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The IDs are just all the default possible outfits. If you want to make custom outfits you have to manually do it and there is no way to save it as an ID, you just have to make sure to never go back into the cosmetic editor as entering the outfit section will automatically reset the outfit back to one of the defaults (unless that was changed in one of the mini-updates, hasn't messed with it since 45b).
This is a good start, thanks.

1. Does the new system have more outfit names than what it was previously? (3 strings, namely for upper body/lower body/legs and a binary toggle for underwear or no underwear)
2. I was under the impression that the ID # system related specifically to the text used for the transformation as the chosen shows up to a battle. Is this incorrect?
 

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This is a good start, thanks.

1. Does the new system have more outfit names than what it was previously? (3 strings, namely for upper body/lower body/legs and a binary toggle for underwear or no underwear)
2. I was under the impression that the ID # system related specifically to the text used for the transformation as the chosen shows up to a battle. Is this incorrect?
1. The new clothing system is just, you input the name of the article of clothing and then you can go through a bunch of menus to tick what parts of the body they cover. So presumably for the sake of listing upper/lower/underwear it just auto-registers what to list as upper based on what's covering torso areas, what's lower based on what's covering hip/leg areas, and what's underwear based on what's only covering groin/chest areas. Though that list isn't really relevant and you're (relatively) free to make accessories and stuff that doesn't fall in line with the original 3 piece outfit system.
2. Changing the ID also changes the outfit, so it probably just changes both the outfit and transformation text. I'm not exactly clear on the specific details of the IDs though since I haven't messed around with them.
 
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Heya, no idea if it is fixed yet, in Version 45B, I surrounded my custom chosen for the loop with a commander body, and it failed to write the clothing damage paragraph and decided to loop instead, giving me 3 expo ups in a turn. Savegame should be properly set up to just attack chaos and capture her for a double turn.

Actually... this is slightly more fucked up than I realized I think? You know what, I'll upload the save as well as the full day as a text file. Because I somehow got multi turns on fortune as well during the orgy, I think, despite her being a non custom chosen, and I have no fucking clue why. Search for triple !!! with ctr-f in the document to go to the start of the fight. Rather long fight, I am sorry, but I am pretty sure it has to do with expo ups. Chaos and Fortune are affected as far as I noticed.

Also, there is an error in the EE Regeneration action of the two chosen at the start of the turn. They miss an "have".

EDIT:
Still getting double turns on 45c. With the save, attack Justice -> surround justice when commander ends -> attack Fortune with a basic attack -> Capture chaos. The second capture turn on chaos is a double turn.

EDIT2: Still getting the reproducible double turn on 45d, unless it is a problem with how the chosen are stored and they are therefore borked.
Bug report of a softlock. Attached is the save. Load "weird", next day, target stigma, and first turn it'll softlock.

I also seem to get multiple turns occasionally (I choose action, and before that round fully resolves, I get another prompt for another action).
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Void's intro lacked the usual banter, and her name tag's bugged or something, ie "null has made her arrival!"
Thanks for the bug reports. I believe that these are all fixed in R45e.
Confirmed the softlock issue I had is resolved in version c. Thank you CSdev!
You're welcome!
The menu disappeared after clicking on continue once or twice when I went to observe a chosen interacting with another chosen


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I believe this is fixed in R45e, but if someone else runs into it, let me know.
Thanks for your dedication and hard work as always CSdev
Thrilled to see the upcoming update detach virginity with morality breaking and new clothing system affecting more than just the battles.
I've been looking forward to this one for awhile too!
Got a pretty interesting freeze in 45e. The game just stopped responding and all the buttons and the bottom toolbar disappeared after the freeze and me minimizing the window. It happened at the exact same point when I retried again.

1st time with missing bar after freeze + minimizing the window:
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2nd time with the bar still there, freeze on pummel attempt:
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Here's the save.

