Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.13] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Quintilus]

Being human gives you actual bonuses, instead of being a "throw your humanity away as fast as you can because humans are basic and boring".

Ah yes, humans and their infamously broken racial ability 'sweating'...

 

[arls120]

I just change some things about brint and that you can fuck his father even if you keep him as a man ...... why would you leave him as a man if you can't do nothing with him?

In the centaurs the option to finally fuck their boss if you don't kill him. But they really made me laugh a lot of your ideas would be really interesting.

 

[arls120]

I was drunk and bored yesterday, so I came up with a """Changelog""", of what I'd change in the game to fit my tastes and become the game I'd like it to be. Feel free to give opinions. My mind is set on these things, but maybe someone making a mod in the future may take a few of these as an inspiration, even if they disagree. And no, I am not making a mod or anything, because I don't know how to. If I would, I would do.

I just change some things about brint and that you can fuck his father even if you keep him as a man ...... why would you leave him as a man if you can't do nothing with him?

In the centaurs the option to finally fuck their boss if you don't kill him. But they really made me laugh a lot of your ideas would be really interesting.

 

[Deviton123]

Ah yes, humans and their infamously broken racial ability 'sweating'...

 

[Quintilus]

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[Kodek]

I want to point out that i yet have found one of Tobs writing that i actually can FORCE myself to be interested just for the sake of knowing what is going on. I liked Kyoko only at the beggining of the game because of lack of content. I hate the foxes questline and nearly all the characters that are involved in it and i hate that he didn't let us have cute family moments with Kinu because he wanted to fuck her himself and not let anyone else do it because of course everyone else wanted to do it too... so many self-insert... at least we have another daughter we can maybe dot on more.

Literally i have YET to complete the foxes questline after all this time because of how boring it is. If the rest of the writers/artists actually cared about the game JUST a little bit, we would have more content to play instead of seeing Tobs go to hell and back in his self-insert fanficitions about how much of deep fucker he is. Now i will return to lurk and wait for enough updates to actually bring myself to play it... maybe in some years.

 

[mrttao]

He seriously thinks that his content is divisive because he's this "nasty-minded psychic vampire" (his actual fucking words btw) that breaks convention and refuses to "appeal to the lowest common denominator". Making players that wade through his stories "ask deeper questions" by offending their sensibilities.

wow... does he not realize that being a psychic vampire is a bad thing?
It literally means you are a shit person nobody wants to be around.

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Psychic vampires, also known as energy vampires, are emotionally immature individuals who drain the time and energy from those around them. They are usually highly self-interested and lack empathy. The relationships they form are largely self serving. You can deal with psychic vampires by identifying psychic vampires in your life, setting firm boundaries with these people, and working on your own sense of self esteem and self worth.

... we should probably find a better name for those kind of people
since they think "vampires are cool". instead of "I am such a shit person, maybe I should stop doing that"
... like, maybe call them "loathsome dung eaters" or something?

 

[MoneyMan181]

Petition to have unique scenes exclusive to humans because we would inherently be better at marathon fucking than the furries.

 

[Kenshira]

Lmao at that post. We could measure the distance between the center of the universe and its true edge, but its length won't compare to how far The Observer is up his own ass.

He seriously thinks that his content is divisive because he's this "nasty-minded psychic vampire" (his actual fucking words btw) that breaks convention and refuses to "appeal to the lowest common denominator". Making players that wade through his stories "ask deeper questions" by offending their sensibilities.

Motherfucker your content is divisive because nobody wants to read your nasty ass Princess Maker fanfic. Nobody gives a fuck about your embarrassing donut-steel tier faux-Japanese (or in this case Fox-Japanese) race of edgelords jerking themselves off about how fucking awesome they are because the eldritch creatures that invaded the known world ignored their island. And nobody gives a fuck about this edgelord wolf bitch that didn't even flinch about killing a large fraction of a struggling town's young population. People are here to get their rocks off on having their ass or cunt get split by a 12 foot long horsecock or their dicks getting slobbered by a bunch of elves/ titfucked by demons / ridden by goblins. Lots of people dislike your content because their dicks become limp in their hands wading through your word vomit paragraphs that are less interesting than a phonebook's Yellow Pages.

Woah woah buddy, ya got a permit for bein' that based?

 

[NODOGAN]

Tob's "writting" being longer than the phonebook's yellow pages is so accurate it hurts, even his goddamn sex scenes are that long! I can't keep PP hard long enough to read 3 whole pages, 24 paragraphs long each till the MC FINALLY nuts in the foxhole, I didn't bring viagra!

