Yes, there are currently plans to create more distortions for the remaining vulnerability combinations, however last I heard CSdev is still brainstorming ideas for the distortions so they're a long way off from actually being added.
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Go into your Forsaken menu and open the Position option, if you want a Forsaken to use their Punisher you have to assign them to the Breeder, Hypnotist, Harvester, or Publicist Position. So if you don't have that Forsaken assigned as a Publicist they cant use the Parasitism Punisher. As a note you can only have one Forsaken assigned to a Punisher Position at a time and removing them from that Position will set their Motivation to 0 (resulting in them tantruming at the end of the day), so make sure you're only setting a Forsaken to a Punisher if you intend to keep them in that Position for a long time, as constantly changing the Positions around and dealing with tantrums is not good.
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The loop 2 warp does not need extra training days. You get those anyway because the warp condition in Loop 1 is already "end this loop really early." It's only loop 5 in the early loops that I feel in any way behind the curve, and not really even then because I usually take the Undead on.
from Animalistic using Frenzy, and that needs a high-cost Commander anyway, so why not build that at the same time you're using a Punisher Forsaken?
If you found this situation difficult, and I couldn't find a way, it's likely very few people will manage to complete a scenario like this. I understand, reading between the lines, that you are planning to make some adjustments to Splendor. I'd also suggest a more robust implementation of loop difficulty, when you feel like you can overhaul that, that takes into account that some combinations of species are more difficult than others--sometimes difficulties are multiplicative rather than additive. I gave a vibes-based overview of how difficult I thought the teams were a while ago in this thread. I don't think this particular team needs a 233% Trauma resolution and 27% Damage Mitigation to be a reasonable challenge (and yes, some of that comes from Splendor, but even 210% Trauma and 24% Damage Mitigation would be quite tough). That is of course just my opinion here. Thank you very much for the advice in getting through the loop.
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What you've gone with is is great! What I gave you was just my first thoughts on what people might want to see and compare.
I would absolutely support making both choices in Loop 3 have a Superior forsaken. It made sense that players may have wanted to delay that when Superior was top-of-the-line, but now players really need a Superior in 3 that can be trained through loop 4 to fight Animalistic or Undead in Loop 5, even if they're not warping.
The loop 2 warp does not need extra training days. You get those anyway because the warp condition in Loop 1 is already "end this loop really early." It's only loop 5 in the early loops that I feel in any way behind the curve, and not really even then because I usually take the Undead on.
Glad I didn't just try to continue with my last save then.
It's good to hear you say that. Last time I fought a Devil, it was with an Undead chosen. I quit that run sometime in the middle of the next loop after the warp I achieved, which I believe had Animalistic, Undead, Devil, and I was having a tough time making progress then and posted as such in the thread. I mostly blamed Splendor for the tough time I was having. I think any combination of Animalistic + Devil is going to be quite difficult under the current rules.
I'll admit that I may have aimed too high here with a Negotiation distortion-based plan. Last time I did this I had the item for it, and I wasn't also up against an Animalistic Forsaken as well. I rejected Aversion because I knew it would be difficult to get into the G trauma on the Animalistic chosen while staying below 100M on the Devil for the warp (because I want Splendor's motivation penalty gone as quickly as possible). An Orgy would make that difficult, while my thinking was that getting Impregnation would allow me to just raise the Angst on all of them.
This is generally a strategy I use quite a bit, especially with Temptress, who can build up quite a lot of Trauma during long surrounds. Gibberghast can do it here, as you noted, but she doesn't have the massive Trauma multiplier Temptress does. Release is powerful.
Misery is pretty stronk. INJU is its own best buff. Therefore the advanced commander for INJU is one of the last things I'm looking for in my lineup. Also there's not nearly enough need to Release to build up Punisher Effectiveness in INJU--for regular/superior chosen, they build Punisher status by Self-Destruct. Undead Chosen build it with the Seal sequence, which they can use multiple times in a fight and rises quickly when they use it. The only real need for Release comes
from Animalistic using Frenzy, and that needs a high-cost Commander anyway, so why not build that at the same time you're using a Punisher Forsaken?
Like I said, she stronk. If I continue this playthrough as I expect, I'll eventually get a better one for this job, but her job is exactly this: crack that tough INJU nut, and she does that well enough for now.
