Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 58] [CSDev]

[Shasou]

I think the guy's complaint is.......

That's an interesting take on the game's lore. To me this game introduces some lore elements that i'm certain everyone here is familiar with. "Oh that demon lord, always with the "taking over the world with sex and lust" antics! He's at it again!" and then there's the magical girls / boys with super powers going against them. Nothing really new here. However, with this game, it is possible to twist it a bit. Here we play as the demon lord instead of the magical heroes and we can catch a glimpse at the organization behind them.

Reminds me of one scene from Legacy of Kain, when Raziel talks to Kain about the Sarafan being the good guys taking on the corruption of the Vampires, and Kain talks about them not being the saints he believes them to be, having their own agenda behind the scenes. No way the organization behind the chosen are the saints in this game, they have their own goals in mind. You can see how the humans treat the chosen in the vignettes sometimes, and it's not pretty.

I love how things can go either way in this story, so you can headcanon and twist some things the way you want. It certainly is flexible enough. While i was playing the game, the only part of it the i just couldn't go through due to it being way too...rough, let's say, was the Aversion system. Some people will enjoy it i'm sure, but to me it's just too much, so i never pursue any of it. The normal battles though is okay, it reminds me of some other battle sex games where the heroes tend to react very much the same. In these fictional worlds where battles take place as "sex battles" instead of violence (again, if you switch violence to tickling), it's pretty much the same, maybe that's why i'm having a different reaction to this aspect of the game haha

Edit: Yu-Gi-Oh! did the same now that i'm thinking about it.....remember GX? The military had those cards being guarded by vehicles and that exaggerated stuff? Can you imagine wars being done by card games? xD

 

[Sinistrem]

Balance: On the first day of campaign mode, players may freely swap to a different starting item.

Can someone explain this please? Does that mean you get more item options on the first day of the first loop? Or does that mean the first day of every loop?

 

[Duarchy]

Side question, but how the hell do I access the blogspot now for a full list of all the update changelogs, given that it's asking for my phone number, social security, credit card, birth sign and three of the hairs off my left hand to verify my age?

 

[Kalloi]

Balance: On the first day of campaign mode, players may freely swap to a different starting item.

Can someone explain this please? Does that mean you get more item options on the first day of the first loop? Or does that mean the first day of every loop?

it means the first day of campaign mode

 

[Kalloi]

Side question, but how the hell do I access the blogspot now for a full list of all the update changelogs, given that it's asking for my phone number, social security, credit card, birth sign and three of the hairs off my left hand to verify my age?

Subscribestar also offers a changelog if you want to take a look, iirc its free to look at the CSDev’s post and its the same as the blog spot verbatim

 

[Kalloi]

That's an interesting take on the game's lore. To me this game introduces some lore elements that i'm certain everyone here is familiar with. "Oh that demon lord, always with the "taking over the world with sex and lust" antics! He's at it again!" and then there's the magical girls / boys with super powers going against them. Nothing really new here. However, with this game, it is possible to twist it a bit. Here we play as the demon lord instead of the magical heroes and we can catch a glimpse at the organization behind them.

Reminds me of one scene from Legacy of Kain, when Raziel talks to Kain about the Sarafan being the good guys taking on the corruption of the Vampires, and Kain talks about them not being the saints he believes them to be, having their own agenda behind the scenes. No way the organization behind the chosen are the saints in this game, they have their own goals in mind. You can see how the humans treat the chosen in the vignettes sometimes, and it's not pretty.

I love how things can go either way in this story, so you can headcanon and twist some things the way you want. It certainly is flexible enough. While i was playing the game, the only part of it the i just couldn't go through due to it being way too...rough, let's say, was the Aversion system. Some people will enjoy it i'm sure, but to me it's just too much, so i never pursue any of it. The normal battles though is okay, it reminds me of some other battle sex games where the heroes tend to react very much the same. In these fictional worlds where battles take place as "sex battles" instead of violence (again, if you switch violence to tickling), it's pretty much the same, maybe that's why i'm having a different reaction to this aspect of the game haha

Edit: Yu-Gi-Oh! did the same now that i'm thinking about it.....remember GX? The military had those cards being guarded by vehicles and that exaggerated stuff? Can you imagine wars being done by card games? xD

Your perspective along with seeing a few others about the game was really interesting to hear, other than the odd take about the game’s content from Accountno person

I talked to CSDev about the lore they have in store for the game as a result of me working on a VN based on the game and out of general interest. I can say for certain there’s a lot of care put into the setting for corrupted saviors from the planned bosses to demon lords, to the psychic energy phenomenon itself. Really excited to see everything in full view once they’re in-game, there’s already a lot of Breadcrumbs CSDev has left behind through the items lore

Like you said, one of the great things about the game is the open ended nature of interpretations you can feel with the game and that extends to the actions you do gameplay-wise, even though you play a demon lord that corrupts the chosen and takes over cities, it’s up to you how you do so. If you want to be a sadistic demon lord that corrupts the chosen you come across into mind broken, sadistic killing machines then you can go for aversion, rampancy, or all out corruption, if you want to create a harem of super powered heroines then negotiation might be more your cup of tea. Even if you want to disregard all of that and play how you want without caring about the specifics you can do so.