Steps:
1: Load Slot 1 b12 save versus Rebel, Fury, and Vassal [Loop 1: Nagano]
2: Buy Extra Duration (3) and Extra Capture (1) Commander.
3: Attack Rebel. Grind, Caress, Pummel, Humiliate, Do nothing, Taunt her.
4: Capture Fury. Grind, Caress, Pummel, Humiliate her.
5: Surround Rebel. Grind, Caress, Pummel, Humiliate her.
6: Surround Fury. Caress, Pummel, Grind, Humiliate her.
7: Surround Rebel. Grind, Caress, Pummel - FREEZE HAPPENS.

That's 3 4 times now. Glad I wasn't doing anything too complex and it's easy to reproduce I suppose, lol. Hope the save is salvageable.
Thanks for uploading the save. This is a lingering bug with the Regenerate action. It's caused by some misuse of HashMaps on my end (which I'm fortunately getting some advice on now).
Is it just me or have chastity belts not been working since R45? (from what i know)
they used to just crash the game when you put them on mid scene, now they work mid scene but you can't apply them outside of the "meet" events.
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It just seems to ignore the command to put them on or take them off.
Looks like this was just an error in the code which was supposed to update the Forsaken's wardrobe. It'll be fixed in R46 along with the more detailed handling of clothing in custom sex scenes.
So... Sorry for being dumb but, i downloaded the game and the "Suntorn Dawn", and i can't begin the game, with it; if i do it without the "Suntorn Dawn" i can begin in "Campaign" and then "Begin" and i just starts like normal; but with "Suntorn Dawn" i click and nothing happens it don't freeze, don't appear anything, nothing changes...

What i am doing step by step.
Extract all of the files in the "Suntorn Dawn", except for "Suntorn Dawn.ros".

Put the "Suntorn Dawn.ros" next to the "Corrupted Saviors.exe"
Click 2 times on the "Corrupted Saviors.exe"
Click on "Campaign".
Click on "Import Roster".
Click on "1". (It is the only one Expansion i have...)
Then i finaly click on "Begin". (In case i did not be specific this is the part where nothing happens...)

What i have tried:
Puting an auto clicker for 10 minutes.
Waiting 10 minutes.
Deleting everything and re-extracting everything.
Importing more than one time.
Copy and paste the "Suntorn Dawn.ros" to (Portraits, the game folder, the portraits folder, the "RecycleBin"(This one i had to Copy it somethere and then put it on the "RecycleBin". :)))
Fake ignored it so it could feel sad and start to work.
Yelled "Fuck you!".
Said "IF YOU WONT WORK I WILL DELETE YOU!". (This one i did around 8 times...)

Also sorry for the bad english...
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Quick fix

I've just tried this with the latest version of the game, and my result is the same. I also can't start a new campaign. You are correct. If anyone bricks their game this way, know that the easiest solution is to close the game, start a new one, go to campaign and click "delete chosen" and then one by one delete each of the 27 suntorn dawn chosen. After that the game does not seem to have any ways that it locks up.

Bug reproduction

I think with the new changes, there's something that changed with rosters // characters that it can't start with the file as it was created back then. I've also tried exporting it to a new file, and then importing it, but it still wouldn't start.

I think it's because a new update added more information to characters, physical traits, their entry transformation and relationship restrictions.

Solving it by my hand

It means I'll have to recreate the roster from scratch, which took me about 8 hours or so last time. I also don't know if CSdev has left any guide on transformation ID#'s or if I'll have backward engineer to learn that new system. I've noticed that the game also locks up if you try to edit any of the old character files with the latest build.

Solving it with CSdev help

Ideally CSdev would add some lines of code that when chosen are edited, that if they miss any of the new types of data (physical traits/entry transform/relationship restriction), that instead of locking up, it would create a default values of that data for those characters, so that I could use the program to recreate the chosen with the new types of data so that it would work again. But that might be asking a lot of him and I'm sure he's quite busy already.

