Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 58] [CSDev]
It kinda reminds me of PoP.
You start learning so that you can get lewds, but by the time you get there you are having too much fun with actual gameplay to bother fapping
You start learning so that you can get lewds, but by the time you get there you are having too much fun with actual gameplay to bother fapping
Fair yeah forsaken are kinda useless but fun to have as a flavor i guess? But yeah distortions dont do much fun in the scenes department. Im still getting into this game so im just trying shit out.
Is this a bug?
Both Freedom and Axiom have the same trauma levels, 10 in each, but they have different opening levels.
First of all, just wanted to say thank you so much CSDev for the game, it's incredibly amazing in so many ways, love it very much. Questions i have is
1) What personality attribute makes a chosen "Compassionate"?
2) What personality attribute makes a chosen "Rational"?
3) This one's for CSDev, if they feel like answering it of course, feel free to skip it. Any plans for making it possible to allowing the demon lord to impregnate the forsaken (or chosen) during the meet scenes?
Thank you!
1) What personality attribute makes a chosen "Compassionate"?
2) What personality attribute makes a chosen "Rational"?
3) This one's for CSDev, if they feel like answering it of course, feel free to skip it. Any plans for making it possible to allowing the demon lord to impregnate the forsaken (or chosen) during the meet scenes?
Thank you!
No, because the max opening level caused by DISG is half the Defense level. So Axiom is getting an extra opening level from DISG when compared to Freedom.
Did that change? I seem to remember the DISG opening level being half the DISG level. Not DISG limited by half defense.
Any advice on what I should do once the chosen start using tactics? I've been having moderate success breaking some vulnerabilities with a beefy commander, but once they have some of them broken they seem to be taking barely any damage, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do now.
I.e. if I want to break 1 last t2 vulnerability, how am I supposed to do that? If I only target it I can't get enough circumstance damage since I lack multipliers from other circumstances. If I try to just use all 4 and hope for the best I can't get enough damage because the chosen has all 4 tactics active.
Also how much damage reduction do the tactics provide?
I.e. if I want to break 1 last t2 vulnerability, how am I supposed to do that? If I only target it I can't get enough circumstance damage since I lack multipliers from other circumstances. If I try to just use all 4 and hope for the best I can't get enough damage because the chosen has all 4 tactics active.
Also how much damage reduction do the tactics provide?
Just keep them surrounded at all times. You should have 3 capture commander by that point.
Well I generally go start with commander - surround - capture with commander again - surround again, also doing 1-2 turn captures of other chosen in between to enable fear / get expo multi. By that time, extermination is complete, and even if I had a 3d capture I wouldn't be able to deploy it.
No, you never capture the same girl with commader twice. Usually you should go like - start with commander, 2nd girl apper - capture her with commander, surround 1st girl, 3rd girl appears - capture her with commander, surround 2nd girl and so on, keep surrounding girls once they escape. Ideally you should have no girls running free - they are fighting and ending the fight too fast. Also you don't use upgareded commanders unless you need smth specific.
- Dec 13, 2017
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So I've tried a few times and i'm still one of those people that don't 'get it'.
I followed the guide posted earlier.
I started with the 10k INJU item. I used it day 2 to force a t2 break on girl 1. (Prayer)
I mostly attacked generating trauma and built up EE till day 13.
So here I am on day 13, with a 2x4 commander and I cannot seem to get anywhere near 10k.
So here's what i'm working with. Overall their trauma vulnerabilities are fairly low, with Prayer resistant to shame and Hate mostly, with a dab of pleasure. Pain resistant mainly to disgust and injury. and Honey easily traumatized but with very good resistance to circumstance damage.
So my thought process was to mostly leave Honey alone, leaving her for last. Between Prayer and Pain, Prayer has a higher vulnerability to exposure, so I figured by targetting her first, her high exposure could help the multipliers on Pain.
Except, try as I might I can't seem to get anywhere near 10k. I can capture Prayer early, then when Pain comes in, capture her and surround prayer. But by the end of this surround I'm out of turns. I could spend a few turns setting the capture on Pain, then surround Prayer, but usually by then the extermination has started and I can't get another surround on Prayer.
Maybe it's not even possible to hit 10k given my current setup. Or maybe i'm just playing wrong. Would it be better to try and break Honey's lower tier vulnerabilities? I also understand that unresolved trauma builds up base damage, but i'm unclear as to how helpful that actually is in the long run.
