Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Rougrou1597]

0.4.46 Patch Notes:

• There’s a new NPC in the baths, Klemaia: a marefolk dickgirl with a fat cock and a lovely harem of elves. (by Wsan)
• Said marefolk can impregnate the PC.
• New CGs: Tui in her fishnets and Aileh taking a bath by Akira, Daliza showing off her muff before you scissor by Morrya.

I mean the link for the download

 

[NODOGAN]

All I can say is that you should save yourself from creating salt by avoiding the den 'coz it forces the Kinu content to you in random intervals.

But I wanna fuck Kohaku and occasionally buy useful stuff from her stock D:

 

[Raf-Raf]

But I wanna fuck Kohaku and occasionally buy useful stuff from her stock D:

Well, you can risk it.
Just pray that it doesn't trigger when you move around the den.

 

[NODOGAN]

After finishing the "High Ground" sidequest I gotta say 2 things:
1) Tobs & Alypia make a nice writing team (I'll admit the Star Wars refferences made me snicker more than once.)
2) YES! I'm not the only one who thinks Sanders looks like Obi-Wan! (no but for real what a nice sidequest, love me the ring for my Blackmage character!)

 

[Link_Xp4444]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if there was an end-game kind of quest where your character became the 8th Divine in order to fight the Abyssal Thing, or whatever it's called.

Of course, this quest would have to be insanely difficult and involve all seven of the current Divines, as well as spit in the face of the developers desires to not make the game a power-fantasy.

 

[MoneyMan181]

This game doesn't have nearly enough agency, in my opinion, to be considerer a fully fledged power fantasy. Sends you down a power trip every now and then, sure. But if just as many times, or near enough, any hold i might have over my character is yanked away from me because some writer needs them for their OC to shine, then i'd say we're not talking about Dragon Age: Origins for sure. More like Final Fantasy or something.

Like, sure, we're playing the hero, but most of the time we're also merely going down the beaten path, or railroad more like since major choices that don't strictly involve sex mostly split between worthless ones (Garth's family quest) and unilateral ones (Option A for access to the orc tribe/Option B for fuck all).

Again, maybe a power trip here and there, but i struggle to call this a power fantasy when i'm not even allowed to choose wether or not my character should invite Cait the turboslut, also a groomer in training, to his kid's batpism

Also please Brienne stop asking for advice to that cat every time you get pregnant, jesus h christ

I don't think player agency really needs to be considered THAT much when it comes to making a power fantasy. Let's say you're playing some other porn game where you have a harem, nobody really dislikes you, your character manages to bullshit their way out of situations, etc. If you're meant to self-insert as the main character(which you often are), I'd still view it as a power fantasy even if you don't have explicit control over the character's action. You're still in the position of power and living it up with no real downsides. DOOM is a power fantasy even if you play as a predefined character because you're the one wielding that power. Harem anime are power fantasies because we put ourselves in the protag's shoes since they're usually so normal. DOOM sure as hell is a rail-road but it's definitely still a power fantasy.

This game keeps progressively elevating your status and doesn't really take it away in many situations besides kitsune content. You start out as a random nobody that's going to the marches for their own reason. Then you become an unknown quantity due to getting hit by portal magic and Kasyrra becoming interested in you. Then you start out on a quest to stop this big bad demon lady from taking over the world. Then you become champion of a village and an entire race of people. You see where I'm going with this, right? The only times the game brings the player back down from the power trip outside of kitsune content are... all I can think of are loss scenes. The fact that you can actually choose which content you want to see just adds to the power fantasy imo.

Oh I've been part of club now since the moment you were able to free them lol
I don't think I've even met a single individual who plays the VN who doesn't have at least a single complaint about the shitsune content. It really bugs me cause it you took out the spiteful, salt mine portion of the content, the kitsune content would be amazing.

