Kackuyen

Newbie
Nov 12, 2018
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Is there any benefit or fun reason to make the forsaken close friends instead of enemies outside of it being easier? Wasn't sure if it makes the personalities interesting or if there are any benefits when they become forsaken.
Friendly Fosakens give eachother boost to training Consent.
Friendly Forsaken when attacking Choosen friend that survive the final fight and move onto future loop gain 50% DMG buff and have 8 Capture turns.
 

SuperSkippy

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What do you recommend going after next? I'm struggling a bit as Purity is super hard to break anything on.
Based on my guess here, they're only giving you 2EE per day. You want to get that to 5EE. Vassal's going to be the easiest for that as what she needs is a long Inseminate. Purity will likely be harder to convert to that level because her first Inseminate is very unlikely to be a long one, but after doing it once you should find you do a lot more damage to that circumstance and you can get more significant surrounds the next times. Calamity will require a couple uses of Force Orgasm on to get there. You may want to break Purity's T2 INN first to get the extra EE from an unfriendly break scene.

I imagine you'll need a 5 turn/2 capture commander to break Purity, so that requires Intelligence (or Tomorrow's Newspaper, I don't know your item choice but I suspect you have Schwerer Gusion). You'll also want some combination of Human Collaborators (required for Networked Consciousness anyway) and Nursery Hives (not required for NC, but only 5EE) for longer fights. You want to be sure you are able to get a third Surround on the Chosen you're targeting for a break.

if you want more detailed help, post a save.
 

wibblywarble

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Aug 3, 2018
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Is there a way to edit the outfits of chosen/forsaken at any point after the campaign starts? I would like to change a few things personally.

On top of that, I noticed they tend to wear the exact same outfit as all the other chosen during downtown it seems like (mesh top and microskirt), Can you change that as well manually?
 

wibblywarble

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Aug 3, 2018
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I made some custom portraits I wanted to share for anyone who wants them! I really like how they turned out, let me know what you think! If I'm supposed to upload them a different way please let me know, but here's the MEGA link with them and some example pictures (they all have the full range of emotions, the link just shows examples):



 

McHuman

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Nov 8, 2019
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Is there a way to edit the outfits of chosen/forsaken at any point after the campaign starts? I would like to change a few things personally.

On top of that, I noticed they tend to wear the exact same outfit as all the other chosen during downtown it seems like (mesh top and microskirt), Can you change that as well manually?
No, as far as I'm aware when you start a campaign it uses your Chosen Roster from when you started, so no changes after that point would effect the ongoing campaign.

Nor do I think you can change the outfit for approach/observe scenes, as those are kinda pure fluff with no gameplay importance so they're kinda neglected.
 

wibblywarble

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Aug 3, 2018
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I can't figure out how to get my forsaken to use their punisher. I gave a chosen the drain punisher position, and I even unlocked the drain upgrade, but the option to drain never shows up when I capture a chosen. Also I've noticed forsaken become almost completely ineffective when detonation unlocks because they just get detonated as soon as they grab someone, unless I'm missing something.

EDIT: Also, does the relentlessness upgrade allow forsaken to capture flying chosen?
 

wibblywarble

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Sorry I know I just posted something, but this suddenly showed up and I've never seen this before. What's with the question mark?
 

McHuman

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Nov 8, 2019
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I can't figure out how to get my forsaken to use their punisher. I gave a chosen the drain punisher position, and I even unlocked the drain upgrade, but the option to drain never shows up when I capture a chosen. Also I've noticed forsaken become almost completely ineffective when detonation unlocks because they just get detonated as soon as they grab someone, unless I'm missing something.

EDIT: Also, does the relentlessness upgrade allow forsaken to capture flying chosen?
What percent is the T4 break at, I assume less than 1000% based on your second post? Cause the Punisher option will only appear if the Forsaken can actually T4 break the captured Chosen (default of 1000%, but goes down with achievements and certain punisher positions).

As for Detonate, it effectively reduces Capture duration by 1+INJU level. So since Forsaken tend to capture at around 6-8 turns, a Chosen with INJU at level 5-7 will instantly break free from their captures. So they still work fine early in a battle while INJU level is still low, but later in the battle they'll just escape instantly.

Relentlessness does not let Forsaken capture flying Chosen.