 

[Lucky_I]

Everyone that doesn't have kids or isn't married, and isn't random encounter (not counting named characters) is now a virgin, irrelevant whether male or female.
All content, and any mention, of sluttery.....has been removed....

This alone makes this sound like the prudest sex game I would have ever played. I'll never understand the insistence of keeping characters "pure" as if there's anything wrong with a sexual past. That's a pretty incel esque want for a sex game, especially for CoC(and TiTS) where the sexually open nature of the setting it's both the point and appeal.

 

[gregers]

This alone makes this sound like the prudest sex game I would have ever played. I'll never understand the insistence of keeping characters "pure" as if there's anything wrong with a sexual past. That's a pretty incel esque want for a sex game, especially for CoC(and TiTS) where the sexually open nature of the setting it's both the point and appeal.

The only alluring thing about virgins is that they won't be able to judge what a bad lay you are.

 

[NaturalEnclave]

So, I want to hear your takes on the CoC2 protagonist, cause it's actually something I've been wondering about. RPG games have all kinds of protags.

Some of them are really light - Persona series basically has pre-made MC who's personality you can lightly shape by some choices, as well as stable relationship with all companions. You WILL obtain them and they WILL be your friends no matter what, but it's up to you if you want to romance someone. It has the advantage of companions actually serving a solid role in the main plot and being developed pretty well.
Some are heaver - like Fallout, where you can be much more of an evil asshole, straight up murder potential companions and love interests and have a nice degree of choice. But naturally, those games are way less interactions with those companions - they cannot really be that major to the main quest anymore and typically stop being that interesting once their personal quest is done. Fallout 4 actually did fix that a bit (while making other things worse), but it's still far from perfect.
We then have legit CRPGs like Pathfinder or Baldur's Gate, which let you have ENOURMOUS customizability of PC and a massive array of choices that is borderline terrifying. Those games takes years to make for a reason and probably require a very specific writing style to make sure the story still flows well despite those choices possibly derailing all written content.

I've heard some complains about CoC2 protagonist, but they were more about lack of agency and freedom of choice. There are quests where you feel like you should have been able to do something, but you can't, because the written demands it. Yet, something like this would probably feel more appropriate in a Persona game or another RPG where protagonist, while being mostly a self-insert, still has his own agency and personality.

The reason what I am wondering about this topic is because I wonder what aspects of a main character are dealbreakers and which ones is something people can still vibe with. CoC2 already mixes a lot of aspects, due to multiple writers and often cause a weird inconsistent mix. Would the game be better if MC had their own, clear personality which you influence by choices and all companions are vital for the story, even if you never pick them in combat? Would it only work if the game then locked appearance options, because having this type of MC while still having freedom over their appearance creates disconnect? Do you think every quest should allow for an evil choice for the sake of roleplay, no matter how forced it might feel? Basically, I just want to hear others ramble about what makes a good protag for them to play as in this sort of game and what they find acceptable and terrible.

 

[Quintilus]

Petition to have unique scenes exclusive to humans because we would inherently be better at marathon fucking than the furries.

Furries have advantage here (debatable, depends on a furry implementation). They susceptible to heat/rut..emmm hormonal cycle???? Like, body cant go any longer but it still crave.
-Babe, I cant go anymore, my body is literally on fire
-I still need it...your dick is still hard, lay down, I will ride you
*sound of moving parts switching*
*sound of sex*
*breaking news, two furries found dead in a bedroom, reason of death is overheating*

 

[Tau_Iota]

This alone makes this sound like the prudest sex game I would have ever played. I'll never understand the insistence of keeping characters "pure" as if there's anything wrong with a sexual past. That's a pretty incel esque want for a sex game, especially for CoC(and TiTS) where the sexually open nature of the setting it's both the point and appeal.

No yu don undastand, if MY pens tooch vagene after some1 eles pens touch the vagene den I am GAE. But I am no gae, so de womens vagenes must be poure yaaknow? Ya yaaknow!

Implying that all characters that are unmarried or don't have kids are virgins removes a lot of my favorite tropes too. Namely, burlesque-type characters and aggressive partners. Jessica Rabbit fans wya?

Although in a different game it could be interesting, almost like a reverse CoC where you enter a world that's Puritanical and your quest is being the corruptor

 

[Quintilus]

So, I want to hear your takes on the CoC2 protagonist, cause it's actually something I've been wondering about. RPG games have all kinds of protags.

