flxgrm
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I dislike unavoidable NTR...really most unavoidable actions...results in just a VN not a game. Guess wont be 'playing' this game anymore. Deleted.
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BeastMaster59
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I'll say this: if it is one event per game, which triggers all the future action and serves as some kind of starting point(was implemented in The Office, for example, albeit pretty badly) - good. But if it's one unavoidable event after another - then yeah, it's wrong.
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The basis of the story is of two paths, either the marriage ends or it is saved, there are no other options, from this update I could say that at least 80% is a failure, the conversation that Clara and Alan have in the bar on the day is irrelevant later, so much so that if you decide to tell Clara the truth, the game doesn't allow it, we now understand that it is more of a kinetic story, 80% of the choices are useless, as demonstrated by the latest update.
we can see Leon is manipulating everything from the beginning. he is a two faced shithead who has learned to manipulate those around him like a pro. and i am positive he is the mole we are trying to find. the clues have been there. i haven't actually played this update yet, and not sure if i will bother tbh.
seems most of these games are about deceiving the good guy and the wife eventually allows herself to be manipulated into fucking others cause the dev is a twisted fucker who gets off on writing shit like this. sure i know, we are warned that hard NTR is coming, but in playing through, it still pisses me off how events are shaped to make is so the mc can't stop the fuckers around him stealing his wife from him. at least he seems to have the option of messing around with his assistant at some point. and she is quite the hottie and honestly i don't really care if the mc divorces the cheating whore Clara to be with the other girl.
#FUCKYOULEON
seems most of these games are about deceiving the good guy and the wife eventually allows herself to be manipulated into fucking others cause the dev is a twisted fucker who gets off on writing shit like this. sure i know, we are warned that hard NTR is coming, but in playing through, it still pisses me off how events are shaped to make is so the mc can't stop the fuckers around him stealing his wife from him. at least he seems to have the option of messing around with his assistant at some point. and she is quite the hottie and honestly i don't really care if the mc divorces the cheating whore Clara to be with the other girl.
#FUCKYOULEON
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Read through the whole sequence(update, I mean). Meh.
How to mess everything up with one update.
Leon is the mole, his "dead" daddy is the one pulling the strings/helping him.
Unless the developer decides to put out Deus Ex Machinas here and there.
The reader, who can figure 2+2, got all of the questions answered in here and first act is not even finished yet.
I'm not Shakespeare of any sorts, but how to take suspicions off of Leon, but get him to be the one who Clara cheats with?
Give her an impossible task of sorts, alongside Leon. No? Okay, she's drunk, right? Get her to come to Leon, who's also drunk and upset of something(friend's death, I dunno) instead of him coming to her. Let them get drunk together and things to spiral out.
But nah, Leon conveniently comes to her right away)
I get it, it's NSFW VN, not great tragedy. But if you build it up with putting emphasis on a story - you've gotta do something differently.
Guess what will happen from now on? Leon will get to grope Clara here and there in front of Alan, kissing and shit with "Sorry, I couldn't hold myself off" with signs of blackmail.
So, instead of story-driven stuff with plot twists and mystery(yup, it would've still been Leon in the end, but with characters having "Red Herring" roles). We've got typical NTR story. Disappointed.
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ohh no no no no
he dosent know
she will get dicked down too
this will be a rollercoaster my guy
this is is my personal favorite game. next to long story short.
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quoting the developer himself:ohh no no no no
he dosent know
she will get dicked down too
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this will be a rollercoaster my guy
"To clear up some confusion people might have, NTR is technically avoidable for main female lead(but game will end early) and completely avoidable for second female lead. But it depends on your choice"
Anna can be saved for the MC, mate)
Don't know why some people got shocked and crying. From day 1 it was said there is going to be unavoidable ntr for Clara. That means she will get fucked at least once. But it was funny to see ntr haters popping out lamenting Makes one wonder why they even played so long (in denial perhaps?)
But personally this update was epic for me even though I saw it coming. Leon and Clara build up was great. He was there for her throughout, saved her from Gunnar and was there for emotional support. No wonder she fell to his advances but also shows how flawed she is.
Now the interesting part should be how everything happens after this point. Will Clara start to act differently? Will MC catch onto anything? If he does will he forgive Clara or not? What is Leon and Anna going to do?
Makes one wonder why they even played so long (in denial perhaps?)But personally this update was epic for me even though I saw it coming. Leon and Clara build up was great. He was there for her throughout, saved her from Gunnar and was there for emotional support. No wonder she fell to his advances but also shows how flawed she is.
Now the interesting part should be how everything happens after this point. Will Clara start to act differently? Will MC catch onto anything? If he does will he forgive Clara or not? What is Leon and Anna going to do?
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Everything that happened is quite logical ! Not Alan, but Clara is under increasing pressure from mysterious forces! Clara, after doing obscene things, really felt self-destruction. Leon knows Clara's condition and is always there. No wonder they say a drunk woman can't resist the desires of her pussy! And Leon carries out an insidious plan and at the same time fucks a beautiful girl very effectively. Off the record! If Leon doesn't end up taking Clara for himself, then it would be better if someone else fucked her!
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I repeat, the game was born like this, it's not a problem, we already know that Clara will always be fucked, the difference in the game in the end will be whether Alan forgives her or not, that's all, now we'll have fun with all the dirty things planned for Clara, who in my opinion is the real MC of the game, Alan is just a presence. then we will have the two endings, that's it.
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Well it makes since that the MC would end up with the Asian chic, him and the blond are really complete opposites. It's just sad that they made Clara out to be this gritty no nonsense agent that should've been able to see Leon for what he was. An she'll be the last to figure out that its been Leon's dad she's been talking to whole time. He's been setting up scenarios to where Leon can pop up to help guide her a certain way and to make himself look like some kind of guilding light. But in the end Alan is more compatible with Ann, Clare is posed to be this kick ass agent type chic that really doesn't need to be tied down by anybody. She wants to have someone in her life but after this is all said and done she'll she how she was manipulated to hurt someone she cared about she'll realize that in her life of work it's best not to have any attachments. She'll be sad and every now and then she'll check up on Alan and his new chic, and she'll think that could've been her but it was not to be. They'll probably she Clare peeking around the corner of a busy street watching the couple, they may even have a new baby. Clare will be all sad looking, then they'll she her on her next mission.
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Ruined the game with the last update. If just a "kiss" can convince you to cheat on your partner then you were never worthy of that person.
Clara is a pure slut inside. Another good game wasted
Clara is a pure slut inside. Another good game wasted
My thoughts. Choices doesn’t matter. Every option leads to typical NTR situations eventually
Clara is surrounded by multiple wolves. But which one will she fall for? Or will MC hold her hand and help her escape?
Opposites attract. I just wanna say that opposite people can end up having true love. But Clara has a lot going on and is under a lot of stress and forced into a vulnerable state which Leon took advantage of. It is true that she is someone who doesn't like to be tied down and is a thrill seeking gal. But at the same time she did fall in love with Alan because of his gentle nature and the stability he offered.
What's more interesting than a perfect wife staying loyal is to see a wife making mistakes, realizing it and walk on the path of fixing a broken relationship. If I preferred the former, I would have just stuck to vanilla games but meh, they are too predictable and boring for me.
If there are any such choices available, I hope to see ones that also include Clara realizing her wrongs and trying to make up for it while holding hands with Alan. This is why I like games with multiple routes. There can be a tragic ending but there can also be a better or happy one.
At least for this game, there would be more than 5 endings and that's more than enough I suppose.