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Sorry I know I just posted something, but this suddenly showed up and I've never seen this before. What's with the question mark?
The "?" for T4 Vulnerabilities indicates that you have a Forsaken with a Punisher Position that can perform a T4 Break even though you haven't reached the percentage needed to break it with a Commander. In this case you have a Forsaken with Underhanded Publicist who can Break Moppet's T4 DIG.
 

wibblywarble

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Aug 3, 2018
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What percent is the T4 break at, I assume less than 1000% based on your second post? Cause the Punisher option will only appear if the Forsaken can actually T4 break the captured Chosen (default of 1000%, but goes down with achievements and certain punisher positions).

As for Detonate, it effectively reduces Capture duration by 1+INJU level. So since Forsaken tend to capture at around 6-8 turns, a Chosen with INJU at level 5-7 will instantly break free from their captures. So they still work fine early in a battle while INJU level is still low, but later in the battle they'll just escape instantly.

Relentlessness does not let Forsaken capture flying Chosen.



The "?" for T4 Vulnerabilities indicates that you have a Forsaken with a Punisher Position that can perform a T4 Break even though you haven't reached the percentage needed to break it with a Commander. In this case you have a Forsaken with Underhanded Publicist who can Break Moppet's T4 DIG.

Awesome thanks! By the way, do you know if there's anyway to export your forsaken so you can play around with them in the single run mode?
 

McHuman

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Nov 8, 2019
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Awesome thanks! By the way, do you know if there's anyway to export your forsaken so you can play around with them in the single run mode?
Unfortunately I don't use Single Play mode unless it's to test stuff, so I wouldn't know if that's possible or not.
 

Name36346

Newbie
Oct 27, 2021
96
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Awesome thanks! By the way, do you know if there's anyway to export your forsaken so you can play around with them in the single run mode?
This supposed to happen automatically once campaign ends. Forsakens in active campaigns are isolated, because in singular mode you can endlessly train your servants "offscreen".
 

SuperSkippy

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Oct 25, 2017
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New patch up:

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Changelog
  • Content: Added a new Day 15 intermission (guaranteed to appear in Loop 3 of campaign mode).
  • Content: Added a new vignette.
  • Content: Added ten new pieces of civilian clothing which can be selected by Chosen and Forsaken.
  • Content: Added support for Forsaken tools to have their own associated dialogue (with some dialogue for the breast expansion tool).
  • Balance: When a warp has been unlocked for a loop which offers items, the city choices' items may be picked even when choosing to warp.
  • Balance: Offspring of Forsaken will now tend to belong to the species of the higher-tier parent.
  • Interface: Added a Forsaken status and prediction summary to the Forsaken selection screen.
  • Interface: When the only Defilers available are those that would break a Distortion, the Chosen selection button is colored red instead of yellow.
  • Interface: Current Animalistic weaknesses are displayed on the team Vulnerability summary screen.
  • Interface: Chosen profiles now display the Forsaken tool unlock conditions they've fulfilled.
  • Interface: The Forsaken Positions screen is now a bit more clear about how they work.
  • Interface: When changing the species of a campaign custom Chosen with a non-default alias, customization details will be retained.
  • Interface: Forsaken in Punisher positions will display their Punisher abilities in their own profile.
  • Bugfix: The shop screen and button selection no longer fails to account for Tomorrow's Newspaper refunds until refreshed.
  • Other: Forsaken are now less random about using their equipped tools.
  • Other: Added information about initial Forsaken corruption to the Forsaken reference file.
  • Other: Forsaken corruption passive training can now be set to stop automatically at a target value.
 
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sorcan

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Jul 14, 2017
28
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I've tried this game a few times but I have no idea what I'm doing, I don't even know if I'm making progress... Seriously I tried searching for a walkthrough or a guide but the file provided didn't import, or I'm doing it wrong.

Could someone give me an explanation of what I'm supposed to do. Should I focus on minor, significant or core vulnerabilities first? Hate seems to be the "best" stat as that seems to amplify all the other stats gain, or am I thinking wrong about this?

Also what is the determining factor for how much damage I'm doing, it doesn't seems to be just connected to what level of vulnerability it was. Should I try to get a girl surrounded as quickly as possible, or should I try to target multiple stats so make the surround last as long as possible?

