Ren'Py Corrupted Kingdoms [v0.22.1a] [ArcGames]

[masterdragonson]

People like to complain.

that we do and given the size of the fan base means there are still some stranglers coming in

That doesn't mean what they're complaining about is a deal breaker for them.

True some people are just sharing their opinions.

The graphics aren't great but changes are they will be refined going forward after feedback.

CursedFlame91 is currently conducting A Character Comparison Poll on Arc's behalf.

The talk on here seems to be what was done was done by necessity so chances are bits may have been rushed.

Most of the visual assets got changed out in less than a week.

The problem now is there's only so much time in a day so people have two choices. They can continue to froth at the mouth over the graphics and not stop till they're "fixed" but that will mean there's less time spent on creating actual content. So the question is what do people want?

Oh honey, you make it sound like people can't do both I'm sure fans of the devil's meat buns and the devil's cutting board can get along in harmony

Do you want new content or updated graphics for story you've probably already played through?

Well some didn't ask for this and would like something closer to the art design they spent well over a year growing accustom to.
Then there are others that have been saying the story has been a bit skimpy since Act 2. Like that dancing loli that Arc hasn't written a back story for or tied into the big tittied counterpart. Really some fans have theorized time travel do to lack of story

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[Raf-Raf]

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That Kid looks ho- whoa whoa whoa slow down officers, it was a pun!!! IT WAS A PUUUUuuuuuuu-

"Raf was never seen again after this one..."

 

[Master of Puppets]

Can you speak for yourself or is "no one" the long version for you? I like the changes and i'm not alone with that here or on discord. I may not like every single change but it's a joke to say everything went to shit with that update.


I assume Arc will start a poll or ask his most trusted people what they think and how to proceed from here. What i can guarantee is that there won't be two versions of the game (old style and new style) at the same time cuz that would end in a absurd amount of work.

Or he just goes on from here and part of the community splits and leaves. Who knows.

So the fact that you liked the changes overrules the fact that most people didn't? Trying to pretend that the reaction to the changes hasn't been mostly negative is absurd. I'm so dissatisfied with the last update I'm considering dropping support for the project, depending on if he can come up with a satisfactory way forward. Sure, some of the changes are good, but the ones that are bad are so bad...

 

[Porn_Jesus]

So the fact that you liked the changes overrules the fact that most people didn't? Trying to pretend that the reaction to the changes hasn't been mostly negative is absurd. I'm so dissatisfied with the last update I'm considering dropping support for the project, depending on if he can come up with a satisfactory way forward. Sure, some of the changes are good, but the ones that are bad are so bad...

I would like to see some numbers. Most people, all of them, everyone, very nice words a person can use as they please but what about facts? I have met people who don't like the update at all, others who are very pleased with it and some between.

So by all means...show me numbers that so many people are against the new update to back up your own words.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

The new models aren't really jiving with me. Honestly, people have as much a legal right to the models as they do the Koitatsu game that hosts them. IE: none.

People should get off their high horse about laying claim to models they made in a game they don't own. People who make their own models in some 3D modeling program have a better claim to the models they make from scratch. Not saying Arc is in any wrong for using someone's model, only saying the people he barrowed from should stop pretending they actually own them.

 

[Master of Puppets]

I would like to see some numbers. Most people, all of them, everyone, very nice words a person can use as they please but what about facts? I have met people who don't like the update at all, others who are very pleased with it and some between.

So by all means...show me numbers that so many people are against the new update to back up your own words.

Yeah, sure. I'm going to go back over the last week of comments and count all of them to give an exact number. I'll get right on that...
You seriously think most people are happy about how things are going? We got an awful update, the next week was a nothing update, Arc has been lurking in the thread but hasn't posted anything, and the timing of his computer breaking happening to coincide with such a disliked update is highly suspicious. What is there to like about any of this? It's far more than just hating Chloe being replaced. Arc earned a lot of goodwill with his record up to this point, but it has limits.

 

[Raf-Raf]

The new models aren't really jiving with me. Honestly, people have as much a legal right to the models as they do the Koitatsu game that hosts them. IE: none.