I'll include the save if anyone wants to take a crack at it, I enabled cheats because after 3 games of 40-45 days and not breaking a single vuln I decided I needed some more help, but I havn't used them and would like to avoid it, this as much progress as I feel i've made.
(Also if there's a way to pull a single save IDK how, so I just deleted the excess so it's the only save here.)
EDIT: For further clarifaction, I have all of the upgrades listed in the aforementioned guide: " Psychic Reading, Wide Deployment, Fast Breeders, Enhanced Polymorphism, Coordinated Deployment, Focus, Eager Breeders, Weakness Sense, Perception, Cunning, Patience, Persistence"
I followed the guide posted earlier.
I started with the 10k INJU item. I used it day 2 to force a t2 break on girl 1. (Prayer)
I mostly attacked generating trauma and built up EE till day 13.
So here I am on day 13, with a 2x4 commander and I cannot seem to get anywhere near 10k.
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So my thought process was to mostly leave Honey alone, leaving her for last. Between Prayer and Pain, Prayer has a higher vulnerability to exposure, so I figured by targetting her first, her high exposure could help the multipliers on Pain.
Except, try as I might I can't seem to get anywhere near 10k. I can capture Prayer early, then when Pain comes in, capture her and surround prayer. But by the end of this surround I'm out of turns. I could spend a few turns setting the capture on Pain, then surround Prayer, but usually by then the extermination has started and I can't get another surround on Prayer.
Maybe it's not even possible to hit 10k given my current setup. Or maybe i'm just playing wrong. Would it be better to try and break Honey's lower tier vulnerabilities? I also understand that unresolved trauma builds up base damage, but i'm unclear as to how helpful that actually is in the long run.
I'll include the save if anyone wants to take a crack at it, I enabled cheats because after 3 games of 40-45 days and not breaking a single vuln I decided I needed some more help, but I havn't used them and would like to avoid it, this as much progress as I feel i've made.
(Also if there's a way to pull a single save IDK how, so I just deleted the excess so it's the only save here.)
EDIT: For further clarifaction, I have all of the upgrades listed in the aforementioned guide: " Psychic Reading, Wide Deployment, Fast Breeders, Enhanced Polymorphism, Coordinated Deployment, Focus, Eager Breeders, Weakness Sense, Perception, Cunning, Patience, Persistence"
Most of the time you should target the girl you want to work on 1st. So if you go for Pain then target her first, she's an ok target. Why would you break minor vuln on Prayer though? Should have broken her core. But anyway. Start with Pain, inju-hate-plea-expo by the looks of it, but you if you can't get enough openings on her for next surround may need to hate 1st. For Prayer try plea-inju-expo if that manages to bump plea to rank 1, if not, just expo-inju.
I managed to break T2 core avoiding annoying INN minor vuln on Pain in one go. So it's definately possible.
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- Jan 24, 2018
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Here is a bit of a puzzle, may not be solvable but I'm curious.
Day 23? Pretty much won, just have to break T4 stuff on 2 of the girls, but one is a bit of an issue
Chosen:
Spice is my first Superior Chosen and I'm doing Rampage Distortion.
Working nicely for EE generation, as I can get her to give 30 EE for rampaging plus 15 base.
Issue I'm having is Rampage triggers if Hate > Injury during a capture/surround and I can not seem to keep her Injury level up - ie if I start a surround with her at 0 hate, 3 injury and do Grind once, her hate jumps 1-2 levels every round so she's on a Rampage in 2 rounds.
This is largely due to her only being weak to Hate and very strong vs Injury.
If I avoid any hate generating actions I get really low generation of trauma overall, but if I get ANY hate she'll rampage and dump it all for 30 EE.
Is there anything I can do to keep Hate from spiking out of control, or should I just grind up the 100M shame slowly while I work on T4 for the others and give up on breaking morality on Spice?
Day 23? Pretty much won, just have to break T4 stuff on 2 of the girls, but one is a bit of an issue
Chosen:
Spice is my first Superior Chosen and I'm doing Rampage Distortion.
Working nicely for EE generation, as I can get her to give 30 EE for rampaging plus 15 base.
Issue I'm having is Rampage triggers if Hate > Injury during a capture/surround and I can not seem to keep her Injury level up - ie if I start a surround with her at 0 hate, 3 injury and do Grind once, her hate jumps 1-2 levels every round so she's on a Rampage in 2 rounds.
This is largely due to her only being weak to Hate and very strong vs Injury.
If I avoid any hate generating actions I get really low generation of trauma overall, but if I get ANY hate she'll rampage and dump it all for 30 EE.
