Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Alterism]

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Bad ends not being canon is not exactly a hot take. But, character consistency going into the toilet is nonsense. The point of everything is that the kitsune, if provided an opportunity, are capable of some pretty out there stuff. That doesn't go away under a veneer of continuity unless the bad ends are nonsensical gibberish as well as well as obviously not happening.

In which case anything inside a bad end is fair game. I could write an encounter right now where the bad end is Etheryn being given a vagina and turned into the champs completely willing breeding sow and it'd be fair game because it's a bad end.

But of course it wouldn't be, for all flavors of reasons, (the champ suddenly getting that harsh of an edge, Etheryn's autonomy being stripped away because the ending requires it, what will be the lead dev's unwillingness of that to happen to his characters, etc) and it's doubtful that Savin himself doesn't understand this.

If you're going to write things characters are doing, it has to be reasonably something those characters would do. That's what makes those alternate routes compelling to begin with. Otherwise it's just poorly written nosense.

... Theoretically at least.
Even without that we know kitsune in general are capable of some awful things going from their god cursing an entire family line to people turning Rindo into bacon.

Damn, they're trying really hard to ignore shit now. Out of curiosity, how many of you would be interested in joining in the "What content would you like added?" section at Fenoxo Forums to genuinely argue against them with logic to make the game better for the sake of trolling?

Waste of time. I'm serious. This isn't some small game/animator whose taking legitimate gripes as an excuse to change their own perspective of their product. This is a 30k a month earning porn game which has solidified it's audience even through an overall decrease in month to month output.

You're not going to change the minds of anybody involved. Especially not some of the individuals with an ego that maintains it's own orbit.

> get top tier power armor that able to withstand plasma fire, light saber and supersonic gauss rifle projectiles
> tease enemy by pointing at my crotch hidden behind 5 centimeter of armored steel
> its super effective
> enemy fall on the ground and cream it pants

The LUCK's description makes it seem like it's sleek and lightweight. All other power armor provides a sexiness malus.
I personally think the demerit towards sexiness should be bigger. I might make that suggestion now that I think on it. I'm sure they'd probably be receptive of it.

 

[Deviton123]

Waste of time. I'm serious. This isn't some small game/animator whose taking legitimate gripes as an excuse to change their own perspective of their product. This is a 30k a month earning porn game which has solidified it's audience even through an overall decrease in month to month output.

You're not going to change the minds of anybody involved. Especially not some of the individuals with an ego that maintains it's own orbit.

Yeah it's a bit sad. Who knows how long they'll milk the carcass that is the game, I'd love to say money talks but with 30k a month with barely anything being developed for months or sometimes even a year plus? As much as I'd like to not insult what majority of people think, but they look pathetic at this point. Like what's going through your minds that you pay to get almost nothing in return?

 

[Walk Cycle]

Damn, they're trying really hard to ignore shit now. Out of curiosity, how many of you would be interested in joining in the "What content would you like added?" section at Fenoxo Forums to genuinely argue against them with logic to make the game better for the sake of trolling?

I go against trolling the fen forums. These people are pretty set on their thinking and it would accomplish nothing.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

What's bugging me is that the people that absolutely love Tobs' (and in some ways Bubs') Kitsune do so because they're supposed to be "grounded" characters that show disdain at the Champion for being a barbarian at the gates. They're supposed to be smug fox racists because they see you and your companions as someone beneath them. But then someone points out that the foxes are capable of evil because if you don't whoop fox ass you either get executed or turned into a baby factory, suddenly it's "nooo they don't actually do that! it doesn't really happen because you're supposed to beat them ". What happened to being "grounded?" That seems to be something smug racists would do.

Alright, I wasn't originally going to even bother talking about it but seeing as the fucker wrote very schizophrenic foxes, as someone who has also written kitsune with my friends, I have to chime in if only just to smack talk him. I think they suck. I don't like how how wishy washy this whole thing is regarding if the foxes are actually assholes or not. The only similarity between foxes I wrote, and these ones is that they're assholes. However, this nonsense that they're only dickheads if you lose to them kind of seems to lessen the impact of having asshole foxes if you're not willing to commit to it.

My foxes are assholes, unapologetic assholes. Yes, they are also gods, and they actually act like it. They're dismissive of most people and only allow people they're attracted to into their home as a sort of servant, if not an outright slave. They use slaves as a breeding source and regularly attack humans just to collect more fucktoys. Their children are absolute brats who will bite and attack people for no reason, and should you actually try to say, kick one of the kits because it keeps harassing you, big momma will show up and wipe you from existence. They bully humanity because they can.

If this game does get modded to death, I'd actually consider writing a few scenes for the foxes, either to make them commit to that dickhead personality, or make them behave more civil to the champion if you've kicked their ass. My foxes respect strength, as pretty much the only thing they will respect, so I wouldn't mind writing similar scenario.