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It's by pure chance that I saw this thread and post, I don't frequent here often anymore. I'll try and check up within a week and see if there's help from CSdev or not. If he does, I'll fix it asap. If he doesn't, I might or might not fix it because it will eat up quite some of my time starting over again.
The good news is that I'll be able to fix this in R46 so that the roster pack plays normally and doesn't crash. The bad news is that the old custom clothing will be out of date, so it won't show up properly. So, you might or might not want to remake the pack anyway so that it matches up to the portraits' shown clothing.
This is a good start, thanks.

1. Does the new system have more outfit names than what it was previously? (3 strings, namely for upper body/lower body/legs and a binary toggle for underwear or no underwear)
2. I was under the impression that the ID # system related specifically to the text used for the transformation as the chosen shows up to a battle. Is this incorrect?
1. The new clothing system is just, you input the name of the article of clothing and then you can go through a bunch of menus to tick what parts of the body they cover. So presumably for the sake of listing upper/lower/underwear it just auto-registers what to list as upper based on what's covering torso areas, what's lower based on what's covering hip/leg areas, and what's underwear based on what's only covering groin/chest areas. Though that list isn't really relevant and you're (relatively) free to make accessories and stuff that doesn't fall in line with the original 3 piece outfit system.
2. Changing the ID also changes the outfit, so it probably just changes both the outfit and transformation text. I'm not exactly clear on the specific details of the IDs though since I haven't messed around with them.
To clarify, a Chosen's outfit ID isn't "stored" anywhere on the Chosen. The outfit ID system only exists to help you select outfits for your custom Chosen more eaisly. Once they're generated, a Chosen created with an outfit ID is identical to a Chosen who had that same outfit and transformation description added manually.
 
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The good news is that I'll be able to fix this in R46 so that the roster pack plays normally and doesn't crash. The bad news is that the old custom clothing will be out of date, so it won't show up properly. So, you might or might not want to remake the pack anyway so that it matches up to the portraits' shown clothing
Oh this is just pure good news then.

I'll wait for the new version so I'll be able to load them in and redo the clothing and add accurate info for the other details.
 

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I've tried this game a lot but never really had a lot of successes. Any tips or guides on how to really do things? I can get to the point where the goal is get 1k of sometihing on someone (Inury, expo, etc.) but I always seem to fall just shy of hitting that point and i can't get the chosen to ever generate more than 1 EE each. NOt sure what I'm doing wrong.
 

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I've tried this game a lot but never really had a lot of successes. Any tips or guides on how to really do things? I can get to the point where the goal is get 1k of sometihing on someone (Inury, expo, etc.) but I always seem to fall just shy of hitting that point and i can't get the chosen to ever generate more than 1 EE each. NOt sure what I'm doing wrong.
There's dozens of guides in this thread already. That said, a lot of the info you need can be found in the text files the game is shipped with.
 
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The implicit assumptions within this game still enrage me on a profound level. To summarize the apparent beliefs of the authors, sex is so inherently evil and women so inherently weak that women who have sex, even consequentially, are irreversibly damaged, badly enough to nearly drop their value as people to zero.
 

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I've tried this game a lot but never really had a lot of successes. Any tips or guides on how to really do things? I can get to the point where the goal is get 1k of sometihing on someone (Inury, expo, etc.) but I always seem to fall just shy of hitting that point and i can't get the chosen to ever generate more than 1 EE each. NOt sure what I'm doing wrong.
I'm not going to rewrite it all, but literally one page back I wrote up a short guide of what you should do in the early parts of the game.

The implicit assumptions within this game still enrage me on a profound level. To summarize the apparent beliefs of the authors, sex is so inherently evil and women so inherently weak that women who have sex, even consequentially, are irreversibly damaged, badly enough to nearly drop their value as people to zero.
One should not associate the themes of a story to that of the author. This is a corruption focused game, obviously it goes the route of raping and abusing women until they get corrupted into enjoying it and doing bad things because of it, but that doesn't mean the author personally holds views like that towards women and sex. Besides, the sex that is presented as evil in this game... is rape, molestation, all the parts of sex that are evil. If you drive the Chosen closer together and use the option to spy on the chosen between days, you can actually find them having consensual sex with each other that isn't presented in an evil way (sure it's in part to cope with their trauma, but it's not presented as inherently evil).
 

