Lemix

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Many people here didn't pay for the game, it's a pirate site after all. So at the very least their judgement isn't stained with sunk cost fallacy.
Oh, i'm was more talking about the fact that this site is just more "coomer" then others simply because its more obscure and it was a joke.
But i kinda agree, people on patreon tend to suck author off simply because there is a chance they will reply to their comment or somethin, on the other hand if you actually pay for the game you probably like it alot more and are invested, so its hardly a stretch for you to support it verbally too.
 

Lemix

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You dont?No one in these forums qualifies for good advice so just do you
So i should just do the opposite of what you say since you are obviously lying coomer, so i should just trust everyone, thx bro *starts vigorously fapping*.
 

Biostar

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Many people here didn't pay for the game, it's a pirate site after all. So at the very least their judgement isn't stained with sunk cost fallacy.
Eh, you don’t really need to pay for you to have sunk cost in something. As long as you’re even investing time into it, you can be reluctant to abandon it outright. I know I have it, otherwise I would have left long ago. I have no investment in the story or gameplay, but the handful of waifus that I like getting expanded on is what I’m here for. Only danger is the writers eventually fucking them over like with Etheryn.
 
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Many people here didn't pay for the game, it's a pirate site after all. So at the very least their judgement isn't stained with sunk cost fallacy.
As long as you’re even investing time into it, you can be reluctant to abandon it outright. I know I have it, otherwise I would have left long ago. I have no investment in the story or gameplay, but the handful of waifus that I like getting expanded on is what I’m here for.
Okay, I am going to be a bit of a devil's advocate here, but I think nowadays the phrase "Sunk Cost Fallacy" is being thrown waaaay to much as an excuse as to why X or Y has fans or enjoyers. It's REALLY easy to dismiss people who claim to like something you don't as "they invested too much time/money to admit the flaws in X". Weirdly enough, I feel tempted to return to Bethesda games, even thought we stopped talking about them a few pages ago. Mostly because I've seen streamers who shut down any person defending Starfield as "you just spend 60$ and are trying to justify it" and, while maybe it's true sometimes - it denies any actual discussion on the matter.

As much as it's difficult to admit it - on the surface, CoC2 is a perfectly serviceable Text-Based Smut RPG. Story and Narrative seems pretty interesting at first, it presents enough mechanics to make you feel like there is depth to them and game's systems and overall - it seems like a decent package.

I love Skyrim. It's combat is terrible, it's built variety is awful, most characters are forgettable and quests are stupid. I love it, because in the moment I actually don't care about it - then, when I'll watch an 8 hour analysist that shoves the game's issues in my face I'd nod, but I won't betray my feelings. I had fun.

The reason why we are harsh on CoC2 here lies on several factors.
1) We don't treat it as one and done deal. I am sure a lot of Steam positive reviews came not just from backers, but from people who brought the game, cleared like, 25-50% of content, had a decent wank or two and that's it. For us - it's basically a live-service game, where every update crushes any glimmers of potential and keeps focusing on areas that just don't make the game better or even make it works.
2) We look at it from a deeper angle, as funny as it is to say on a porn game piracy website. The analysis of characters and story here is honestly deeper than some major YouTube videogame essay channels. So, we see it's faults, one that not every single person will instantly see in the moment (again, kinda like I realized how dumb Skyrim is only after thinking about it post-playing), but where is Skyrim is just harmlessly bland and is written by a guy who thinks that's how videogame narrative should be, CoC2 feels like it's written by people similar to Neil Druckman or David Cage, where they try to sound smart when they are not.
3) At the end of the day - the game had potential. I think many of us felt it initially when it first was out, or when we first started out, but eventually, a lot of positivity faded, leaving just unpleasant feelings, partially caused by the way the authors treat it's fans.

So, if a person said they had fun with CoC2 - I wouldn't dismiss their opinion. There are many reasons one might have genuinely positive memories that aren't the result of sunk cost fallacy, coomerbrain or official discord/forums brainwashing. I am going to say it - CoC2 did give me some good wanks in the past. I don't need it anymore and the team did nothing to make me feel like I am missing out.
 

DerekMook9006

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Been playing through Monster Girl Dreams again lately and holy fuck Kotone is such an infinitely superior fox wife compared to Kiyoko.

Now that I think about it, most characters from MGD feel better overall.
She's used good though with both femdom and hypnosis fetishes.
 

DerekMook9006

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Look at this, Kiyoko's gaslighting plus their brainrot has progressed THIS far where they can't even form proper sentences anymore.
With the stockholm syndrome kicking in on top of that~~~
But I don't even like the character. Find her to be overrated and bland.
 

Meatshield236

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Okay, I am going to be a bit of a devil's advocate here, but I think nowadays the phrase "Sunk Cost Fallacy" is being thrown waaaay to much as an excuse as to why X or Y has fans or enjoyers. It's REALLY easy to dismiss people who claim to like something you don't as "they invested too much time/money to admit the flaws in X". Weirdly enough, I feel tempted to return to Bethesda games, even thought we stopped talking about them a few pages ago. Mostly because I've seen streamers who shut down any person defending Starfield as "you just spend 60$ and are trying to justify it" and, while maybe it's true sometimes - it denies any actual discussion on the matter.

As much as it's difficult to admit it - on the surface, CoC2 is a perfectly serviceable Text-Based Smut RPG. Story and Narrative seems pretty interesting at first, it presents enough mechanics to make you feel like there is depth to them and game's systems and overall - it seems like a decent package.

