pitao

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It is updated ;)

Suggest you use the search bar...or just look yourself, few pages back or search authors name in the thread. Link in OP goes to previous one.
Yeah that was how I got it, went to the messages the author did and got the updated PDF WT (Even though it has a slight error on the conditions for the No LI "Victoria+Gloria" ending, btw same error is on the multi mod lol no idea if the code was confusing for both of them set it wrong, it was another player that pointed out the error some pages back in this thread). But the author of the PDF WT should have edited the post that is linked in the OP like most modders and WT writers usually do :p
 

AlienEDM

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I'm not sure what you mean. What i was implying is that, since the game can end with
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then if the dev wants to write a sequel he will have to pick up at least which of the two possible overall scenarios is the canon one.
I agree with you. If Philly is even considerating to write a sequel for City of Broken Dreamers, he need to pick which ending is the canon one. However, just like any RPG game, I think the canon ending for COBD is the one where you defeat Baynard and Gloria is free.

But, like a certain mission on The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt says: "When something ends, something begins." So, with Baynard weak, now Vostok will be the villains for the Philly's next game.
 

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Honestly, I'm still unclear about the actual setting of Philly's next game. I've read some vague statements that he supposedly made some time ago, but everything seems to be a bit fuzzy to be honest. And I don't think it would be a good idea to follow COBD's story either, neither with new characters nor with some we already know.

Anyway, there is some very important advice I'd like to give in case Philly should read me: I believe he should stick to shorter games like DA. He should plan and write the story 100% before starting any further development, and then complete it in 2.5 or 3 years TOPS.
This is just a humble opinion from someone who's been enjoying his work for 6 years now.
 

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Even though, Abby and Chandra's ending was lack luster..
I still overall enjoyed the game..
 

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do you have to enact victorias plan at the beginning on chapter 7 to get the spellbound ending? or can you get it without?
 

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I agree with you. If Philly is even considerating to write a sequel for City of Broken Dreamers, he need to pick which ending is the canon one. However, just like any RPG game, I think the canon ending for COBD is the one where you defeat Baynard and Gloria is free.

But, like a certain mission on The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt says: "When something ends, something begins." So, with Baynard weak, now Vostok will be the villains for the Philly's next game.
no he doesn't, if next game has cobd's mc again (doubt it) there are plenty of options not to reveal canon ending.

do you have to enact victorias plan at the beginning on chapter 7 to get the spellbound ending? or can you get it without?
most likely yes on 1st unless you cheat.
 

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can anyone tell me how to get Victoria, Gloria, and Meridith's scene?
do you have to enact victorias plan at the beginning on chapter 7 to get the spellbound ending? or can you get it without?
I guess you both saying the same thing right? The Alone/No LI "Victoria+Gloria" ending? If so there is some checks, yes enact victoria plan in chapter 7, from there never lock onto any LI path in chapter 12 and then again in the last chapter.
In chapter 14 make sure you give Katie the fluids in the choice Hold onto it/Give it to Katie (this is where the PDF WT and the multi mod got it wrong, they say to Hold onto it no idea why, I tried that way and Gloria rejects Victoria offer in chapter 15 giving the normal alone ending).
Also in chapter 15 before Gloria meets with Victoria make sure Gloria love points are less than 7 (plus enact Victoria plan and give the fluids to Katie) and the outcome is Gloria accepting Victoria offer, that and MC Depravity is 3 or higher and no LI path locked give you the "spellbound" alone ending and if Meredith is alive also unlocks the bonus Meredith scene (I guess she always is if Victoria is alive as well).

So to resume make those safe checks during the playthrough:
- Enact Victoria's plan in chapter 7.
- Don't lock/enter into any LI path (those choices are in chapter 12 and 15), do the alone path.
- Keep Gloria love points low (PDF WT says lower than 7, never checked the threshold, in that particular playthrough I had it low like 2 or 3).
- Make sure to collect some depravity points, at least 3 (the WT says it, I had way more in that playthrough so wasn't worried).
- Give the fluids to Katie in chapter 14 choosing the option "Give it to Katie"
- If those conditions are met Gloria accepts Victoria offer in the final chapter and unlocks the Ending I guess you both are speaking about.
- When the ending finishes unlocks the Victoria+Gloria+Meredith bonus scene. PDF WT says if Meredith is alive but she should if Victoria is alive.

Someone feel free to correct me or explain it better. All the other 5 endings are almost straightforward (1 for each LI and the Alone/No LI ending). Also there is no way I would get this ending without a Walkthrough (written or mod), the conditions are too specific for anyone to reach it with purpose (even with WT guide it was an headache to get for me) so I guess it makes this the "Secret game ending" lol
 

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Honestly, I'm still unclear about the actual setting of Philly's next game. I've read some vague statements that he supposedly made some time ago, but everything seems to be a bit fuzzy to be honest. And I don't think it would be a good idea to follow COBD's story either, neither with new characters nor with some we already know.