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The implicit assumptions within this game still enrage me on a profound level. To summarize the apparent beliefs of the authors, sex is so inherently evil and women so inherently weak that women who have sex, even consequentially, are irreversibly damaged, badly enough to nearly drop their value as people to zero.
I guess you believe any racism/sexism/homophobia in movies, games, whatever automatically means the creator also shares those views? For starters, you're viewing the events in this game from an EXTREMELY shallow lens even ignoring the obvious issue with you know, this is a work of exaggerated porn fiction. The girls aren't just any ol girls having sex, they're fighting for the survival of mankind against demons capable of corrupting humans in abnormal ways. Have you even noticed how much the girls need to be raped for it to noticeably fuck them up? If anything, I think this game handles rape and the fall out from it a lot better than most H games. The girls don't just suddenly go cock crazy after 5 minutes of groping or being dicked, and the rape and evil shit certainly isn't glorified. The girls are very much still "human" well into their corruption.

Dunno where the fuck you got the "Drops their value as people to zero bit" btw, that seems like you're projecting or something. I never felt anything like that from the dialogue so far. They lose their shield and can be raped because they're supposed to be pure, the opposite of the demons. It makes sense that as they become more demon-like that they'd lose some of their powers to defend against them, no? It's pretty classic corruption shit that's been used in all forms of story telling since forever.

Let's break things down:

Girls are under tremendous stress that most people would never experience because of the the whole you know, fighting demons to protect mankind. Also being majorly popular/in the spotlight on top of that. They are abused/raped to oblivion, and apparently rarely have much in the way of support/counseling to handle that. Even with that, it still takes an absurd amount of abuse for them to actually noticeably change their personality. I mean, a normal person going through what they go through in a single day would probably be seriously fucked up, they have it for weeks/months/years (Some of the girls were abused by demons and others before you even meet them). Surprise surprise, the girls can end up pretty twisted after like a straight month of hardcore corrupting demon rape, lol.
 
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One should not associate the themes of a story to that of the author. This is a corruption focused game, obviously it goes the route of raping and abusing women until they get corrupted into enjoying it and doing bad things because of it, but that doesn't mean the author personally holds views like that towards women and sex. Besides, the sex that is presented as evil in this game... is rape, molestation, all the parts of sex that are evil. If you drive the Chosen closer together and use the option to spy on the chosen between days, you can actually find them having consensual sex with each other that isn't presented in an evil way (sure it's in part to cope with their trauma, but it's not presented as inherently evil).
I guess you believe any racism/sexism/homophobia in movies, games, whatever automatically means the creator also shares those views? For starters, you're viewing the events in this game from an EXTREMELY shallow lens even ignoring the obvious issue with you know, this is a work of exaggerated porn fiction. The girls aren't just any ol girls having sex, they're fighting for the survival of mankind against demons capable of corrupting humans in abnormal ways. Have you even noticed how much the girls need to be raped for it to noticeably fuck them up? If anything, I think this game handles rape and the fall out from it a lot better than most H games. The girls don't just suddenly go cock crazy after 5 minutes of groping or being dicked, and the rape and evil shit certainly isn't glorified. The girls are very much still "human" well into their corruption.

Dunno where the fuck you got the "Drops their value as people to zero bit" btw, that seems like you're projecting or something. I never felt anything like that from the dialogue so far. They lose their shield and can be raped because they're supposed to be pure, the opposite of the demons. It makes sense that as they become more demon-like that they'd lose some of their powers to defend against them, no? It's pretty classic corruption shit that's been used in all forms of story telling since forever.