 

[Cerneu]

I go against trolling the fen forums. These people are pretty set on their thinking and it would accomplish nothing.

lol, this is some IMAX-tier projecting.

 

[Quintilus]

The LUCK's description makes it seem like it's sleek and lightweight. All other power armor provides a sexiness malus.
I personally think the demerit towards sexiness should be bigger. I might make that suggestion now that I think on it. I'm sure they'd probably be receptive of it.

Point was/are that it feels wrong/disjointed from game reality.
Like you in an armor covered with blood, grim and dinner of your last enemy and you move your hips side to side saying non verbally 'lets do this' and enemy like 'sure, okay I see no reason why we cant do this'.

Can power armor be used with tease attacks!? Yes, but it should be not a military grade armor designed for battles in deep space.
How? By abusing fact that tits really like hyper and doesnt do anything above 'u have HH sized bust' and 'u have swimming pool sized nuts and like big pp...like really big'. How do you even move with them?????
So, power armor (with 'armor' being just for show like latex or something, so exoskeleton) that 'supports' players hyper body parts and allows unhindered movement.
In game mechanics terms, tease while wearing such 'armor' and having hyper pp/titties/ass/etc have +9000% boost to 'damage'. Downside is that each sneeze of the enemy now breaks your fucking spine gives you space aids due to lack of proper shielding. But you should give something away for being able to smoother enemies face into the dirt with gargantuan dick.

Literally five minute long solution for a kinda important problem.

 

[Deviton123]

lol, this is some IMAX-tier projecting.

Very true. But we're more deadset on the MC having the ability to be able to feel more like a badass, whereas they want them to be the complete opposite, but deny it all the same. I'd compare it to deliberately choosing to give your child a disease for the rest of their life and seeing nothing wrong with that, because it will "build their character".

Edit: changed the example to one that makes more sense

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

I'm imagining getting teased by something that looks akin to a Space Marine and I hate it. It's like getting the moves put on you by a Terminator Squad.

 

[Alterism]

with blood, grim and dinner of your last enemy

To be doubly fair we don't actually injure anybody to any degree that's not a robot. Or Nova.

I'm imagining getting teased by something that looks akin to a Space Marine and I hate it. It's like getting the moves put on you by a Terminator Squad.

I always imagine the L.U.C.K, due to it's descriptors of being relatively form fitting, was closer in size to the gear the adepta sororitas wore rather than a space marine

But like I said, the demerit for the other power armor should be lower I agree. Though I think if we were going to be extra serious, armor that isn't at least form fitting should be ineligible for tease attacks outright. That wouldn't be a whole lot of armor to be sure. But, it'd be enough.

 

[Cerneu]

Very true. But we're more deadset on the MC having the ability to be able to feel more like a badass, whereas they want them to be the complete opposite, but deny it all the same. I'd compare it to deliberately choosing to give your child a disease for the rest of their life and seeing nothing wrong with that, because it will "build their character".

Edit: changed the example to one that makes more sense

Dunno, I felt like a badass when my character just waltzed into the Kitsune Den, beat Nakano to within an inch of his life (iirc, Cait outright worried if he's dead after he faceplanted to the ground), and made Miko and Mai run away crying to Komari (them screaming at her about a insolent barbarian causing a ruckus was hilariously)

Bonus, my character's backstory was Barbarian. I actually laughed out loud when he went like "Yes, I'm a barbarian, so?".

 

[Quintilus]

To be doubly fair we don't actually injure anybody to any degree that's not a robot. Or Nova.

I exaggerated to make point clearer.
Not so deadly is least of all concerns. It just a crutch to reduce writing work. Writing non violent based interaction is much harder than 'get this mfaka on his knees and shot into his temple...or fuck him I dunno....'

 

[Alterism]

I exaggerated to make point clearer.
Not so deadly is least of all concerns. It just a crutch to reduce writing work. Writing non violent based interaction is much harder than 'get this mfaka on his knees and shot into his temple...or fuck him I dunno....'

"crutch" is a bit much of a statement. Given the game's not supposed to be particularly violent to begin with for a variety of reasons related to setting a mood. Less work? Sure. But the alternative is a waste of work that doesn't belong in the game and provides nothing towards the central goal of getting you off.

Unless you're aroused by the rougher stuff. Which this ain't the right game for that mindset.

 

[Quintilus]

"crutch" is a bit much of a statement. Given the game's not supposed to be particularly violent to begin with for a variety of reasons related to setting a mood. Less work? Sure. But the alternative is a waste of work that doesn't belong in the game and provides nothing towards the central goal of getting you off.

Unless you're aroused by the rougher stuff. Which this ain't the right game for that mindset.

