Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 58] [CSDev]

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

Is there any good way to get all of them onto a 10 round orgy?

Really depends on the team composition. There isn't one easy way.
Probably easiest with a commander that can do 3/4 captures. Try to give them as little time as possible to eliminate demons, so it generally is easiest with a regular commander (though I've also done it with a commander that damages 3 circumstances by having suppressor + defiler).
Trial and error and trying to be efficient with your actions. Save, experiment, load. Read how circumstances affect trauma and each other.

 

[frankensteiner316]

Really depends on the team composition. There isn't one easy way.
Probably easiest with a commander that can do 3/4 captures. Try to give them as little time as possible to eliminate demons, so it generally is easiest with a regular commander (though I've also done it with a commander that damages 3 circumstances by having suppressor + defiler).
Trial and error and trying to be efficient with your actions. Save, experiment, load. Read how circumstances affect trauma and each other.

thanks but it fucked itself up the girl got a dignity break during a fucking post battle scene so it doesnt matter. One more question tho how to trigger the defiler tempt ation from temptation disortion? Ive been capturing the bitch non stop for days and she got 100k pleasure and its not there

 

[haksaw]

She needs to have 100k while out of surround and if you capture her again you should get an option. But dev really should somehow point out that distortions are hard mode and you shouldn't go for them for the first playthrough. I saw a lot of ppl in the thread struggle because they try to do distortions without understanding base game mechanics.

 

[frankensteiner316]

She needs to have 100k while out of surround and if you capture her again you should get an option. But dev really should somehow point out that distortions are hard mode and you shouldn't go for them for the first playthrough. I saw a lot of ppl in the thread struggle because they try to do distortions without understanding base game mechanics.

i mean the mechanics are jumbled garbage at best, but the distortions have a hint system so on my first completed playthrough (ive tried this game like 50 times before and got bored within 15 minutes) i got two of them to work. It just wasnt worded too well and i thought i have to capture her and such but it turned out its a surround option to do the tempt thing.

 

[Sinistrem]

Are there difficulty settings in campaign? Or only in the single play?

Also how exactly does campaign work? Is it like roguelite where you get stronger whether you win or lose? Or is it like a win streak mode where you keep playing until you lose?

I want to play campaign since forsaken sound fun, but I'm trash so no casual difficulty =

 

[frankensteiner316]

Are there difficulty settings in campaign? Or only in the single play?

Also how exactly does campaign work? Is it like roguelite where you get stronger whether you win or lose? Or is it like a win streak mode where you keep playing until you lose?

I want to play campaign since forsaken sound fun, but I'm trash so no casual difficulty =

just cheat its actually pretty fun if you buff yourself up and do whatever the fuck you want to. And no if you lose its over i think? Maybe my game was broken but when i lost i only had the menu button to click and clicking it didnt do anything. And you have to recheat everything in every loop, it takes away all your shit

 

[eidalac]

ATM no difficultly settings for campaign.

Campaign plays like the single play but each time you win the final battle you can move on to a new city with new chosen, and get an new item in the current release.

Research resets each time, but you can get achievements that help a bit as well as items over time.

You also get to convert any chosen that survived to Forsaken, which have there own stuff but also act as special commanders as well.

After a few loops you will start to get stronger chosen as well, I don't know how strong they get myself.

 

[Belgaz]

Weeeelllllll... shit. apparently you can do too good, i actually didn't know this was a thing lol

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

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Weeeelllllll... shit. apparently you can do too good, i actually didn't know this was a thing lol

Only when trying to do distortions... which isn't recommended for your first one or two runs.

 

[haksaw]

so on my first completed playthrough (ive tried this game like 50 times before and got bored within 15 minutes) i got two of them to work

Of course you can make them work, it's just little to gain here. Distortions don't add much, I would say they even take away. Some group scenes become boring with distorted girls, you also won't see their break events for vulns you have to avoid for distortion. And forsaken are still pretty useless, so getting better ones don't change much. So you will get less fun going for distortions imo.

 

[Advert]

this game is way too complicated to get into lol. its hearts of iron but for fapping

 

[Eski]

Revisiting this game after a while and started a new campaign and decided to go for Distortions this time after never bothering with them. It certainly was a change of pace compared to playing the game "vanilla" but it threw off my groove so I could only manage to get one (tempted) Forsaken in my first loop. A couple questions that came up while I was playing.