Let's break things down:

Girls are under tremendous stress that most people would never experience because of the the whole you know, fighting demons to protect mankind. Also being majorly popular/in the spotlight on top of that. They are abused/raped to oblivion, and apparently rarely have much in the way of support/counseling to handle that. Even with that, it still takes an absurd amount of abuse for them to actually noticeably change their personality. I mean, a normal person going through what they go through in a single day would probably be seriously fucked up, they have it for weeks/months/years (Some of the girls were abused by demons and others before you even meet them). Surprise surprise, the girls can end up pretty twisted after like a straight month of hardcore corrupting demon rape, lol.
Both of you have made the same mistake. It's the implicit that bothers me so much, not the explicit. It is what the author seems to feel doesn't need to be explained, because they believe it to be obvious. Let's think for a moment: what is a demon? It's essentially defined in the game: the enemy of mankind, all that is wrong, evil, immoral, dangerous. What is it that the demons are known for in this game? Sex. Yes, they rape, if you pay any attention you can see that the author's don't consider rape to be the problem, they consider sex itself to be immoral.

There's another premise: the women get their powers via "purity", a concept the authors do not define because, again, they think it's obvious. I don't. What the hell does that mean? Apparently it means they don't have sex. What happens when they do? They are weakened, looked down upon, and eventually snap and start slaughtering civilians. Do you see my point here? The world presented in this game considers sex itself to be immoral (somehow??), and this is not presented as an aspect of that society that is unusual. It's not explained, it's not even mentioned in itself. It's as if the authors take it for granted.

Why can't the heroines have sex? Why doesn't the game bother to explain this concept? Take a step back and think abstractly: they think they don't need to.
 

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Both of you have made the same mistake. It's the implicit that bothers me so much, not the explicit. It is what the author seems to feel doesn't need to be explained, because they believe it to be obvious. Let's think for a moment: what is a demon? It's essentially defined in the game: the enemy of mankind, all that is wrong, evil, immoral, dangerous. What is it that the demons are known for in this game? Sex. Yes, they rape, if you pay any attention you can see that the author's don't consider rape to be the problem, they consider sex itself to be immoral.

There's another premise: the women get their powers via "purity", a concept the authors do not define because, again, they think it's obvious. I don't. What the hell does that mean? Apparently it means they don't have sex. What happens when they do? They are weakened, looked down upon, and eventually snap and start slaughtering civilians. Do you see my point here? The world presented in this game considers sex itself to be immoral (somehow??), and this is not presented as an aspect of that society that is unusual. It's not explained, it's not even mentioned in itself. It's as if the authors take it for granted.

Why can't the heroines have sex? Why doesn't the game bother to explain this concept? Take a step back and think abstractly: they think they don't need to.
Nah, we aren't the ones making a mistake. You clearly haven't played the game enough to notice that girls have have consensual sex with no issue, and it can even reduce their corruption. "The world presented in game considers sex itself to be immoral" is your own incorrect assumption. You're judging the whole in game world by a small sample size: How the girls interact with the demons and some shitty people. The game even shows better moments between the girls, but you're just completely ignoring them because it doesn't fit your narrative (Or you're just entirely ignorant about that content). The girls continue to be able to fight the demons, aid humanity, and still be decent people WELL into their corruption and long after they lose their virginities. It takes almost until the end of a loop for them to really start with the "evil" actions. It's not sex that's the issue, it's demonic corruption/trauma.

The girl/demon interaction is VERY clearly a rare exception to many rules in the world, as I've already tried to explain to you. The girls are basically holy warriors fighting demons for the sake of humanities survival. You think the whole world works by the same rules? Not that you even understand the rules that they're following.

It's an H game, of course some basic shit shouldn't need to be explained if it doesn't aid in the gameplay. Most people can keep up without having everything explicitly explained to them and having their hand held for every single thing. Where is it shown that the author doesn't consider rape the problem? When the girls are raped, they suffer tremendously, to the point of hurting themselves and others. Sure seems like rape is depicted as bad. If you were expecting the demons to be punished for raping the girls, that isn't the focus of the game, not sure what the fuck you expect with that. I mean, most rapey demons/thralls are beaten or killed, so seems like things don't end too well for them huh?

