Okay, I've beaten the game once, but now I don't know what to do with my Forsaken. I made a backup of my save and tried experimenting with getting their stats really high, but they seemed to "plateau" at various points, possibly because I trained depravity too much? Not sure... Also, how does the game determine what the forsaken start at, statwise? Mine all had about 40-60's in their stats, the guide talks about very low stats though but says its impossible to reduce them, so am I supposed to capture the girls without corrupting them as much, or is there some trick to getting their stats a certain way after the final battle?
And what about attack styles? I am not sure which attack style I ought to be giving to which girls, I assume their stats would come in to play here somehow?
Congratulations on your first win!
If you’ve won in single play mode then you only use them in other single play runs.
in campaign mode you use them for that save throughout the loops so they are more important in that mode since each loop increases in difficulty.
I’ll try to answer each of your questions individuallly to keep things simple
To answer your question about why you can’t raise your stats as much it is related to how high your “Deviancy” is
The higher it is, the less expertise you will get from training actions, so it’s good to keep note of how much you raise it.
With the new training actions added this year its easy to max out those 4 stats with the more extreme actions, especially deviancy with the hypnosis training so if you have a PLEA focused forsaken its a good idea to raise their expertise as much as you can before you do the extreme training options
on the topic of “deviancy” it’s one of the 4 main stats of a forsaken as you know. And a forsaken initial stats is tied to two things.
the vulnerabilities you’ve broken on the chosen when you defeated them
and the type of vulnerability it was when they were chosen.
It may be obvious but I’ll still list the correlation in case anyone wants to know
Chosen ————— Forsaken
Morality—————Hostility
Innocence————Deviancy
Confidence————Obedience
Dignity——————-Disgrace
So if you broke all of the t4 on your chosen before turning them into forsaken that’s the reason their stats were in the 40-60 ranges
and whether a vulnerability was core/significant/minor is why some of those stats were higher than others even if you broke all the t4’s on a chosen
if you broke a chosen’s t4 morality along with breaking her other t4 vulnerabilities and morality was her core vulnerability, then her hostility will be the lowest stat as a forsaken.
and If innocence was her minor vulnerability then her depravity would be her highest stat.
basically, think of it like this, if the chosen valued her innocence when she was a chosen, she would still value it the most when she became a forsaken.
so hopefully this answers your questions about how to get their stats a certain way before turning them into forsaken!
You do have to capture the girls without corrupting them too much but instead of trying to defeat them without corrupting them at all, it might be easier to decide ahead of time what kind of forsaken you want them to be, what their type of vulnerabilities they have, and go from there.
Beyond that, there two things you can keep in mind if you are trying to defeat a chosen without corrupting them too much, distortions, and the late game upgrades for the final battle.
firstly with the distortions, getting used to achieving them on chosen consistently is helpful not only in general, but also for learning to hold yourself back from just breaking every vulnerability on a chosen. Which you want to get decent at when you want to specialize forsaken in certain ways.
And secondly, being able to take a chosen out of the picture without much of a hassle using their distortion is really helpful when you’re trying to defeat a relatively uncorrupted chosen since you can spend more time on that chosen than her teammates. Which I will be honest can be quite hard depending on the situation
The second thing I mentioned is your late game abilities, I mostly mean your “+” upgrades like “Attack +” or “Slime +” Or “Antipathy”
i mostly want you to take note of two them at the moment though
“Attack +” and “Threaten +”
the reason why is these two are able to to resolve damage and defeat chosen in the final battle, even if they aren’t t4 corrupted At all.
1% from attack + isn’t much but it’s better than nothing and it should be the worst case scenario
threaten on the other hand, can go up to 4% if you impregnated her other two teammates, so you can get some good resolve damage on her, especially if you raise her fear from it.
and remember that if you get the antipathy upgrade they will start off with reduced resolve the more they hate their teammates. Of course relationships may end up causing some vulnerability breaks if they go sour enough as well but that’s why its good to plan ahead of how pure you want your chosen to be really early on.
i hope this helps a little with trying to capture pure chosen for you
And which attack styles are best vary
In their expertise and also the cost to deploy them
expertise is obvious but why the cost is important is because the cheaper it costs to deploy the forsaken(How much EE they cost) the less damage they do
the Low cost forsaken do very well with the attack styles that deal two damage types(ie. the "wild" attack style does INJU/EXPO damage) but are awful with the the attack styles that deal all four damage types at once. If the low cost forsaken is distorted one like aversion or temptation then they can get way with the 3 damage type attack styles along as they involve the damage type they have a buff in.
Mid cost forsaken 20-50 range in my experiences do well with 3 damage-type attack styles and high cost forsaken do best with 4 damage-type attack styles but ironically are sort of underwhelming with the attack styles that deal two damage types.
CSDev has a post explaining this in better detail If you want to me find it I can try to find it. Either way I hope it helps!