Some of them are really light - Persona series basically has pre-made MC who's personality you can lightly shape by some choices, as well as stable relationship with all companions. You WILL obtain them and they WILL be your friends no matter what, but it's up to you if you want to romance someone. It has the advantage of companions actually serving a solid role in the main plot and being developed pretty well.
Some are heaver - like Fallout, where you can be much more of an evil asshole, straight up murder potential companions and love interests and have a nice degree of choice. But naturally, those games are way less interactions with those companions - they cannot really be that major to the main quest anymore and typically stop being that interesting once their personal quest is done. Fallout 4 actually did fix that a bit (while making other things worse), but it's still far from perfect.
We then have legit CRPGs like Pathfinder or Baldur's Gate, which let you have ENOURMOUS customizability of PC and a massive array of choices that is borderline terrifying. Those games takes years to make for a reason and probably require a very specific writing style to make sure the story still flows well despite those choices possibly derailing all written content.

I've heard some complains about CoC2 protagonist, but they were more about lack of agency and freedom of choice. There are quests where you feel like you should have been able to do something, but you can't, because the written demands it. Yet, something like this would probably feel more appropriate in a Persona game or another RPG where protagonist, while being mostly a self-insert, still has his own agency and personality.

The reason what I am wondering about this topic is because I wonder what aspects of a main character are dealbreakers and which ones is something people can still vibe with. CoC2 already mixes a lot of aspects, due to multiple writers and often cause a weird inconsistent mix. Would the game be better if MC had their own, clear personality which you influence by choices and all companions are vital for the story, even if you never pick them in combat? Would it only work if the game then locked appearance options, because having this type of MC while still having freedom over their appearance creates disconnect? Do you think every quest should allow for an evil choice for the sake of roleplay, no matter how forced it might feel? Basically, I just want to hear others ramble about what makes a good protag for them to play as in this sort of game and what they find acceptable and terrible.

Currently main character is just a random shmug that SOMEHOW manages to put down various horrors without much of an effort (oh no, power fantasy!!!)

IMO it should be an 'outsider' to the locals.
Like, there was very big magical explosion and...none of the magician from nearby locations havent bothered to go and check 'whats is that BOOM-ed out there'??? Really?!?!?! On a fucking teleporting tower of a...whats her name, Matisha? a whole salamander from magician guild (IIRC) was sent to put her down. Yee, yee, I know, removing one of the companions from the list of companions is a priority task for devs...
So, it should be magical guild related somebody, with some experience in resolving magical disasters-and-related-shit, who comes to the game main location to investigate who violates the pact of a 'no nuclear magical bombs'. And after arriving and witnessing whats going on there, (s)he adds 2 and 2 and sends letter/pigeon/etc. to magical guild with text like 'shit here is fucked, both figuratively and literally. We need to deal with it, otherwise there will be massive consequences. Send dudes!!!!111'. Somewhere here (s)he should become a main character.

 

[NODOGAN]

This alone makes this sound like the prudest sex game I would have ever played. I'll never understand the insistence of keeping characters "pure" as if there's anything wrong with a sexual past. That's a pretty incel esque want for a sex game, especially for CoC(and TiTS) where the sexually open nature of the setting it's both the point and appeal.

Wait WHAT?¡

Since WHEN Savarra happens to be in Japan?¡ Like for real this is making me think of the japanese Music Idols and their toxic fandom which go fucking apeshit if the idol is dating someone and/or isn't a virgin.

 

[NODOGAN]

So, I want to hear your takes on the CoC2 protagonist, cause it's actually something I've been wondering about. RPG games have all kinds of protags.

Some of them are really light - Persona series basically has pre-made MC who's personality you can lightly shape by some choices, as well as stable relationship with all companions. You WILL obtain them and they WILL be your friends no matter what, but it's up to you if you want to romance someone. It has the advantage of companions actually serving a solid role in the main plot and being developed pretty well.
Some are heaver - like Fallout, where you can be much more of an evil asshole, straight up murder potential companions and love interests and have a nice degree of choice. But naturally, those games are way less interactions with those companions - they cannot really be that major to the main quest anymore and typically stop being that interesting once their personal quest is done. Fallout 4 actually did fix that a bit (while making other things worse), but it's still far from perfect.
We then have legit CRPGs like Pathfinder or Baldur's Gate, which let you have ENOURMOUS customizability of PC and a massive array of choices that is borderline terrifying. Those games takes years to make for a reason and probably require a very specific writing style to make sure the story still flows well despite those choices possibly derailing all written content.