You can go read the descriptions of girls in game for more evidence of everything I've been trying to tell you. The girls suffer, rape is depicted as bad, and most the girls had decent lives before the whole, being abused and raped by demons and shitty humans stuff. Here are some that should even be obvious enough for you.
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You picked the wrong game to try to attack for this shit lol. Almost any other rape game would have been a better pick for what you're trying to do here. This game handles rape/corruption way better than most. You want to complain about games depicting women/sex/rape poorly? Go find any of the games that show women turning into animals that can't live without dicks after 5 seconds of rape.
 
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The implicit assumptions within this game still enrage me on a profound level. To summarize the apparent beliefs of the authors, sex is so inherently evil and women so inherently weak that women who have sex, even consequentially, are irreversibly damaged, badly enough to nearly drop their value as people to zero.
Welcome back!

You were on this same trip back in February. No one agreed with you then, including the developer, and you made a point of discounting all the textual evidence that doesn't agree with your interpretation of the developer's worldview. There's nothing wrong with that, this is a porn game site that explicitly caters to strange fetishes and doesn't allow kinkshaming, so keep on being you!

You also don't seem to have brought anything new to the table in the past.... 6 months... of stewing about this game.

Rate the game a 1 and move on, maybe? Or, you know, keep posting here until the developer accepts your One Revealed Truth about their intentions. Maybe that'll work?
 

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Both of you have made the same mistake. It's the implicit that bothers me so much, not the explicit. It is what the author seems to feel doesn't need to be explained, because they believe it to be obvious. Let's think for a moment: what is a demon? It's essentially defined in the game: the enemy of mankind, all that is wrong, evil, immoral, dangerous. What is it that the demons are known for in this game? Sex. Yes, they rape, if you pay any attention you can see that the author's don't consider rape to be the problem, they consider sex itself to be immoral.

There's another premise: the women get their powers via "purity", a concept the authors do not define because, again, they think it's obvious. I don't. What the hell does that mean? Apparently it means they don't have sex. What happens when they do? They are weakened, looked down upon, and eventually snap and start slaughtering civilians. Do you see my point here? The world presented in this game considers sex itself to be immoral (somehow??), and this is not presented as an aspect of that society that is unusual. It's not explained, it's not even mentioned in itself. It's as if the authors take it for granted.

Why can't the heroines have sex? Why doesn't the game bother to explain this concept? Take a step back and think abstractly: they think they don't need to.
Just for a bit of context here, do you not live in the west? Because from your post, I kinda feel like either you don't, or you're bizarrely ignorant when it comes to cultural ideas on sex, casual sex, un-wed sex, and purity culture just in general.
 
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The implicit assumptions within this game still enrage me on a profound level. To summarize the apparent beliefs of the authors, sex is so inherently evil and women so inherently weak that women who have sex, even consequentially, are irreversibly damaged, badly enough to nearly drop their value as people to zero.
Oh god, we got a twitter user here! Call the cancel cops!
 
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hello I'm new to this game, but i really like the concept. can someone give a link to a guide or something that explains how to play it, I'm completely lost .
 

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hello I'm new to this game, but i really like the concept. can someone give a link to a guide or something that explains how to play it, I'm completely lost .
There are several guides throughout the thread and some text files come with the game itself that explain things.
 

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I've tried this game a lot but never really had a lot of successes. Any tips or guides on how to really do things? I can get to the point where the goal is get 1k of sometihing on someone (Inury, expo, etc.) but I always seem to fall just shy of hitting that point and i can't get the chosen to ever generate more than 1 EE each. NOt sure what I'm doing wrong.
Sounds like you need to understand multipliers and how they work.

Basic guide, not quite step-by-step, but close
 
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