1) Is it possible to go for Aversion and Temptation on the same Chosen group? One of the requirements for Aversion is a 10-turn orgy, but how can that happen if one of the other Chosen is on Temptation? Temptation avoids Morality/Confidence but Aversion avoids the exact opposite, Innocence/Dignity. How can either of these characters participate in an orgy with one another without breaking an "illegal" vulnerability for one of them? Somehow it's possible since the vignette checklist txt has an event between a Tempted and Averted Chosen but I have no idea how.

2) I'm guessing Chosen with pre-broken vulnerabilities are straight up ineligible for some Distortion paths? Like I can't do Negotiation with a Chosen with pre-broken Morality or Dignity?

3) I never bothered with the Forsaken system because it seemed too complicated for me to process on top of an already complex game. But I'll give it a shot this time. Any advice for how to play with my new Forsaken (See attached screenshot)? I'm guessing since she was tempted I should focus on Pleasure/Exposure. Is that basically it?

4) Whenever I play I feel like every day is precious and I rarely find it worth it to spend a day training Forsaken. So when do you guys do it? I'm guessing you should do it on days where you're just stockpiling energy?

5) This Forsaken is fucking expensive. It's like 100+ energy. Even if I have enough energy to deploy her, I don't know how to use Forsaken well and end up performing less well than if I used a regular commander. Honestly they feel like really expensive Suppressors in my hands. When do you guys deploy your Forsaken and how do you use them?

6) It looks like I can put my sole Forsaken in every single position she's eligible for. Is there any downside to doing this? I know according to the guide if I take her out of a Punisher position their Motivation goes down to 0, but idk how big of a punishment that is.

7) Can I impregnate Forsaken during the "Meet" scenes?

 

[haksaw]

How can either of these characters participate in an orgy with one another without breaking an "illegal" vulnerability for one of them?

For distortion you actually need to avoid a single vuln break. Because it allows secondary vuln to be T1, and T2 break requires specific defiler action, which is easily avoidable. So temptation avoid MOR, and aversion avoid INN. The catch is, joining defiler+ or orgy doesn't count as breaking action. In this instance I would go for Sodomize based orgy, since morality and confidence both raise circ dmg so you have a good chance reaching 10k CON in a single surround with Temptation chosen. I would go like this - start with a girl who doesn't have broken T3s and not your Tempt chosen, usually that would be Aversion one. Go all out on her to get as many openings as possible, then leave alone. Since she doesn't have broken T3s she won't bother you much. Then work on 2 other girls together, start Sodomize with ordinary chosen, then join with both aversions.

So when do you guys do it?

After the final battle. If you finish at day 30-35, you will have 10+ days to train them.

When do you guys deploy your Forsaken

When I want to waste a day and fool around They are useless. Well, you can buff your future forsaken by breaking chosen's T4 with forsaken, so there's that.

 

[rixadair]

I found a bug with the save files.

When adding a forsaken from the main menu, the size of saves.sav increases by 2KB, and drops by 2KB when the forsaken is deleted. (This is expected)

Meeting with a forsaken causes the file to grow by a little more than 2KB per turn of the meeting. This extra data does not go away if the forsaken is deleted.

Even if saving large amounts of data from these meetings is intentional, it should not be left behind when the forsaken is deleted.

In my test, my save file was 329KB after creating a forsaken from the main menu.
I met with her from that menu for varying lengths of time. (Using the "wait" action every turn) The file grew to 500KB.
After deleting the forsaken. The save file was 498KB.

As the save file grows in size, it increases loading delays in various menus.

 

[eidalac]

1) Is it possible to go for Aversion and Temptation on the same Chosen group?

Yes, orgy is special in that it doesn't break vuln.

2) I'm guessing Chosen with pre-broken vulnerabilities are straight up ineligible for some Distortion paths?

They can be, yeah. Might still work if it's only a T1 break but not sure on that, but when you pick a distortion path it will list all the ones that are valid.

Any advice for how to play with my new Forsaken (See attached screenshot)?

From my limited playing, they are good at dealing a large amount of damage, but are expensive as hell and you can't directly control them. ATM the only real use I see for them is building a very large amount of damage. They also can't seem to hit flying choosen, so in general a normal commander is going to be better.