I love Skyrim. It's combat is terrible, it's built variety is awful, most characters are forgettable and quests are stupid. I love it, because in the moment I actually don't care about it - then, when I'll watch an 8 hour analysist that shoves the game's issues in my face I'd nod, but I won't betray my feelings. I had fun.

The reason why we are harsh on CoC2 here lies on several factors.
1) We don't treat it as one and done deal. I am sure a lot of Steam positive reviews came not just from backers, but from people who brought the game, cleared like, 25-50% of content, had a decent wank or two and that's it. For us - it's basically a live-service game, where every update crushes any glimmers of potential and keeps focusing on areas that just don't make the game better or even make it works.
2) We look at it from a deeper angle, as funny as it is to say on a porn game piracy website. The analysis of characters and story here is honestly deeper than some major YouTube videogame essay channels. So, we see it's faults, one that not every single person will instantly see in the moment (again, kinda like I realized how dumb Skyrim is only after thinking about it post-playing), but where is Skyrim is just harmlessly bland and is written by a guy who thinks that's how videogame narrative should be, CoC2 feels like it's written by people similar to Neil Druckman or David Cage, where they try to sound smart when they are not.
3) At the end of the day - the game had potential. I think many of us felt it initially when it first was out, or when we first started out, but eventually, a lot of positivity faded, leaving just unpleasant feelings, partially caused by the way the authors treat it's fans.

So, if a person said they had fun with CoC2 - I wouldn't dismiss their opinion. There are many reasons one might have genuinely positive memories that aren't the result of sunk cost fallacy, coomerbrain or official discord/forums brainwashing. I am going to say it - CoC2 did give me some good wanks in the past. I don't need it anymore and the team did nothing to make me feel like I am missing out.
Very well said. I've posted criticisms of the game, but I don't hate it, and I don't hate anyone who enjoys it. I think that many people, in their attempt to distance themselves from blind enjoyment, throw themselves too far to the other end and criticize not only the work, but the people who enjoy it. It becomes a judgement on how one enjoys media. I'm in the same boat of loving Skyrim despite it's flaws because of it's open-ended nature and malleability. Criticism of it's world, writing, and combat systems are all valid, but those flaws do not reduce my enjoyment of the game any less because I can make the little mudcrabs wear top hats and swear at you. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Part of the flaw of a lot of criticism you see is that it takes the opposite side of the classic "take every criticism as an insult," where instead any praise or enjoyment is considered an insult. That's just using criticism as an excuse to bash people, and that's just not cool. Ideally, criticism should be just be a frank discussion of perspectives. No one side is inherently better than the other, and there's no judgement for enjoying flawed works. Indeed, what others might call flaws others will call strengths. It's all a matter of perspective.

I personally critique the game to express myself, keep my analytical skills sharp, and because the game is interesting enough to discuss and analyze in the first place. And because I find it deeply amusing to see porn game junkies run face first into common literary challenges. It's hilarious seeing some of these arguments, because I've seen them before with regards to 'serious' literature. And it's not the weirdest thing I've seen either.
 

Comiies

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Very well said. I've posted criticisms of the game, but I don't hate it, and I don't hate anyone who enjoys it. I think that many people, in their attempt to distance themselves from blind enjoyment, throw themselves too far to the other end and criticize not only the work, but the people who enjoy it. It becomes a judgement on how one enjoys media. I'm in the same boat of loving Skyrim despite it's flaws because of it's open-ended nature and malleability. Criticism of it's world, writing, and combat systems are all valid, but those flaws do not reduce my enjoyment of the game any less because I can make the little mudcrabs wear top hats and swear at you. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Part of the flaw of a lot of criticism you see is that it takes the opposite side of the classic "take every criticism as an insult," where instead any praise or enjoyment is considered an insult. That's just using criticism as an excuse to bash people, and that's just not cool. Ideally, criticism should be just be a frank discussion of perspectives. No one side is inherently better than the other, and there's no judgement for enjoying flawed works. Indeed, what others might call flaws others will call strengths. It's all a matter of perspective.

I personally critique the game to express myself, keep my analytical skills sharp, and because the game is interesting enough to discuss and analyze in the first place. And because I find it deeply amusing to see porn game junkies run face first into common literary challenges. It's hilarious seeing some of these arguments, because I've seen them before with regards to 'serious' literature. And it's not the weirdest thing I've seen either.
The consequences of brain rot have been a disaster for the coomer kind
 
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Raf-Raf

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That's Kotone. She basically hypnotise you for "protection".
I am now going to admit myself to an asylum because clearly, I am the one with the brainrot.

Oh yeah, maybe that's where Kiyoko is inspired from. nowamsayin? :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
In all seriousness, when can we dick down the priestess in MGD???
 

Deviton123

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I am now going to admit myself to an asylum because clearly, I am the one with the brainrot.

Oh yeah, maybe that's where Kiyoko is inspired from. nowamsayin? :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
In all seriousness, when can we dick down the priestess in MGD???
The brainrot of TOBS' writing vs the brainrot of Lobotomy Kaisen...

Well at least one is clearly more entertaining (feel free to spam some memes about it)
 

Raf-Raf

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The brainrot of TOBS' writing vs the brainrot of Lobotomy Kaisen...

Well at least one is clearly more entertaining (feel free to spam some memes about it)
While I'm waiting for some updates for MGD I'm just gon' keep playing a game called eraTW.
And I haven't had that much fun since I played Elona and Dwarf fortress for the first time.
 
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