People should get off their high horse about laying claim to models they made in a game they don't own. People who make their own models in some 3D modeling program have a better claim to the models they make from scratch. Not saying Arc is in any wrong for using someone's model, only saying the people he barrowed from should stop pretending they actually own them.

Dunno man, a certain show which I'm still waiting for a season 2 got axe- delayed again due to some complaints that they "stole" their poses...Nope not character deisigns, JUST POSES!!!

"One day No game No life season 2 will be there when I wake up...I'll never lose H O P E..."

I think you mean "borrowed" not barrowed bud'
"Raf is facing charges right now, this post was made by Grammar Na- helper team"

 

[masterdragonson]

I would like to see some numbers. Most people, all of them, everyone, very nice words a person can use as they please but what about facts? I have met people who don't like the update at all, others who are very pleased with it and some between.

So by all means...show me numbers that so many people are against the new update to back up your own words.

Well good because I like charts and graphs too
I think this is the last time CursedFlame91 compiled a chart for his Character Comparison Poll
https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupted-kingdoms-v0-7-0-alpha-arcgames.31912/post-4212801

 

[Evil Earthworm Jim]

That Kid looks ho- whoa whoa whoa slow down officers, it was a pun!!! IT WAS A PUUUUuuuuuuu-

"Raf was never seen again after this one..."

Narrator: I would like to say that Raf-Raf fought the good fight and the sisters left him alone, I would like to say that but prison is a harsh place for pretty young men harsh people and that is how his story ends... Rated NC-17.

 

[tsunamizero02]

Maybe I missed it but has no one mentioned how much character Chastity lost with her new veil?

The old one cast a shadow over half her face giving her a much more sinister look that meshed really well with her dialogue.

Now she just looks...boring. Like a nun. A regular nun. Not an ex-pornstar nun. Not a nun that mutters "Cthulhu fhtagn" in her sleep. Just a nun...with a face tattoo.

 

[Xanado]

Maybe I missed it but has no one mentioned how much character Chastity lost with her new veil?

The old one cast a shadow over half her face giving her a much more sinister look that meshed really well with her dialogue.

Now she just looks...boring. Like a nun. A regular nun. Not an ex-pornstar nun. Not a nun that mutters "Cthulhu fhtagn" in her sleep. Just a nun...with a face tattoo.

Morgana also lost some of her spunk. She could do with some animal bone and horn decorations.

 

[CursedFlame91]

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to share the old cards. They're no longer supported. It's not like it hurts anyone now, especially since they're no longer offered on the patreon.


Then I guess you're our last hope.

I don't have a good reason either.
It's kinda just the fact that I'm salty that I had to search through thousands and thousands of cards (even though no one fucking asked me to do that shit) and at the end of the day I get nothing from it since 90% of my collection has gotten a redesign.

Also that I ended up guilt tripping myself to oblivion.
Like, me finding more and more cards put pressure into Arc and look what happened, a rushed job made in a week that has the community completely divided.

Don't really pay attention to it, it's just me being a dumbass.

Custom render machine broke.

 

[CursedFlame91]

Maybe I missed it but has no one mentioned how much character Chastity lost with her new veil?

The old one cast a shadow over half her face giving her a much more sinister look that meshed really well with her dialogue.

Now she just looks...boring. Like a nun. A regular nun. Not an ex-pornstar nun. Not a nun that mutters "Cthulhu fhtagn" in her sleep. Just a nun...with a face tattoo.

Morgana also lost some of her spunk. She could do with some animal bone and horn decorations.
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Some changes were bound to happen.
I have been tinkering with the models aswell and sometimes the hair or the accesories become a royal pain in the ass while trying to pose them. Especially if you're going to make animations.
For example Kana's hair and tail always clip through stuff or just obstruct good camera angles.
Morgana's tree like limbs make the already painful process of posing hands more unbearable.
I think chastity's veil clipped too much sometimes, I don't know about her hair though.