4) Whenever I play I feel like every day is precious and I rarely find it worth it to spend a day training Forsaken.

I've only taken the time when I have a chosen I'm doing a negotiation with.

5) This Forsaken is fucking expensive.

That should be based on the Disgrace score. Low disgrace = more damage but higher cost.

6) It looks like I can put my sole Forsaken in every single position she's eligible for.

Seems like most of them match up to to a specific vuln break, so ideally you want to match them to a forsaken that uses that break as well - but since it's generally better to do a commander for that it doesn't amount to much ATM.

Removing any form a position sets motivation to 0, meaning you can't deploy them till that recovers. Again, not a loss ATM.

7) Can I impregnate Forsaken during the "Meet" scenes?

Not sure. You can in some of the training events, but it's just a minion and has no game-play result I've seen.

 

[alex2011]

In talking to CSDev, I found out my issue was my own error. I made a newbie mistake thinking commanders could be kept if I skipped a battle and I was incorrect.

So now I am trying to get their sexual barriers down to get further in the back alley. I got five different options in a single battle coming up colored instead of the normal grey, which would I want to go for to get this result? I had the barriers down on all three with a more expo plea focused commander in one battle, but the target chosen did not seem to be reacting like I want. Before this, even as early as when I first started this save, the other two were practically begging for it or showing a lack of resistance, but the target has been showing she doesn't want and won't resign herself to being pleasured let alone any further in the back alley even after dealing enough hate to get her barrier down.

I can use inseminate for a morality break
I can use broadcast for a dignity break
I can use force orgasm for an innocence break
I also have tempt for a morality/confidence distortion

 

[Sonsuka]

One thing I’m noticed not talked about forsaken is that high EE ones are really just made for the end fight with trait that affect the end fight orrr they are just role buffer in your “cabinet”. Higher EE meanshigher % for their perk/trait. Lower EE can be useful early on with distortion with 8 EE cost. More importantly there are some perks/trait on some forsaken that when you T4 break chosen become better when they become Forsaken like higher morale or do more damage for certain type of trauma or they could just lower the % needed to T4 break to get the day even more faster. Someone else did noted this but rather just give the “what” future bufdfs are.

 

[Sonsuka]

In talking to CSDev, I found out my issue was my own error. I made a newbie mistake thinking commanders could be kept if I skipped a battle and I was incorrect.

So now I am trying to get their sexual barriers down to get further in the back alley. I got five different options in a single battle coming up colored instead of the normal grey, which would I want to go for to get this result? I had the barriers down on all three with a more expo plea focused commander in one battle, but the target chosen did not seem to be reacting like I want. Before this, even as early as when I first started this save, the other two were practically begging for it or showing a lack of resistance, but the target has been showing she doesn't want and won't resign herself to being pleasured let alone any further in the back alley even after dealing enough hate to get her barrier down.

I can use inseminate for a morality break
I can use broadcast for a dignity break
I can use force orgasm for an innocence break
I also have tempt for a morality/confidence distortion

Sorry maybe its just an early morning brain, but “back alley” like I understand your saying 1 person is resisting and rest aren’t can you post a screenshot with the trauma and other number during fight because there could be many reasons.

 

[Sonsuka]

Are there difficulty settings in campaign? Or only in the single play?

Also how exactly does campaign work? Is it like roguelite where you get stronger whether you win or lose? Or is it like a win streak mode where you keep playing until you lose?

I want to play campaign since forsaken sound fun, but I'm trash so no casual difficulty =

Winstreak. Choose three city after a win. and every next area gets harder and has some modifier change.

 

[alex2011]

Sorry maybe its just an early morning brain, but “back alley” like I understand your saying 1 person is resisting and rest aren’t can you post a screenshot with the trauma and other number during fight because there could be many reasons.

What I mean by back alley is approaching them from the info screen. As for the numbers, I don't have the exact same ones I had when I commented, but I did run it again from that point.

The following highlighted section in the middle of the page is the target chosen. This is at point before I used tempt. I first tried with forced orgasm to break innoncence, then tempt for the distortion, both of which failed to get her to accept me doing things to her in the approach in the back alley.

Also note that I did use inseminate on this run, though I will not be going that route if I can avoid it as I am looking to keep her virginity.