Thank you! As usual you're our idol

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

So it happened right after the Steam release? Now that's weird

Thank you! As usual you're our idol

Honestly, tonal issues aside, it just didn't fit too well with the way the rest of the game was done. It was literally the first thing written for CoBD 0.1 and we felt the new intro fit better. We did it for the Steam release, so the rest of the game would be a bit more cohesive and that release was the perfect time to fix anything we wanted to do. If you want to complain to anyone, I'll take it at me... sorry you preferred the older version, and I can see why you would, but at least you know why it was done, and when.

 

[Idontplay]

I prefer the new intro: I don't remember why, but the old one nullified my interest in the game, when it was released for the first time, due to the old one.

P.S. Now I understand why I had the feeling something was changed in the intro, when I have tried it again: it was rewritten!

 

[Razrback16]

I didn't even know there was a different intro originally.

 

[BisonFan02]

Honestly, tonal issues aside, it just didn't fit too well with the way the rest of the game was done. It was literally the first thing written for CoBD 0.1 and we felt the new intro fit better. We did it for the Steam release, so the rest of the game would be a bit more cohesive and that release was the perfect time to fix anything we wanted to do. If you want to complain to anyone, I'll take it at me... sorry you preferred the older version, and I can see why you would, but at least you know why it was done, and when.

What Burt said. I remember comments about the intro more than a few times during betas and it potentially being tweaked. I don't necessarily disagree with some who liked the original better, but I lean towards what Burt mentioned. The Steam release for book 1 was going to need to be a more "polished" version of those chapters anyway.....which probably forced the decision at that point.

Bottom line....it was going to be tweaked. One could argue that it should have received a trim rather than shaved (hair cut reference) and that argument would have more legs IMHO.

 

[priyabrata]

I hope you guys enjoy this. Two months of work, and every penny I earned from DA, if you guys don't like it, I'll go get drunk or something.

So are you going to make depraved awakening 2nd version?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Kinda weird to quote a 2 years old post to ask about the game.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Kinda weird to quote a 2 years old post to ask about the game.

Yeah, could have skipped the quote but i'm guessing it was for emphasis?

And of course, I wouldn't mind a VN with more Carli

 

[cxx]

doubt philly will answer anyways. i don't think da will get sequel since it felt complete.

 

[CHAD-MAN]

I think we're still a couple updates from COBD ending, so chances are not even Philly has a clue on what he wants to do next

 

[Arigon]

I would like to see Philly try a comedy. It is clear that he can do some fine writing and artwork. If he did a comedy, I would buy the damned thing sight unseen.
Carli would be a plus though.... of course, I could go for some sexbot and genetically manipulated love as well!
Peace