What stats should I focus on when I surround a girl? Or does that depend on what vulnerability she has? Also is there list anywhere of what effect different stats have? Exposure seems to affect a girls Shame but also has an effect on the other girls. Hate seems so just strait up affect every stat?
 

SuperSkippy

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Oct 25, 2017
243
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I've tried this game a few times but I have no idea what I'm doing, I don't even know if I'm making progress... Seriously I tried searching for a walkthrough or a guide but the file provided didn't import, or I'm doing it wrong.

Could someone give me an explanation of what I'm supposed to do. Should I focus on minor, significant or core vulnerabilities first? Hate seems to be the "best" stat as that seems to amplify all the other stats gain, or am I thinking wrong about this?

Also what is the determining factor for how much damage I'm doing, it doesn't seems to be just connected to what level of vulnerability it was. Should I try to get a girl surrounded as quickly as possible, or should I try to target multiple stats so make the surround last as long as possible?

What stats should I focus on when I surround a girl? Or does that depend on what vulnerability she has? Also is there list anywhere of what effect different stats have? Exposure seems to affect a girls Shame but also has an effect on the other girls. Hate seems so just strait up affect every stat?
If you're earning breaks, you're making progress. If you aren't earning breaks, you aren't. With that said, you won't be making much progress the first 9 days or so (don't worry if it takes you a few days longer than that). During that time, as long as you're getting 1EE from each Chosen each day, you're doing fine. 1EE requires only 200 Trauma of the same type. During this time, you probably shouldn't use EE on summoning Commanders. It's possible to use a Commander and come out energy-positive during this phase, but it kind of requires knowing what you're doing in a way a new player won't.

Your ability to progress depends on setting up long surrounds where you're hitting all 4 circumstances and traumas. Basically, this happens when you can summon a Commander with at least 4 turns and 2 captures (costing 5EE, hence the green guide text). Until then, continue collecting EE and buying all the 1-2EE upgrades.

Once you've got the ability to summon a 5EE commander, you'll need to understand how to actually play the game. There are lost of posts here about how to understand multipliers so you can get T1 and T2 breaks. Here's mine. Others will probably be along to link theirs--this is a friendly thread and there's been lots of advice posted.
 

TheFakeOne23

Newbie
Feb 9, 2020
40
10
Does "unlocking", aka removing pair-up restrictions, a lot of custom chosen for a campaign run increase the odds of crashes? Because so far every time I´ve tried, the game´s frozen, crashed or otherwise messed up after a few ingame days, including saves becoming unplayable/breaking at the same point repeatedly.
Not tried with the new version yet, just 48b
 
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McHuman

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Nov 8, 2019
369
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I've tried this game a few times but I have no idea what I'm doing, I don't even know if I'm making progress... Seriously I tried searching for a walkthrough or a guide but the file provided didn't import, or I'm doing it wrong.

Could someone give me an explanation of what I'm supposed to do. Should I focus on minor, significant or core vulnerabilities first? Hate seems to be the "best" stat as that seems to amplify all the other stats gain, or am I thinking wrong about this?

Also what is the determining factor for how much damage I'm doing, it doesn't seems to be just connected to what level of vulnerability it was. Should I try to get a girl surrounded as quickly as possible, or should I try to target multiple stats so make the surround last as long as possible?

What stats should I focus on when I surround a girl? Or does that depend on what vulnerability she has? Also is there list anywhere of what effect different stats have? Exposure seems to affect a girls Shame but also has an effect on the other girls. Hate seems so just strait up affect every stat?
I wrote 3 guides that might help you:

General early game guide

Basic mechanics/stats/modifier guide

Very basic loop 1 item pick comparison
 

McHuman

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Nov 8, 2019
369
211
Does "unlocking", aka removing pair-up restrictions, a lot of custom chosen for a campaign run increase the odds of crashes? Because so far every time I´ve tried, the game´s frozen, crashed or otherwise messed up after a few ingame days, including saves becoming unplayable/breaking at the same point repeatedly.
Not tried with the new version yet, just 48b
I'd recommend posting one (or more) of these saves here so someone can look at it and see if they can figure out what's wrong. Personally though I've never messed around with that setting so I have no experience with it myself, but considering the game isn't really designed with that setting in mind it's possible that the problem is that for some reason a relationship scene is trying to play or something even though they aren't supposed to causing a crash. Granted that's just a guess on my part and we cant really say for certain without more information or access to the save file.
 
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