Is there anything I can do to keep Hate from spiking out of control, or should I just grind up the 100M shame slowly while I work on T4 for the others and give up on breaking morality on Spice?
Question, what do I do on "downtime" days?
I'm on day 17 of my first playthrough and want to save some EE so that I can break all remaining t2's with a 6 turn 3 capture commander. This means I'll have to save up for a couple of days to get versatility and determination, plus the cost of the commander itself. I have the inferno pepper item, so I can get a "free" basic commander but I doubt I can do much with it.
Is it okay to have days when you just mess around, saving up for a commander/upgrades? Or should I be riding the EE bonuses from vuln breaking, using the influx of EE to break even more and gain even more EE?
Was it a bad idea to go for nursery hives and human collaborators instead of getting more commander upgrades?
I'm on day 17 of my first playthrough and want to save some EE so that I can break all remaining t2's with a 6 turn 3 capture commander. This means I'll have to save up for a couple of days to get versatility and determination, plus the cost of the commander itself. I have the inferno pepper item, so I can get a "free" basic commander but I doubt I can do much with it.
Is it okay to have days when you just mess around, saving up for a commander/upgrades? Or should I be riding the EE bonuses from vuln breaking, using the influx of EE to break even more and gain even more EE?
Was it a bad idea to go for nursery hives and human collaborators instead of getting more commander upgrades?
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OH, I see what I was doing wrong essentially. I hadn't counted in the concept that later breaks are far longer. I was attempting to lengthen combat by using the second capture on another girl, or setting one up for a surround.
By simply capturing Pain -> Surrounding Pain -> Capturing Prayer and humiliating-> Surrounding Pain in the order you already mentioned, the last turn of surround was 12 turns, so even though she was only at ~1k for each (though with a 18x multiplier), the massive amount of turns she was surrounded for was enough.
I appreciate the help.
Finally the last question for now. I'm not sure I understand the 'highest circ' penalty. I was under the impression it was caused by having one circumstance a lower level than the others. But at one point I had level 2 in all traumas and 1 in all circumstances but still suffered the penalty.
Is this penalty simply unavoidable as circumstances rise?
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Either I'm stupid or I ran into a bug.
I don't see a button to continue to the next battle in my latest save, named "interfere_2". I had just finished Meeting up with a Chosen on the Negotiation path, named Cheer.
Luckily I have another save just before this day so I haven't lost that much progress, but it's still annoying.
By the way, if the dev is reading this, here's a minor issue that happened during this campaign. I'm on Loop 2 and both my Loop 1 and 2 have a Chosen named "Cheer". Different real names so they're both different people. I imagine it's because I put a Forsaken in the "Bait" position after my first loop victory and the Loop 2 Cheer is the Forsaken's little sister so the game logic of not having "duplicate" Chosen doesn't apply.
EDIT: I just realized something. I was trying to do Temptation and Negotiation but you need a shit ton of angst to do negotiations. Once you tempt, angst goes down to 0. How am I supposed to progress in the Negotiation path? Do I do Negotiation first or try to do massive orgies every turn and build back angst again (assuming I even can)?
EDIT 2: Nevermind, I am a double idiot. Negotiating with a chosen means I can't battle for the day. And I can build up Angst back up just fine, but I guess it just gets immediately drained after a Tempt action? Is that how it works?
I don't see a button to continue to the next battle in my latest save, named "interfere_2". I had just finished Meeting up with a Chosen on the Negotiation path, named Cheer.
Luckily I have another save just before this day so I haven't lost that much progress, but it's still annoying.
By the way, if the dev is reading this, here's a minor issue that happened during this campaign. I'm on Loop 2 and both my Loop 1 and 2 have a Chosen named "Cheer". Different real names so they're both different people. I imagine it's because I put a Forsaken in the "Bait" position after my first loop victory and the Loop 2 Cheer is the Forsaken's little sister so the game logic of not having "duplicate" Chosen doesn't apply.
EDIT: I just realized something. I was trying to do Temptation and Negotiation but you need a shit ton of angst to do negotiations. Once you tempt, angst goes down to 0. How am I supposed to progress in the Negotiation path? Do I do Negotiation first or try to do massive orgies every turn and build back angst again (assuming I even can)?
EDIT 2: Nevermind, I am a double idiot. Negotiating with a chosen means I can't battle for the day. And I can build up Angst back up just fine, but I guess it just gets immediately drained after a Tempt action? Is that how it works?
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