Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Archaon11111]

Fuck this game, dude. Fuck Fen too. Goddamn, long live Savin. Never thought I'd be saying that. Dude did in 2,5 years what Tits couldn't in half a damn decade.

Well thats because Savin and team are way more organized and straightforward its a simple yes this will be in here and no it wont be here in what they want and have planned for the future, if you look at the game files you can already see whats planned in terms of character transformations, enemies, and scenes that are not in the game yet. Also have all the important mechanics that TITS lacks such as name changes, class changes, companion system, the specific transformations and buttslut mode. Its too late for TITS to add many of these things as Savin said because of how late in the development it is it'll take too long to ever finish.

I think it was the writer Nonesuch that put it best that Fen never goes around to finishing one thing because he gets bored with it quickly so thats why while there's a list a mile long on unfinished content. Its the reason why it took years for space battles to be implemented and psionics never will be finished. But you have to keep in mind many writers already left TITS for other projects and their characters will never be completed because they don't belong to Fen. Wsan left TITS for CoC2 and Nonesuch went to make his own text game many others I forgot their names left too.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Well thats because Savin and team are way more organized and straightforward its a simple yes this will be in here and no it wont be here in what they want and have planned for the future, if you look at the game files you can already see whats planned in terms of character transformations, enemies, and scenes that are not in the game yet. Also have all the important mechanics that TITS lacks such as name changes, class changes, companion system, the specific transformations and buttslut mode. Its too late for TITS to add many of these things as Savin said because of how late in the development it is it'll take too long to ever finish.

I think it was the writer Nonesuch that put it best that Fen never goes around to finishing one thing because he gets bored with it quickly so thats why while there's a list a mile long on unfinished content. Its the reason why it took years for space battles to be implemented and psionics never will be finished. But you have to keep in mind many writers already left TITS for other projects and their characters will never be completed because they don't belong to Fen. Wsan left TITS for CoC2 and Nonesuch went to make his own text game many others I forgot their names left too.

The grand trophy of Fen's incompetence is the entirety of CoC 1. It's..half-baked to say the very least. The ending and the final push through is a very rushed spectacle, some storylines were obviously axed really hard. I think Fen himself admitted that most of CoC 1 was planned to be far more robust than what ended up being. I'm glad Wsan jumped ship lol.

And yet, even CoC 1 gives more choice and variety than TiTS. It's kinda funny.

 

[Joyvankek]

The grand trophy of Fen's incompetence is the entirety of CoC 1. It's..half-baked to say the very least. The ending and the final push through is a very rushed spectacle, some storylines were obviously axed really hard. I think Fen himself admitted that most of CoC 1 was planned to be far more robust than what ended up being. I'm glad Wsan jumped ship lol.

And yet, even CoC 1 gives more choice and variety than TiTS. It's kinda funny.

A lot of CoC content was made by the community. Just like we known from watching Bethesda's games. Community can turn a little above average games into masterpieces.
I enjoyed most of CoC1 conent, gay and futa content being the exception.

But CoC2 feels like Fen's personal fetish box, without little agency left to the player. Since he get money for that. I would say that this is something at least I can't accept or support. While gameplay wise I can see improvements. Let's be honest, the core which is porn RP, lays flat on its face.
They only thing I initially liked was kitsune transformation, because I like the idea of choices and consequences both positive and negative ones. But I'm not sure what happen to it later on, as I lost interest during my playthru.

 

[spacecorpse337]

The grand trophy of Fen's incompetence is the entirety of CoC 1. It's..half-baked to say the very least. The ending and the final push through is a very rushed spectacle, some storylines were obviously axed really hard. I think Fen himself admitted that most of CoC 1 was planned to be far more robust than what ended up being. I'm glad Wsan jumped ship lol.

And yet, even CoC 1 gives more choice and variety than TiTS. It's kinda funny.

im pretty sure you just forgot you were talking about porn IT DOESN'T NEED A GOOD STORY IT JUST NEEDS A DECENT ONE or at least some resemblance of a story for it to be decent porn the story aint the problem as long as i can look at tits and fuck some chicks im good

 

[Joyvankek]

im pretty sure you just forgot you were talking about porn IT DOESN'T NEED A GOOD STORY IT JUST NEEDS A DECENT ONE or at least some resemblance of a story for it to be decent porn the story aint the problem as long as i can look at tits and fuck some chicks im good

Not sure about TITS, but CoC2 is severely lacking in the good porn department. As at least as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Morningfrost]

with the power of guides you can avoid both those things bro

The guides don't magically put content into TiTS that isn't futa or other fetishes, so try again, I guess? Maybe you can avoid 95% of the content...but what would be the point? The story's not good enough to justify putting in that much effort for like 5% of the game.

