Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[M0nte]

None of those characters have on screen, described sex scenes that are pure voyeur and where you just stand there and watch with no other option except for Takahiro, to the best of my knowledge. Some of them are frequently mentioned as fucking other characters without your involvement, but its in cursory dialogue and not described in full. Some of them have full sex scenes you stumble across and are initially not involved in, but the player has the option to join in, or was the one who told them to have sex in the first place, or both. Some of them are involved in defeat or bad end content where someone else fucks them as part of the loss content. None of that is voyeur content. Other characters fucking each other offscreen is not voyeur content. Being given the option to join in on sex and actively refusing is not voyeur content. Voyeur content is stumbling across other characters having sex in a full, described sex scene, and having no option whatsoever but to watch it or leave, and that is absolutely not one of the more widespread fetishes of the game.

Oh, yeah, I get what you mean now. Yeah, Takahiro, besides Lusamine and Berwyn, is only one that does it like that from what I remember. Where you just stumble on it. At least with Berwyn you have to recommend him Cait. Lusamine, you need cait to do it and for you to seek it out. But the game still gives you a choice to refuse. So yeah I get you to some extent. But it is Takahiro, and as we know, Takahiro is not great. Pretty bad even.

Edit: And I just realized that I did not know what voyeur encapsulates. As it happens, It does not include stuff as you recommending someone to have sex in front of you. Well my bad.

 

[Decent-Win]

You think we get to fuck the GIlf Komari?

Yes and Wsan is the one writing it.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Ah, I feel like now we are just going in circles at this point. So yeah, for now lets just agree to disagree.

Yes, honestly everything we talk about is always in circles and I honestly don't really like arguing with you for this reason, it's an exercise in futility as neither of us will budge. Plus many of your replies are just..."but I like what you don't like"...which is inane, and I pretty much just skim through your replies and write the exact same thing, which isn't very helpful I realize.

I don't think any of our arguments have ever been constructive and I honestly don't really want to do them anymore, you've never really been a dick but I simply don't enjoy these. I'm not gonna reply to you and I expect the same.

Not to be an ass, but I genuinely don't get the way you dispute almost everything ever written on here, even if there are a lot of bad takes. Becomes a tiring slog. Then again I'd assume it'd be tiring from the other side as well, with every thread being the same fuck savin/tobs stuff.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Yeah no, at no point whatsoever has voyerism been a kink even close to the mainstream in porn games. It's on par with NTR and other cucking in popularity, being closely related to it, and while they may have vocal and irritating fans they're a tiny fraction of the overall landscape.

And it is bad, you dunce, because the whole point of a videogame is interactivity. If you wanted to be a voyeur you could just literally watch any porn video or read any smut novel or any along that genre but using games for it is fundamentally missing the point of the medium you're using, unless you're one of those specific fetishists who get off on humiliation and having others having fun while you don't

One could say finding the scene itself is interactivity. I really don't care for any of the cuck/ntr/voyeur/swap fetishes, but they have their people.

If these not having interactivity is a problem we'd have to cut away everything Tobs writes.

 

[diocletian]

Tbh I just wish you could just fuck people or things up in the game. Like there's so many times where you seem like you have a choice to do something crazy or ridiculous, but for whatever reason you're hamstrung into doing what the authors want. Like the entire corruption thing may as well not exist, cause I literally noticed no differences between being fully corrupted and fully pure. Or even choices that really have any kinda rippling effects on the game. Like in TiTs you could nuke Myrellion, or in CoC1 you could straight up not have access to areas or weapons because of your corruption or the lack thereof. Hell, you fucked up entire followers irreversibly by corrupting them.

I don't know if they're planning on doing something with this down the road so I might be wrong right now, but the fact that there aren't any really consequences for your actions other than the ones forced on you is kinda wack. Like why can't you tell Cait to fuck off with high corruption, or making Etheryn your slave or whatever. I get interactivity is hard to write and plan out in game, but if you aren't really going to have interactivity you might as well make it a visual novel. It's still a decent game, but it really does suck that they don't give the player any consequences for their choices

 

[Mandoto]

Tbh I just wish you could just fuck people or things up in the game. Like there's so many times where you seem like you have a choice to do something crazy or ridiculous, but for whatever reason you're hamstrung into doing what the authors want. Like the entire corruption thing may as well not exist, cause I literally noticed no differences between being fully corrupted and fully pure. Or even choices that really have any kinda rippling effects on the game. Like in TiTs you could nuke Myrellion, or in CoC1 you could straight up not have access to areas or weapons because of your corruption or the lack thereof. Hell, you fucked up entire followers irreversibly by corrupting them.

I don't know if they're planning on doing something with this down the road so I might be wrong right now, but the fact that there aren't any really consequences for your actions other than the ones forced on you is kinda wack. Like why can't you tell Cait to fuck off with high corruption, or making Etheryn your slave or whatever. I get interactivity is hard to write and plan out in game, but if you aren't really going to have interactivity you might as well make it a visual novel. It's still a decent game, but it really does suck that they don't give the player any consequences for their choices

Yeah, the game is pretty tame in the corruption department right now. Honestly, I blame that on Savin. As much as I dislike Fenoxo, atleast he included (or possibly even enforced) some possible, significant pc made changes in his games.

 

[James3]

Seemed like someone was saying on here that you can get less "Fuck off" behavior from Kinu and Kiyoko when not trying to steer things toward incest if you raise Kinu in that Astral Plane nest for a while before freeing. Any truth to that?

How bad is that with all options in total if you don't want incest with them at all?

