True, I posted late for me and it's been a week.
Only with the base actions from Surround. When you're actually racking the numbers up, you're doing a Defiler, Defiler+, or Orgy and in all of those cases you're doing more damage after T1 break, because those tactics are unavailable.
I think you misunderstood. There are distortion specific relationship events. For example if you do a negotiation it will trigger a event where one of the chosen on patrol will confront the negotiated chosen on her "day off". If the chosen on patrol was not negotiated with she will condemn the negotiated chosen for falling for demon lord's trick and they will become enemies. If the chosen on patrol was negotiated with then they will form a unbreakable bond. There are similar interactions with all distortions.
Yeah, since you said it is easier to deal damage after t1 breaks, I wanted to point out that surround tactics actually decrease the damage you will deal when surrounded. You need to deal damage to get to defiler actions anyways. Also I may be wrong here but I am pretty sure t1 breaks don't increase the damage at all, only when you break t2 vulnerability do you get a significant increase in the damage you deal.
There are no "bad breaks" When you break t3 they start to do techniques that help them combat against you, but also build up a meter that allows you to t4 break them. Them ending up killed has to deal with the final battle and other Chosen Killing them.
It's not "break" related because I can load that party and Approach Paladin and she and Pariah will get this scene after without any actual breaks occurring. So either activating the Distortion is counting as breaks in the ~~~ Vulnerabilities or it's comparing something else. Since reloading and going into a fight and activating Pariah's Rampant causes her to have a similar scene with Smile that makes me think it's either only counting ~~~ as breaks if they're in the Major Vulnerability (since otherwise Smile should count as having a fully broken Minor Confidence to coincide with Pariah's full ~~~ Major Confidence) or it's checking something else.
Someone talked early about that Distortion have scene set for different distortion unless unbreakable friendship first. Thats probably it, I always assumed it was due to the distortion having different vulnerabilities thus ~~~ counted as automatic never going break hence the rift. Makes sense to me either way why they have rifts.
Hopefully I’m not too late to answer your question but I will confirm what you’ve read on distortions, same distortions between chosen is positive relationship and different distortion is negative
What program did you use for this? Asking for a friend.
Strange. I thought relationship in orgy and defiler+ only multiplied. With rivals it's 2X, and with love between them it should be 1x... Is there a hindrance if they like each other?
Yes, my recollection was that you got a 1.4x damage multiplier in Defiler+ and Orgy actions if they were friends and 1.8x if they were enemies. The guide says damage only increases if they hate each other so maybe it's .8x for friends?
Yah makes sense to me. Seems like what I said before though about relationship not being finalized.
Even then its such a niche item since if you're even hit orgy that 0.2 isnt going really matter that much compared to taking time to activating it unless they're all friends.Yes, my recollection was that you got a 1.4x damage multiplier in Defiler+ and Orgy actions if they were friends and 1.8x if they were enemies. The guide says damage only increases if they hate each other so maybe it's .8x for friends?
Yep! You did answer the question, all I did was substantiate what you said and doctor shark found upthread so no one has to go out and test it out. These days you and lot of other helpful users on the forum answer a lot of the questions I needed to back then so I don’t really feel a need to chime in unless it’s something that’s not as heavily noted/referenced like distortion relationships in this case
I see. I always thought distortions meant unbreakable friendship or bitter enemy but seems like that was a misconception.
Guess I was the the one confused there. I usually do triple distortions on the same day which means most of the time I end up with 3 unbreakable friendships regardless of core vulnerabilities. Since you said "Distortion don't affect relationship", I wanted to point out that distortions do have a special relationshipship event related to them which is seperate from the core-break one.
Oh yah that is true on the relationship event. I agree on that one. I'm kinda curious do you guys like to micromanage friendships or not. I usually try for forsaken bonus.
I believe CSDev said they were using Inochi2D, I tried it and trying to wrap my head around it personally, if you get things working well I would definitely appreciate some tips hahaha
It depends on the forsaken and distortion, for temptation forsaken I typically try to have them bond with their teammates and bait out some of their family to get good leverage for their training along with loyal hypnotist. Besides the gameplay side it depends on the story I want to craft for the team if that makes any sense
Like i said i usually just make them unbreakable friends by doing the same distortions(No Rampages). Unless when there are multiple pre broken vulnerabilities on different chosens.