~Morningfrost

 

[destroyerofassholes]

im pretty sure you just forgot you were talking about porn IT DOESN'T NEED A GOOD STORY IT JUST NEEDS A DECENT ONE or at least some resemblance of a story for it to be decent porn the story aint the problem as long as i can look at tits and fuck some chicks im good

By storyline I mean the porn. As in, I couldn't fuck Arona because her storyline wasn't continued after we made her warchief.

CoC1 has lots of leftover unfinished stories and scenes for characters.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

A lot of CoC content was made by the community. Just like we known from watching Bethesda's games. Community can turn a little above average games into masterpieces.
I enjoyed most of CoC1 conent, gay and futa content being the exception.

But CoC2 feels like Fen's personal fetish box, without little agency left to the player. Since he get money for that. I would say that this is something at least I can't accept or support. While gameplay wise I can see improvements. Let's be honest, the core which is porn RP, lays flat on its face.
They only thing I initially liked was kitsune transformation, because I like the idea of choices and consequences both positive and negative ones. But I'm not sure what happen to it later on, as I lost interest during my playthru.

I dunno man. Tits is his fetish box, fen has no say on CoC2, and it shows. There's far more vanilla content in CoC2 than in TiTS. Lots of non-futa in coc2.

 

[shakey2]

My beef with this game is that you are forced to party with characters. This game is designed to be impossible to beat solo according to one of the devs. If you are going to give me the option to not recruit anyone then you gotta expect there are gonna be people who try to play the loner. Also from what I've seen Savin seems like a bit of an asshole. He hates modders, cheaters, and anyone who doesn't think his design philosophy is perfect as is apparent by his past statements and actions. It's that attitude that's making it hard for me to want to support CoC2. His followers are obnoxiously loyal and quick to join in harassing people.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

The guides don't magically put content into TiTS that isn't futa or other fetishes, so try again, I guess? Maybe you can avoid 95% of the content...but what would be the point? The story's not good enough to justify putting in that much effort for like 5% of the game.

~Morningfrost

I've always wondered why so many people opt to sign their comments on forums where their names are obvious for everyone to see to begin with.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

My beef with this game is that you are forced to party with characters. This game is designed to be impossible to beat solo according to one of the devs. If you are going to give me the option to not recruit anyone then you gotta expect there are gonna be people who try to play the loner. Also from what I've seen Savin seems like a bit of an asshole. He hates modders, cheaters, and anyone who doesn't think his design philosophy is perfect as is apparent by his past statements and actions. It's that attitude that's making it hard for me to want to support CoC2. His followers are obnoxiously loyal and quick to join in harassing people.

Yeah, Savin has always been an asshole though, nothing new. Snarky comments all day every day. Being better than fen isnt exactly a high bar.

 

[shakey2]

Yeah, Savin has always been an asshole though, nothing new. Snarky comments all day every day. Being better than fen isnt exactly a high bar.

Can't say I know much about fen as a person. Only vague bits about people leaving. As for CoC, the end did feel a bit rushed for sure. But I still enjoyed CoC a hell of a lot more than most adult games on the market at the time. I know this is going to sound like a terrible comparison but for me CoC felt like the Minecraft of adult games. Though if I do play CoC these days I'm usually playing the XianXia mod.

 

[Morningfrost]

I've always wondered why so many people opt to sign their comments on forums where their names are obvious for everyone to see to begin with.

For me it's basically habit. Got into the habit like 2 decades ago back when the game forums I frequented weren't as obvious who made the posts.

~Morningfrost

 

[spacecorpse337]

By storyline I mean the porn. As in, I couldn't fuck Arona because her storyline wasn't continued after we made her warchief.

CoC1 has lots of leftover unfinished stories and scenes for characters.

well now you can fuck her so your point is moot and devloping a game is fucking time consumeing
also im fucking stupid your angry were both having a bad day

 

[NODOGAN]

I know people here normally don't like much of the Observer's kitsune content (frankly i don't dislike it, thought sometimes i skim through it since is an ungodly wall of text, Kiyoko is still one of my favorite characters of the game) but i think i noticed something strange about her: either her whole quest is a relic of the begginings of this game's lore, or Keros is a trickster in more ways than one.
Kiyoko died to a Wraith Wizard right? and as her body died her soul fled into the amber orb, correct? well...that's the thing, her SOUL fled into the astral plane, a SOUL that Keros himself admited no kitsune is born with, as when he offers his deal to you he mentions how every kitsune around is SOULESS and he is the owner of a "communal soul" to the species so: how the hell did "Kiyoko's soul" fled into the Amber Orb if she had none to beguin with? she should had ended right then and there when she received the spell so either:
A) Her entire quest is a relic of the game's first launches when the Kitsune Lore wasn't worked up to it's current state and Kitsunes had an individual soul back then and this is just an oversight on The Observer's writting.
or
B) If we're rather generous with The Observer this could be a case of Keros living up to the TRICKSTER GOD title and tricking us into giving him our soul.
what do you guys think?