I believe this combined with the excellent gameplay elements and developer interaction with the community that keeps the game so fresh for me.

 

[Shasou]

Your perspective along with seeing a few others about the game was really interesting to hear......

This right here, is exactly my view on the game. Now, i firmly believe in letting the players themselves decide how to play the game, you can be sadistic, you can be sensual, you can be loving AND sensual, lustful, and so on, but it should ultimately be the player's choice to decide how they go and do things, allowing them freedom to shape their own experiences of the game they're playing.

Nowadays, it's rare to see this kind of writing, combining quality AND flexibility together, which is why i previously said that this is my favorite game to play. It fits all sides of the spectrum as well, not only offering content for those looking for straight content but gay content as well. I've played runs featuring straight and gay content and i'm very impressed with how flexible the system is.

You've touched a particular point of interest to me regarding the player's approach to scenarios in the game. I don't know CSDev's vision about this one, so i have no clue if they're going to be implementing this or not, but i would like to make a formal request here about one thing: a more seductive, persuasive approach to conquering the chosen. We have aversions, which are...well, let's not beat around the bush anymore, it's a cruel approach to the chosen, and i would like to see an alternative version that focuses more on actually seducting them and convincing them to join your cause, rather than hurting and traumatizing them. I understand perfectly if this suggestion goes against CSDev's vision of the game and it's all good if they choose not to implement it, just wanted to ask if such a thing would be too much to consider adding in

I'm happy to hear that Kalloi is also working on a game that is based on Corrupted Saviors's game world and i would love to play it once it's ready to shine, i personally am enjoying this game's lore so far .

 

[Ragsmu]

speaking of game, trying to figure out why t3 breaks threaten planned Distortions

Spoiler: here is what i am facing right now. Whats wrong with those?

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[chawuciren71]

Tried 1 more time and figured. Some T1 break need to beblow 10k and use the action to hit 10k.

Bug? I have trouble triggering the T1 break of Innocence. Neither Caress nor Humiliate turns green when DISG hit 10k.
In last battle, the same "chosen" hit 10k on bother DISG and SHAM when the Humiliate bottom turn green. Hit it, and then only Dignity T1 triggered while Innocence T1 condition was met but didn't trigger. I don't know if it's related. After that Innocence T1 can no longer triger any more.

 

[Shasou]

♫Hello Bugsie, my old friend♫
♫I've come to talk with you again♫
♫Because a game run softly running♫
♫Left its seeds while i was grumbling♫
♫And the bug that was planted in my game♫
♫Still remains♫

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Corrupted Saviors 39c

 

[zertyx23]

I don't know how to join the save but when I use the broadcast to break a vulnerability, I'm getting lock in a loop. I join an image

 

[Deleted member 585777]

This game hurts my brain. The entirety of the plot seems to revolve around some kind of bizarre assumption, which is never explained at all, that somehow bad = demon, and sex = bad? Sure the "heroines" are reasonable for being traumatized by violent sexual assault and beatings of course, but the game goes much further than that. It really implies that women+sex = evil. Does. Not. Compute. It might even be a fun little game otherwise.

Does anyone understand this??

For a game about corrupting magical girls, I think it follows the tropes that have been layed by hundreds of other games that came before it.

 

[SuperSkippy]

39c is out with some bugfixes.

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Release 39b:

• Resolved a crash that could affect the Inseminate+ and Sodomize+ actions.

Release 39c:

• Resolved a crash that could affect some variants of the Negotiation post-battle scene for Core Morality/Core Dignity Chosen.

 

[Kuchai]

That feeling when you come for the porn but instead find a really addicting Text-Based Roguelike / Management Games.

Anyway I remember playing this game like two years ago and just got back to it now and none of the basic stuff is coming back to me. My main issue is that I seem to be unable to get solid breaks early enough so I'm still playing with +3 EE at day 15 and only getting around +6 EE at mid-Day 30's. I'm pretty sure those are really bad rates as I remember being at least in the double digits back then per day but I might be mistaken.

My other issue are trying to avoid Minor Vulnerability breaks to avoid Chosen's becoming friends but it seems to just happen anyway and trying to focus on Core Vulnerabilities feels impossible until you're properly built and have a damn good chain going. Are there any guides or tips out there as I remember also not really having a solid grasp on how the game really worked and just autopiloted [Pummel > Caress > Grind] sometimes flipping Grind and Pummel around depending on vulnerabilities. Getting EXPO up seems incredibly difficult if I want to break that.