I've heard some complains about CoC2 protagonist, but they were more about lack of agency and freedom of choice. There are quests where you feel like you should have been able to do something, but you can't, because the written demands it. Yet, something like this would probably feel more appropriate in a Persona game or another RPG where protagonist, while being mostly a self-insert, still has his own agency and personality.

The reason what I am wondering about this topic is because I wonder what aspects of a main character are dealbreakers and which ones is something people can still vibe with. CoC2 already mixes a lot of aspects, due to multiple writers and often cause a weird inconsistent mix. Would the game be better if MC had their own, clear personality which you influence by choices and all companions are vital for the story, even if you never pick them in combat? Would it only work if the game then locked appearance options, because having this type of MC while still having freedom over their appearance creates disconnect? Do you think every quest should allow for an evil choice for the sake of roleplay, no matter how forced it might feel? Basically, I just want to hear others ramble about what makes a good protag for them to play as in this sort of game and what they find acceptable and terrible.

The lack of consistency with the main character and how it is written is a big deal to me, in some sex scenes you're literaly the biggest chad around who has fucked hundreds of holes and basically one-thrust-man while in others like the Manticore one suddenly you're a shy virgin who's having trouble telling an npc yo BARELY KNOW that you love her (yeah, not like her, LOVE her, if this shit ain't the most ecchi highschool anime moment in the game outside of Tobs' then idk what is.)

Also the constant lack of agency that is there just so your companions and even other NPCs can steal your thunder are a real pain in the ass, why do I have to stop Kasyrra when Leofric is roaming the plains and in the writter's mind he can beat Goku?

Why do I have to do crap when Carmen and Oxanna apparently have been alive for hundreds of years and were super uber disciples of Kotone or whoever the fuck her name was?

Why can Kasyrra have an entire fucking dialogue scene with Malach, a FRIGGING GOD-LEVEL-SPAWN FROM THE VOID and still be alive so we continue our "rivalry" when he could've just smited her?

Just...they have insisted in making so many super-special-snowflakes in this game that honestly it doesn't feel like we're needed anymore, stopping Kassyrra is meaningless, I'll just go into the forest to enjoy some Tall, Fertility-Goddess-Like Leothran pussy, that's my mission I guess? roam the land and find sexy new holes.

 

[Quintilus]

in some sex scenes you're literaly the biggest chad around who has fucked hundreds of holes and basically one-thrust-man while in others like the Manticore one suddenly you're a shy virgin who's having trouble telling an npc yo BARELY KNOW that you love her

This could have worked if there are was progress in scenes over time.
I see, and could believe, how womanizer that always make moves on a woman becomes shy and uncertain when woman make moves on him. Because he doesnt know what to do in such situation due to the lack of experience. But there are should be progression, aka experience gain over time, like
first five times womanizer just cutely moans while woman breaks his pelvis
next five times womanizer whispers something like 'wow, thats nice'
next five times womanizer get a hand on it by helping woman ride him
next five times womanizer pick and sucks tits straight up from the start and gets spoiled for being obedient little boi
or something like that.

Kotone

Woah, bro, could you not dirty MGD by mentions it in this thread!? Thanks.

 

[Kenshira]

Just...they have insisted in making so many super-special-snowflakes in this game that honestly it doesn't feel like we're needed anymore, stopping Kassyrra is meaningless, I'll just go into the forest to enjoy some Tall, Fertility-Goddess-Like Leothran pussy, that's my mission I guess? roam the land and find sexy new holes.

This pretty much sums up any of my playthroughs in the sparse amount of time I've touched the game, why waste my time being a ACTUAL NPC in the story telling diarrhea that's the main story when my fem character can find comfort in some Vari titties in the forest whenever she wants. Likewise with any other characters who catch my interest.

The lack of consistency with the main character and how it is written is a big deal to me, in some sex scenes you're literaly the biggest chad around who has fucked hundreds of holes and basically one-thrust-man while in others like the Manticore one suddenly you're a shy virgin who's having trouble telling an npc yo BARELY KNOW that you love her (yeah, not like her, LOVE her, if this shit ain't the most ecchi highschool anime moment in the game outside of Tobs' then idk what is.)

As someone who likes diverse characters and not the stereotypical 'Unga bunga Futa stud', this one hits. Don't get me wrong I got nothing against dominant characters who'll rail someone else into the bed (I mean my male PC playthrough is literally about tapping femboy ass whenever I come across it.) But as ya said there's a disconnect there in the consistency of your character.