 

[Megumin.]

if you look at the game files you can already see whats planned in terms of character transformations,

What transformations are planned?

Cuz I swear to god, sometime I feel like these guys forget that this game is supposed to have transformations.

After all this time we still haven't got a bee/hornet TF yet and they were some of the first races added to the game. I'm still salty that the rabbit TF is literally just humans with rabbit ears and hairy feets.

I've haven't reach the shark people yet and I'm willing to bet that it's just humans with sharp teeth and a tail or a fish lower body to give them an excuse not to add it as a transformation.

 

[Archaon11111]

What transformations are planned?

Cuz I swear to god, sometime I feel like these guys forget that this game is supposed to have transformations.

After all this time we still haven't got a bee/hornet TF yet and they were some of the first races added to the game. I'm still salty that the rabbit TF is literally just humans with rabbit ears and hairy feets.

I've haven't reach the shark people yet and I'm willing to bet that it's just humans with sharp teeth and a tail or a fish lower body to give them an excuse not to add it as a transformation.

I should've been more specific, I meant the NPC transformations. We know Cait will get super thicc in the future, the paladin lady will go full honey bimbo at some point, not sure if it's gonna be a dream but there is a dickless Kas in the image files.

I'm pretty sure they are not bothering with the overly complicated body types so that they don't have to write a multiple scene variations. Think how in TITS being a Taur is the worst in terms of having any content, since you're locked out of pretty much everything. Even when you finally have sex options its always generic as if you're just a normal human person. Writer called B for TITS won't write Taur specific scenes because he simply does not want to, to them thats like writing an entirely different and more work.

 

[Megumin.]

I'm pretty sure they are not bothering with the overly complicated body types so that they don't have to write a multiple scene variations. Think how in TITS being a Taur is the worst in terms of having any content, since you're locked out of pretty much everything. Even when you finally have sex options its always generic as if you're just a normal human person. Writer called B for TITS won't write Taur specific scenes because he simply does not want to, to them thats like writing an entirely different and more work.

Yeah, ummm no... that excuse doesn't really work when we have full-on wolf, cat people with furry paws/feet and animal faces. I wasn't talking about taur. I'm talking about how we barely get anything and some obvious transformations candidates being ignored for years. I didn't expect them to give us barely anything in exchange to getting rid of taur. There's no excuse for not having hornets transformation when It's literally like the in-game spider transformation. Just change the color and the name. There's nothing overcomplicated about the transformation.

Also I never expected that we'd get literal anime bunny boys/girls instead of anthropomorphic furry rabbits. They don't even have increased fertility...

Can someone post the shark people codex? I want to see if we're getting the bootleg version of the shark TF in TiTs

PS. Sorry if you feel targeted in my rant. No hard feelings.

 

[BlacJak]

To be fair, it's not like if you were a fully anthro rabbit would matter since they could write any and all scenes in a way that completely ignores any and all bodily features. Not only that, maybe there wasn't enough people who wanted to be full-on rabbit people for them to do it. It's like the time Fen asked if people wanted an elephant TF in TiTS, knowing they weren't going to have any content that acknowledges the TF in the first place. Most people didn't really care, and you have to think about the writing process behind all of that. When you're writing any of these scenes, whether they be codex entries, sex scenes, interactions, you're gonna have to write them all in a way that would easier plug-and-chug different adjectives for all of the possible TFs currently in the game. When you have to do that, scenes get more generic because they have to work with all TFs without breaking, or you end up writing special scenes for TFs. What I don't see anyone taking about in regards to TFs, is why don't they have any effect on your stats or give you special attacks? I miss when the game knew you were some abomination with claws, fangs, stingers and therefore used them.

 

[Archaon11111]

What I don't see anyone taking about in regards to TFs, is why don't they have any effect on your stats or give you special attacks? I miss when the game knew you were some abomination with claws, fangs, stingers and therefore used them.

I'm not sure of the whole story but I think there was an uproar about balance when that topic got brought up and people saying they will be forced to take whatever transformation is strongest compared to what they want. Not sure why thats the case since the game is already easy both on TITS and CoC2 heck I only lost a couple of times in a hundred ingame days and that because I got too horny. And yeah I agree getting a special dragon attack when a dragon morph on CoC1 was pretty awsome and made me feel powerful.

Edit: Found this comment by Nonesuch "It's not fucking semantics! The main reason we avoid locking perks behind TFs is to avoid a situation where the PC feels they have to get specific physical transformations in order to get a powerful ability, rather than crafting the sexual avatar that they want. This is stated every single time somebody asks after CoC-like TFs that give abilities! PoM was a) not Foxfire by any stretch of the imagination and b) wasn't a physical TF at all. Are you thick, or willfully misinterpreting me?"