 

[Ragsmu]

That feeling when you come for the porn but instead find a really addicting Text-Based Roguelike / Management Games.

Anyway I remember playing this game like two years ago and just got back to it now and none of the basic stuff is coming back to me. My main issue is that I seem to be unable to get solid breaks early enough so I'm still playing with +3 EE at day 15 and only getting around +6 EE at mid-Day 30's. I'm pretty sure those are really bad rates as I remember being at least in the double digits back then per day but I might be mistaken.

My other issue are trying to avoid Minor Vulnerability breaks to avoid Chosen's becoming friends but it seems to just happen anyway and trying to focus on Core Vulnerabilities feels impossible until you're properly built and have a damn good chain going. Are there any guides or tips out there as I remember also not really having a solid grasp on how the game really worked and just autopiloted [Pummel > Caress > Grind] sometimes flipping Grind and Pummel around depending on vulnerabilities. Getting EXPO up seems incredibly difficult if I want to break that.

If we do not count items in the equasion - Early game usually consists of rushing 4 turn 2 capture commander. which is ususally doable by the turn 11 or 12 until then you are stuck with +1 per girl. But as soon as you get it with proper play you should be able to get at least T1s or maybe some T2s depending on stats. Next with 5 turn 2 capture - you should be able to break all T2.
If we include items in campaign - grab one (10k Circumstance once per loop) that fits the core of the first girl you encounter. and break her t2 from the get go. that should give you huge influx of points by turn 7 or 8 which hastens your commander acquisition. Aside from that - just learn to properly use commander. that is the main thing

 

[Qazex Saw]

speaking of game, trying to figure out why t3 breaks threaten planned Distortions

Spoiler: here is what i am facing right now. Whats wrong with those?

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Had this problem myself a while back.
Iirc a core t3 break will trigger a event where the chosen will force the same break on their rival who has said value as a minor if it hasn't had a lot of breaks.
From the looks of your setup, it seems that Shroud will cause a dignity break on Lady if she hits t3 dignity, while Lady will do a confidence break on Aurora if she gets a t3 confidence break.

Getting the distortion first will prevent these types of automatic breaks from happening, so you just have to finish Aurora's Distortion first, then Lady, then do whatever with Shroud.

That feeling when you come for the porn but instead find a really addicting Text-Based Roguelike / Management Games.

Anyway I remember playing this game like two years ago and just got back to it now and none of the basic stuff is coming back to me. My main issue is that I seem to be unable to get solid breaks early enough so I'm still playing with +3 EE at day 15 and only getting around +6 EE at mid-Day 30's. I'm pretty sure those are really bad rates as I remember being at least in the double digits back then per day but I might be mistaken.

My other issue are trying to avoid Minor Vulnerability breaks to avoid Chosen's becoming friends but it seems to just happen anyway and trying to focus on Core Vulnerabilities feels impossible until you're properly built and have a damn good chain going. Are there any guides or tips out there as I remember also not really having a solid grasp on how the game really worked and just autopiloted [Pummel > Caress > Grind] sometimes flipping Grind and Pummel around depending on vulnerabilities. Getting EXPO up seems incredibly difficult if I want to break that.

You want a commander that's at least 2 capture and 4 duration first.
Then do pummel->grind->humiliate->caress, then slap a pummel->grind->humiliate on a second chosen.
Having a third capture to grab the third chosen helps a lot in squeezing out more captures but that's expensive and not necessary early on.

The pummel/grind adds enough damage over the 4 turns to go for a second capture right after they get free, and enough multipliers to tackle whatever vulnerability you want.

For the other chosen, you also want them captured as often as possible to buy yourself more turns and prevent damage reduction, but you don't need to pay too much attention to them other than making sure they'll get enough damage for the next capture.

https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupted-saviors-release-39-csdev.63932/post-9131932
Here is the guide is what I used when starting out. Kinda old but still works and quite handy.

 

[AccountNo23_III]

I fail to understand what so difficult to comprehend in "Demon lord corrupts superheroes through sex and violence" plot line.
Or did you find fault in them stress releasing through erotic acts? You do comprehend that those are not their natural inclinations but forced stress control mechanism to escape severe trauma? Not the fact of the sex itself is evil but that dissonance of actual pure personality and warped escapism.

Spoiler: Kinda personal attack, don't read if you don't want to be offended

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I take no exception to the violence, nor to the fact that characters cope in ways that make the problem worse. That's just what humans always do. My problem is with the core, implicit, unavoidable premise of the entire world in the game.

<borderline_autistic_correction> A CPU is deterministic. It either works or it doesn't. A better comparison would be a software update. </>

I think the guy's complaint is more that the game seems to paint sex in a negative light, pushing this idea that the only reason anyone would do the lewds would be because they're evil or corrupt in some way. They're not so much being offended by the immorality of the game, so much as confused by the idea of a lewd game pushing lewds as somehow bad, I think?