This is what I was looking for, thanks. There are definitely ideas in here I can use. Although you didn't mention the warp, which was my goal here, it seems like all one has to do for that from this point is research Impregnation and get 2-3G ANGST from Assist Raid, which there is plenty of time to do.
If you found this situation difficult, and I couldn't find a way, it's likely very few people will manage to complete a scenario like this. I understand, reading between the lines, that you are planning to make some adjustments to Splendor. I'd also suggest a more robust implementation of loop difficulty, when you feel like you can overhaul that, that takes into account that some combinations of species are more difficult than others--sometimes difficulties are multiplicative rather than additive. I gave a vibes-based overview of how difficult I thought the teams were a while ago in this thread. I don't think this particular team needs a 233% Trauma resolution and 27% Damage Mitigation to be a reasonable challenge (and yes, some of that comes from Splendor, but even 210% Trauma and 24% Damage Mitigation would be quite tough). That is of course just my opinion here. Thank you very much for the advice in getting through the loop.
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I assigned them to the position but the option still never shows up, what are the conditions to use it?
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I've been playing this quite a lot lately, this game is really amazing. I also highly appreciate @Contemplative Yearning's portraits and it inspired me to do something. So I followed the advice to have your own novelAI setup and did a portrait.
Its my first time doing anything related to AI gen, so it took me quite a bit of time for the last couple of days, although it was pretty fun. Any advice is welcome, i ran into quite a bit of issues doing these, especially consistency for the superior civilians. I've also included some unused portraits in case people prefer them or would like to do their own.
The portrait is for KDA Kaisa from league of legends. I didnt know what to do for the forsaken variations, so I didn't do anything, suggestions are welcome. So far it only has superior variation, also including civilian outfits.
Some examples of the portrait:
note: not all the superior chosen civilians look as good as this one... I wish, but I wasn't able to get good prompts for those, tried to replicate it with a couple of hacks, but no luck.
Its my first time doing anything related to AI gen, so it took me quite a bit of time for the last couple of days, although it was pretty fun. Any advice is welcome, i ran into quite a bit of issues doing these, especially consistency for the superior civilians. I've also included some unused portraits in case people prefer them or would like to do their own.
The portrait is for KDA Kaisa from league of legends. I didnt know what to do for the forsaken variations, so I didn't do anything, suggestions are welcome. So far it only has superior variation, also including civilian outfits.
Some examples of the portrait:
note: not all the superior chosen civilians look as good as this one... I wish, but I wasn't able to get good prompts for those, tried to replicate it with a couple of hacks, but no luck.
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Using Punishers from a Forsaken has 2 requirements, a corruption requirement and the usual Punisher % requirement. The corruption requirement should already be met since you cant even put the Forsaken in a Punisher Position if you don't meet the corruption requirement. As for the % requirement, what percent is Parasitism at, cause by default you cant use Punishers unless they're at 1000% for that Punisher (requirement is decreased with Punisher achievements and traits). Alternatively if you look at the T4 column when looking at the Chosen's vulnerability, if there is a "[/]" for the T4 Break that means any Commander or Forsaken with that Punisher equipped (without having any trait that lowers the requirement) can break the vulnerability, or if there is a "[?]" for the break that means there is a Forsaken with a Punisher trait the lowers the break requirement that is able to do the break.
Ohh! that must be it, I thought the question mark meant my currently selected publicist could do it but it looks like it was a different Forsaken. Thanks!
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I've done superior and superior civilian portraits for Silence from the patience pack. I'm not especially happy with the way the superior armor turned out. But I really liked the idea of suit/business attire for her civilian clothes. Just place the .zip into the Superior folder for Silent.
Also included a neutral expression for her forsaken superior civilian outfit, but its mostly because I liked the picture and wanted to save it as a possible future option.
This is probably a dumb question but how do you defeat a chosen? I can dominate the combat but then I lose the round regardless.
I am trying to capture the chosen to add them to my forsaken but I have no luck.
I am trying to capture the chosen to add them to my forsaken but I have no luck.
You need to make chosen surrender to you during the final showdown (by bringing their resolve down).
To make particular chosen's resolve vulnerable, one needs at least one "total" (Tier 4) vulnerability break or active distortion. Then chosen's resolve can be damaged by corresponding basic attacks (with their endgame upgrades purchased) or by fulfilling the distortion's special condition during final battle.
What is distortion? I do not even know the basics.