Also it's funny you post a picture of a leshen, since morgana's old model is basically a monstergirl version of a leshen.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Yeah, sure. I'm going to go back over the last week of comments and count all of them to give an exact number. I'll get right on that...
You seriously think most people are happy about how things are going? We got an awful update, the next week was a nothing update, Arc has been lurking in the thread but hasn't posted anything, and the timing of his computer breaking happening to coincide with such a disliked update is highly suspicious. What is there to like about any of this? It's far more than just hating Chloe being replaced. Arc earned a lot of goodwill with his record up to this point, but it has limits.

Ah right, the self given privilege of claiming facts but not being willed (or able) to prove it. Truly a classic nowadays to look smart and dominant.

I said there are three camps of being not happy with the update, being happy with it and between. No idea where you read one of them is the majority but you are already in wishful mode so i won't try to make sense out of you.^^'

Can't blame Arc for not talking about it here or showing up at all. This whole debate has little to do with a neutral conversation about the whole situation and more with aiming low for ball hits and cancerous behavior when something doesn't hit other peoples demands. Luckily we are all grown up, right?

 

[masterdragonson]

Ah right, the self given privilege of claiming facts but not being willed (or able) to prove it. Truly a classic nowadays to look smart and dominant.

Here is a slightly older chart that list the girls individually based off score
https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupted-kingdoms-v0-7-0-alpha-arcgames.31912/post-4210666
Note the Score available in the poll was 1-10

 

[CursedFlame91]

Here is a slightly older chart that list the girls individually based off score
https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupted-kingdoms-v0-7-0-alpha-arcgames.31912/post-4210666
Note the Score available in the poll was 1-10

Bah, ignore them. They're just trying to rile up people.

Also I guess I have not updated you about the stats. I made an update when the responses hit 400 and I was hoping to make one when we reach 500 but things seem to have slowed down at around 480.

Anyways, here's the thing.


Hell, I even put colors on the damn thing to make it easier to understand.

 

[masterdragonson]

Bah, ignore them. They're just trying to rile up people.

But I like feeding the ducks. It's also fun to see people argue the value of 5-6

 

[Saraf]

Ooph see thats what happens when I decide to let some updates accrue as to have a bit more to play than a single event:
A complete rework with uliterally worse looking designs.
While not all are horrible monstrosities like Minotaur or hit with the blandness stick like Morgana I cant say a single one is an improvement to me.
Really not digging Arcs habit of adding that little chin portion either.
Most problems with the redesigns have already been brought up over the last several pages so Im not even going to bother but urgh...not great.

That aside...jeez can we stop kicking the puppy/Chloe sometime soon?
Girl already was the worst off in the entire harem with either being a complete drone or a slave in the body of one.
Really getting tired of the MC´s random bouts of absolute retardation whenever it serves the plot.
What is it with indie writers rarely being able to keep their MCs consistent(though I guess by now it seems more like he is a genuine selfish idiot rather than just having bouts of complete idiocity)?

It's Disgaea 4, though sadly I think that part of the game was censored... I would have definitely bought it off steam if that were still intact!

Far as I remember that was already censored during development so its not like it was in any of the release versions.

 

[KnowNoHope]

Bah, ignore them. They're just trying to rile up people.

Also I guess I have not updated you about the stats. I made an update when the responses hit 400 and I was hoping to make one when we reach 500 but things seem to have slowed down at around 480.

Anyways, here's the thing.
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Hell, I even put colors on the damn thing to make it easier to understand.

since your thing had comments, mind sharing the angriest or funniest comments

... I just can believe morgana's skin redo was that high, its was the saddest one to me... she lost her tree trunk legs to have normal human legs, and her bark skin is gone... I guess her face and hands might be an improvement

also i think you have cheaters cause 10 or 1 as a mode for all of them seems really off statistically

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Here is a slightly older chart that list the girls individually based off score
https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupted-kingdoms-v0-7-0-alpha-arcgames.31912/post-4210666
Note the Score available in the poll was 1-10

I did the poll myself and yes, the caretaker doesn't look that good in both versions so i gave it a mediocre score. So what do i see...quite a lot of those votes are in the middle section or slightly above. Is this how "no one likes them" looks?