But in a world where there's a demon lord using people and their twisted lust to breed armies of violent thralls that spend every fight spewing fluids, throwing insults, and trying to force themselves on their enemies- specifically because this behavior turns the invincible heroes into helpless chew-toys? One can only imagine that the in-universe moral and political discussions are incredibly biased against sex positivity, my guy. Government would want to paint it as bad to discourage people from falling in with that crowd and deny as many mindless thralls to the baddies as possible, citizens would be terrified for their own well-being and their family's well-being, so the majority would be discouraging perversion in every aspect of culture they could.

In this hypothetical alternate universe where someone can be a nigh-on invincible magical girl or super hero, and there's a literal demon lord making people into weapons through their dicks, our world's values are moot. We didn't build our society to handle problems like those. The heroes and heroines don't engage in sex unless they're cracking under the pressure not because the dev thinks sex is bad and only bad people want it, but because they've probably been trained to see sex as bad to keep their exploitable vices down to a minimum, given the kind of enemy they're up against. They're brainwashed to be against it, you're brainwashing them to be all for it, there's a rabbit-hole of ethical questions and concerns you could get into there, but like...

At the end of the day, the game might not be for you if you're looking for sex positivity, and that's about all that really matters. Does the game suit your tastes, yes or no, if yes, cool, if no, there's probably half a dozen others to try floating around at any one time.

This isn't a matter of taste though. That this game was created, that it exists at all, implies that there are people who accept this idea that sex is in some way inherently negative. I don't even want to consider a world in which there are people who can believe something so patently absurd. That's why I prefer to play dumb a little when I comment on topics relating to unquestioned assumptions people have about the world, and you're revealing several.

Firstly I just want to note that this game maximally associates sex with evil. It's not a minor thing. Demons wishing to destroy the moral core of mankind would be a fine premise. To undermine people morally one should force them to do things that are morally appalling, preferably ostensibly of their own will. What do we get in the game? Women are forced into sexual acts, and little else. From there they start committing actual crimes, murder, destruction, arson, condoning collateral damage, betrayal. Consider also the other premises of the game. All the women are presented as having no sexual experience at the start (or, to use an incredibly archaic and meaningless term that should die a flaming death ASAP: they're virgins). Furthermore their magic is directly associated in some capacity with that fact. When raped they're shunned by society.

Demons are by definition evil. That is not to say that they're examples of evil: they are evil itself. Demons are evil. Evil is demons. It's an equation. In this game, evil considers sex the most potent tool they have against women. Evil considers sex a moral weapon. And they not only use it successfully but additionally the society in the game implicitly agrees.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this beyond that I despise this attitude and can't understand why anyone would write a story about it. "Sex positivity" isn't a political opinion. It's an unassailable fact and a moral imperative.

For a game about corrupting magical girls, I think it follows the tropes that have been layed by hundreds of other games that came before it.

Something is not rendered acceptable by being a trope.

 

[Arcaneshadow]

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I'm not sure why you are so focused on the narrative structure of a smut game that is referencing the magical girl corruption genre, the plot of an erotic-game is mostly to provide context for the scene in question, assuming the creator is trying to make a political stance on their view of sexuality or body positivity based off the content present in the game is honestly stupid.

Do you care about the tax laws that function in this world?, how about the age of consent? I havn't seen you talk about the moral implications of sending "young people" out to fight wars against supernatural monsters.

By the way magic doesnt exist in the real world and in the hypothetical scenario where demons actually could change your personality as a result of you performing specific actions there would be irl laws put in place to monitor and prevent that activity.

 

[alex2011]

This game hurts my brain. The entirety of the plot seems to revolve around some kind of bizarre assumption, which is never explained at all, that somehow bad = demon, and sex = bad? Sure the "heroines" are reasonable for being traumatized by violent sexual assault and beatings of course, but the game goes much further than that. It really implies that women+sex = evil. Does. Not. Compute. It might even be a fun little game otherwise.

Does anyone understand this??

Demons have the ability to corrupt those they have sex with, that's what is bad, not the sex part or who they have sex with. When the Chosen are corrupted, even a little, they become weaker against the Demons. This causes the Humans to lose faith because the Chosen, the one group that can stop the Demons, are losing, which causes even further weakening of the powers the Chosen wield and eventually just causes them to break. After losing in the final battle, that one last line of defense, the Chosen, can become the greatest enemy Humans have ever faced, the Forsaken.

 

[Deleted member 585777]

Something is not rendered acceptable by being a trope.

ah right, so do you have a problem with the premise of this game? or do you have a problem with the corruption trope in genera (and thereby this game as well as all other corruption game)?