I do not see the direct connection between MOR INN CON and DIG and the specific actions (Hate / Plea / Inju / Expo). Nor do I quite understand what I need to do to advance the / to an X.
Also, I have a hard time keeping them alive on the final round. They kill each other. Is there a way to influence that?
Is there a walkthrough that explain the mechanics?
Don't worry too much about Distortions yet. They're an alternative method of corrupting Chosen which involves breaking only certain vulnerabilities that must be started early on in a loop, they're not relevant to your current situation.
For T4 breaks, you have to bring their susceptibility% to at least 1000 (this puts the slash in the box), then capture that Chosen with a Punisher Commander of the appropriate type - MOR goes with HATE, INN goes with PLEA, CON goes with INJU, and DIG goes with EXPO.
Chosen's willingness to kill each other depends on their corruption levels and relationships, but the most reliable way to avoid it is to make sure that they don't get a free turn after Extermination ends in the Final Battle.
The file guide.txt included with the game explains in somewhat more detail (and also describes Distortions, if you want to try them in a future loop/playthrough).
(I'll also add that I've never tried going for a T4/Total Break *during* the Final Battle. Not sure if that works to let you damage Resolve with the appropriate action).
For T4 breaks, you have to bring their susceptibility% to at least 1000 (this puts the slash in the box), then capture that Chosen with a Punisher Commander of the appropriate type - MOR goes with HATE, INN goes with PLEA, CON goes with INJU, and DIG goes with EXPO.
Chosen's willingness to kill each other depends on their corruption levels and relationships, but the most reliable way to avoid it is to make sure that they don't get a free turn after Extermination ends in the Final Battle.
The file guide.txt included with the game explains in somewhat more detail (and also describes Distortions, if you want to try them in a future loop/playthrough).
(I'll also add that I've never tried going for a T4/Total Break *during* the Final Battle. Not sure if that works to let you damage Resolve with the appropriate action).
No. Only the opposite - forcing it immediately, by purchasing the "imago quickening" upgrade.
I didn't played with cheats and cannot tell for sure, but there might be a cheat for that.
Yesn't, there is no cheat to set the Final Battle to a latter date but there is a cheat to change what Day it is while retaining the current stats of the Chosen. So you can effectively delay the Final Battle by using the cheat to jump back to an earlier Day.
So decided to play again and got the "Greater sins imminent" thing again. Was wondering what are the conditions for it since it seems to happen way too often for me. Even if I do an orgy they decide to do a common 2 energy action. It's fine in early but would be annoying to deal with in lower days run especially against undead chosen.
Btw first image and the second/third image are the same days played differently. The fourth one is 1 day after an orgy.
Btw first image and the second/third image are the same days played differently. The fourth one is 1 day after an orgy.
Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware the downtime/trauma resolution activities is one of the few systems in the game we have no significant information on so everything we do know about it is really just guesses. So while we know there is a reason that Chosen will sit on Greater Sins Imminent doing group activities of a lower tier instead of doing their new higher tier of EE generation, we have no idea what that reason actually is. Presumably though the closer the Chosen are to each other the more likely they are to choose group activities, for example I assume Triumph and Paladin are on friendly terms in those screenshots? Though all we really know is that Chosen will never choose a trauma resolution activity that is more than 1 tier below their highest tier of trauma resolution.
Went through a new save file with cheats enabled to see how it feels while still keeping the difficulty increases. I'm wondering if I'd need to grind out Strength's angst a bit more before I attempt the final battle. The save is the most recent one
Yes, there is a guide shipped with the game called guide.txtWhat is distortion? I do not even know the basics.
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I do not see the direct connection between MOR INN CON and DIG and the specific actions (Hate / Plea / Inju / Expo). Nor do I quite understand what I need to do to advance the / to an X.
Also, I have a hard time keeping them alive on the final round. They kill each other. Is there a way to influence that?
Is there a walkthrough that explain the mechanics?
CSdev Crash report in 49d:
Steps to reproduce:
Steps to reproduce:
Load save "victoryofasorts"
"Pass Time" twice
Click "Next City"-->crash before the buttons show up
Pretty sure because of the text I see that it's some logic handling the warp that causes a crash. Not sure why. I remember that previously the Loop 11 warp was fine, but probably something to do with the new logic. Here's what I see--notice it cuts off before the third option that should be there.