I was saying that there are shouldnt be that much fights.
Like in coc2 ~90% of a fights is just to add a sex scene(s) and nothing else. Nyrea attacking you to push some eggs inside of you wouldnt lose anything, in terms of content, if she would just said 'you. me. sex. now. hmmm??', optionally presenting her..erect? shit. Porn logic in a porn game, nothing special.
"But how will player be on top/bottom in that case????7777" By option in the dialogue menu 'be on top/bottom/left/right/north/south'.
So instead of a"you exploring cave when SUDDENLY someone jumped out of the corner and attacked you" it will be a "you explore cave when SUDDENLY someone walked to you and asked for sex".

 

[Daken9]

Dunno, I felt like a badass when my character just waltzed into the Kitsune Den, beat Nakano to within an inch of his life (iirc, Cait outright worried if he's dead after he faceplanted to the ground), and made Miko and Mai run away crying to Komari (them screaming at her about a insolent barbarian causing a ruckus was hilariously)

Bonus, my character's backstory was Barbarian. I actually laughed out loud when he went like "Yes, I'm a barbarian, so?".

And then they all came running back, acting like they weren't planning to turn your character into a sex doll had they gotten the upper hand, and proceeded to keep going with the barbarian thing.

Which, fine enough. I don't dislike being the outsider in a game, quite the opposite, but it goes back to us being ultimately powerless because those characters have more agency than ours. And that's basically the character of Keros. Again, not against a god being a huge piece of shit who'll fuck with you because kek, but if even the greeks figured out Zeus was kind of a bastard who needed to sometimes get some comeuppance, i think Tobs could have beared with Keros eventually getting his (hint:we already got the pregnant busts, cause the lore at least allows for the wet dreams in the porn game).

 

[Unobtainium]

Dunno, I felt like a badass when my character just waltzed into the Kitsune Den, beat Nakano to within an inch of his life (iirc, Cait outright worried if he's dead after he faceplanted to the ground)

You felt badass for walking into the Den and 1v3ing a man? Before cait was worried about his life, wasn't she saying "Hey isn't this guy pretty confident for walking into a 1v3?"

 

[Cerneu]

And then they all came running back, acting like they weren't planning to turn your character into a sex doll had they gotten the upper hand, and proceeded to keep going with the barbarian thing.

Either way, I find Nakano to be too pathetic to hate, like an off-brand Sasuke. And the barbarian can eventually impregnate either Miko or Mai, with hilarious results.

Which, fine enough. I don't dislike being the outsider in a game, quite the opposite, but it goes back to us being ultimately powerless because those characters have more agency than ours. And that's basically the character of Keros. Again, not against a god being a huge piece of shit who'll fuck with you because kek, but if even the greeks figured out Zeus was kind of a bastard who needed to sometimes get some comeuppance, i think Tobs could have beared with Keros eventually getting his (hint:we already got the pregnant busts, cause the lore at least allows for the wet dreams in the porn game).

The "Living Gods" are indeed the weakest part lore-wise. Besides, they're not even real gods, just wraiths playing pretend.

You felt badass for walking into the Den and 1v3ing a man? Before cait was worried about his life, wasn't she saying "Hey isn't this guy pretty confident for walking into a 1v3?"

Confident? I think "arrogant" would be a better descriptor. You make it sound like I was the one who ganged up on a lone guy, when in reality it was him who rushed into battle thinking that his innate racial superiority would allow him to defeat multiple opponents at the same time. That's not confidence, that's just plain old stupidity, and yes I do feel badass wiping the floor with

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Off-brand Sasuke thought he was a ninja who could solo entire armies of mooks. Reality (and the floor) said hi.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

I was saying that there are shouldnt be that much fights.
Like in coc2 ~90% of a fights is just to add a sex scene(s) and nothing else. Nyrea attacking you to push some eggs inside of you wouldnt lose anything, in terms of content, if she would just said 'you. me. sex. now. hmmm??', optionally presenting her..erect? shit. Porn logic in a porn game, nothing special.
"But how will player be on top/bottom in that case????7777" By option in the dialogue menu 'be on top/bottom/left/right/north/south'.
So instead of a"you exploring cave when SUDDENLY someone jumped out of the corner and attacked you" it will be a "you explore cave when SUDDENLY someone walked to you and asked for sex".

I actually think that's where LT kinda wins out. If you win in a fight, you actually have the option to be the bottom anyway.

 

[TheVegnar]

lol.... they already banned anyone who said shit against them, now their own supporters are starting to throw shit into their face.

 

[Yoloman014]

lol.... they already banned anyone who said shit against them, now their own supporters are starting to throw shit into their face.

When this happen

 

[M0nte]

Someone pay Tobs for Nakano romance path.