Anyway, there is some very important advice I'd like to give in case Philly should read me: I believe he should stick to shorter games like DA. He should plan and write the story 100% before starting any further development, and then complete it in 2.5 or 3 years TOPS.
This is just a humble opinion from someone who's been enjoying his work for 6 years now.
Well, Philly hasn't made any official statement yet about his next game theme will be. But I agree with you that he should write 100% of the story before announce anything about the game. And, in my honest opinion, I think he should also choose something different from DA and COBD this time. I mean, both DA and COBD were sucessfull games, but I think he should out of his confort zone and build a different game with no detective theme game this time. I would suggest an "exploration action sci-fi" game theme, something similar with Mass Effect and Halo. Or, he could maybe think about an "exploration action mediavel", something like The Witcher or Assassin's Creed.
 
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I guess you both saying the same thing right? The Alone/No LI "Victoria+Gloria" ending? If so there is some checks, yes enact victoria plan in chapter 7, from there never lock onto any LI path in chapter 12 and then again in the last chapter.
In chapter 14 make sure you give Katie the fluids in the choice Hold onto it/Give it to Katie (this is where the PDF WT and the multi mod got it wrong, they say to Hold onto it no idea why, I tried that way and Gloria rejects Victoria offer in chapter 15 giving the normal alone ending).
Also in chapter 15 before Gloria meets with Victoria make sure Gloria love points are less than 7 (plus enact Victoria plan and give the fluids to Katie) and the outcome is Gloria accepting Victoria offer, that and MC Depravity is 3 or higher and no LI path locked give you the "spellbound" alone ending and if Meredith is alive also unlocks the bonus Meredith scene (I guess she always is if Victoria is alive as well).

So to resume make those safe checks during the playthrough:
- Enact Victoria's plan in chapter 7.
- Don't lock/enter into any LI path (those choices are in chapter 12 and 15), do the alone path.
- Keep Gloria love points low (PDF WT says lower than 7, never checked the threshold, in that particular playthrough I had it low like 2 or 3).
- Make sure to collect some depravity points, at least 3 (the WT says it, I had way more in that playthrough so wasn't worried).
- Give the fluids to Katie in chapter 14 choosing the option "Give it to Katie"
- If those conditions are met Gloria accepts Victoria offer in the final chapter and unlocks the Ending I guess you both are speaking about.
- When the ending finishes unlocks the Victoria+Gloria+Meredith bonus scene. PDF WT says if Meredith is alive but she should if Victoria is alive.

Someone feel free to correct me or explain it better. All the other 5 endings are almost straightforward (1 for each LI and the Alone/No LI ending). Also there is no way I would get this ending without a Walkthrough (written or mod), the conditions are too specific for anyone to reach it with purpose (even with WT guide it was an headache to get for me) so I guess it makes this the "Secret game ending" lol
that was really detailed thanks so much! appreciate it. this ending is so freakin specific it's gotta be canon
 
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that was really detailed thanks so much! appreciate it. this ending is so freakin specific it's gotta be canon
Yeah I thought the same, it is the ending that would make a possible continuation of the story more plausible(?), well definitely more interesting for sure, you are still single, Victoria with Gloria help ruling Baynard and you still doing jobs for them with special bonus reward with them :p and having Meredith as a prize pet lol
But I agree with AlienEDM a few posts above even though I still prefer sci-fi theme over medieval theme even if futuristic medieval fantasy like FF12 (as may I add because they were all released around same time even though I believe FF12 was still released before the first original The Witcher and Assassin's Creed games, book novels of The Witcher are older ofc), but I approve both themes :)

Edit: Just keep it VN style, no sandbox, a few free roams and mini games are ok. If i want a less linear game style I go back to my old PS2 and run FF12 again for 200+ hours :ROFLMAO:
I mean, both DA and COBD were sucessfull games, but I think he should out of his confort zone and build a different game with no detective theme game this time. I would suggest an "exploration action sci-fi" game theme, something similar with Mass Effect and Halo. Or, he could maybe think about an "exploration action mediavel", something like The Witcher or Assassin's Creed.
 
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that was really detailed thanks so much! appreciate it. this ending is so freakin specific it's gotta be canon
The definition of a canon path doesn't include being on a very specific and narrow path.

My personal belief is that it feels so out of joint with the rest of the story that it has to be a fan service ending and not canon.

But that's all subjective.
 
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