 

[throbzombie]

On the subject of Cait and corruption, there is an old CRPG I like playing called Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura. Not to give anything away, but your first companion, a white mage whom you are expected to keep in your party for the rest of the game, has a unique mechanic to him. While other companions will refuse to join your party or leave, depending on your karma, his karma will change to reflect yours, from lawful good to chaotic evil, and his personality will change to reflect that. He'll still be your white mage no matter what, but he will turn into a bloodthirsty psychopath with poor manners if you go around eating kittens and such. Cait having a similar mechanic would be fucking amazing, don't you think?

 

[blargballs]

On the subject of Cait and corruption...depending on your karma, his karma will change to reflect yours, from lawful good to chaotic evil, and his personality will change to reflect that...Cait having a similar mechanic would be fucking amazing, don't you think?

This kind of mechanic is planned, iirc, but they're barely even scraping the plot forward at this point, let alone adding the "corruptable companions" mech.

 

[Bulk Biceps]

Dear dev. I just wanted to say your game Corruption of Champions 2 is one of the few games that I end up continuing to play regardless of how far I got in terms of story. But I recently found out that there was a first game to the current one, which made me face palm so hard (I'm an idiot sometimes )! Now here is my issue, I cant play (Corruption of Champions) it due to it needing flash player which to my rediscovered stupidity is no long available... Is there a possibility to put Corruption of Champions on the current program so I and/or others may have the opportunity to experience your first Corruption of Champions. I'm not sure if this too much of an ask and I apologize if it is (also I wasn't sure how I can send this message directly to you so I posted it here).

 

[DZ666]

I really wish the game would just let you straight up kill your enemies in more of the encounters that you come across. So many of those freaks could do to be purified.

 

[Alpharoch]

anyone know if there are Fated names for coc2? like in coc1 and tits

 

[Archaon11111]

I really wish the game would just let you straight up kill your enemies in more of the encounters that you come across. So many of those freaks could do to be purified.

Well you can kill the Alurane, Centaur Warband, Imps, and technically destroy the whole Orc camp.

Had you made this statement on the fenoxo forum you'd be labelled as a psychopath with a murder boner or probably be warned by the moderators. I get its annoying seeing the same character 20 times when you have zero interest in them but all you can do is skip them.

 

[DZ666]

Well you can kill the Alurane, Centaur Warband, Imps, and technically destroy the whole Orc camp.

Had you made this statement on the fenoxo forum you'd be labelled as a psychopath with a murder boner or probably be warned by the moderators. I get its annoying seeing the same character 20 times when you have zero interest in them but all you can do is skip them.

That's pretty much the primary reason for it. I wish it would just let me wipe them out so they'd stop popping up in the damned RNG. Just give me some meaningless corruption points and lets move on. For real though, if something attacks me, I should be allowed to kill it.

 

[Duke Greene]

That's pretty much the primary reason for it. I wish it would just let me wipe them out so they'd stop popping up in the damned RNG. Just give me some meaningless corruption points and lets move on. For real though, if something attacks me, I should be allowed to kill it.

Completely agree and one of the biggest reasons I play the first game with the /hgg/ mod. So I can finally get rid of Ceraph, Tamani, that annoying Elk thing... Too bad I still can't kill Akbal.

 

[KhanAntonio]

Completely agree and one of the biggest reasons I play the first game with the /hgg/ mod. So I can finally get rid of Ceraph, Tamani, that annoying Elk thing... Too bad I still can't kill Akbal.

You can turn him into a kitten.

 

[kazama19jin]

The more I read about this Tobs dude the more it feels like he's writing for himself and not the player/game.

 

[gregers]

Dear dev. I just wanted to say your game Corruption of Champions 2 is one of the few games that I end up continuing to play regardless of how far I got in terms of story. But I recently found out that there was a first game to the current one, which made me face palm so hard (I'm an idiot sometimes )! Now here is my issue, I cant play (Corruption of Champions) it due to it needing flash player which to my rediscovered stupidity is no long available... Is there a possibility to put Corruption of Champions on the current program so I and/or others may have the opportunity to experience your first Corruption of Champions. I'm not sure if this too much of an ask and I apologize if it is (also I wasn't sure how I can send this message directly to you so I posted it here).

The dev doesn't hang here. Try the forums at fenoxo dot com if you want to get in touch with them.

CoC is probably not getting ported any time soon. For now, you can try downloading a standalone flash player from the adobe website to play it with.

 

[throbzombie]

The more I read about this Tobs dude the more it feels like he's writing for himself and not the player/game.

Yep, that's Tobs in a nutshell.

I really wish the game would just let you straight up kill your enemies in more of the encounters that you come across. So many of those freaks could do to be purified.

Yeah, at the very least, we should get the option to get rid of them permanently.

 

[Mr Technician]

Blissfully we can also play other games if this one will disappoint the taste of a person. Could always search for them here at forum, by including multiple tags. Not many close to this one. Most of them would have also less content.
The reason this game is great and always was at least for me - very good story with smut in text of many kinks, including good picture art. And those were coupling in togheter.
I couldn't just imagine only by the text whats happening or how the characters looks like in scenes. And only by imagination i would have totaly different picture in my mind than those presented on the arts. And those were good in game arts - dont get me wrong.
From above perspective i dont think that all of the arts will ever meet any expectations whatsoever. For me - was the cultural issue i have found to be distracting - in the color descriptions of the hair. (thanks for someone else pointing this out to me)
But that actually ruined the mood for me - you know the redhair which some see it as actual orange and others say its red, dayumn.
So you know - when i see more and more mismatches like that - at least to my mind - this game gets lower and lower grade for me than it had many months ago in the past.