Honestly I think ANY content involving TOBS is fucking trash. The way he writes even outside of kitsune shit just drives me up the wall. Guy does not know how to tone down the word count for shit and expects you to give a shit about all these useless words. I don't need an ENTIRE FUCKING PAGE for you to describe the upper levels of the kitsune tree TOBS. I don't need you to write some never-ending thing about touching some Fox-girl's fluffy ears and have her orgasm from it.

The guy just throws never ending words at your face and expects you to give a shit. Like wow very epic word count my dude but why should I engage with your content when you do absolutely nothing to make it appealing besides some mediocre sex scenes? So all these dumbass kitsune cunts my PC can easily murder can treat me like shit except for one of them? I say one and not two because Kiyoko treats you as if you don't matter despite being your spouse. Kohaku is the only decent person there. The whole Gweyr family conflict isn't any better. Not a single person in that family is particularly likable but the dude writes it as if the reader or the PC is personally invested in any of it. Garth is a grumpy and stoic dude who barely talks and certainly doesn't talk about anything meaningful, garret is just some kid in the sticks wanting to be bigger than he is, and Gwyn is just some girl you can dump babies into. But yeah sure, write some "wholesome" thing about a chick who slaughtered a bunch of kids/teenagers reunite with her family or some shit.

Fuck that feels good to get off my chest. TOBS content is really the only content I particularly dislike in the game and it fucking sucks so much of his shit is a pretty big chunk of the game. He does not know how to be concise and writes these unnecessarily long word vomits that just expect you to give a shit even though all of his characters are pretty flat and boring.

Inb4 someone calls me a hypocrite for complaining.

 

[Bulk Biceps]

I mean the link for the download

This is for pc, just so you know.

0.4.46 Patch Notes:

• There’s a new NPC in the baths, Klemaia: a marefolk dickgirl with a fat cock and a lovely harem of elves. (by Wsan)
• Said marefolk can impregnate the PC.
• New CGs: Tui in her fishnets and Aileh taking a bath by Akira, Daliza showing off her muff before you scissor by Morrya.

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[WazaQQXOXO]

I'm not really a Cait fan but I'm interested on how a turbo-sloot become a MEGA slut in future updates.
And hey, to them:
Age is just a number.

I didn't think of saving the screenshots / links when I came across them, but basically, building Molloch-Baal's temple will result in Cait fully embracing her faith to her patron god, turning her into a full-time prozzie. You'll find more information in Fen's forum.

Spoiler: Cait's corruption path

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[CatPerson 25]

I didn't think of saving the screenshots / links when I came across them, but basically, building Molloch-Baal's temple will result in Cait fully embracing her faith to her patron god, turning her into a full-time prozzie. You'll find more information in Fen's forum.

Spoiler: Cait's corruption path

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So what he's saying is Cait is the same at the end of her ''corruption'' as she was at the start of the game,from turbo slut to a turbo slut,then again I was banned from the discord for poiting out how their church/religion is just a den of groomers that try and sell you the idea of having your future child become a whore,they even have the balls you charge you for the ''privilege'' of it .

 

[Melanogaster]

On the temple just remember if you do like Cait (for some reason) then building the temple will lock you out of a serious relationship with her or un turboing the sloot if you will. Plus if you don't build it you aren't funding child groomers...

Huh? Explain please.

 

[CatPerson 25]

Huh? Explain please.

Well she explains that children born to the cults followers are taught it's values along with all it's traditions ,basically the kids are taught from childhood to be turbo sluts for the cult , before Cait explained that I was under the impression people just joined the cult of their own will as adults , as you can imagine this revelations caused quite the uproar .

 

[Daken9]

If you mean the groomers bit, the temple basically takes in kids, raises them up until they're 18 (so sayeth God Patreon) and then gives them the choice to either make their way into a world they never got to experience 'cause they were locked away in a brothel, or work.

If you mean the no serious relationship bit, Cait basically graduates to employed prostitute if the temple's built, whereas before i guess she was a free agent? Not sure what difference it makes. I mean, anyone wanting to put that stinky cat on lock must be looking to get cucked, so the more the better... ?

Me personally i built it because there's a Kaz scene in there. Plus, Cait's trailer trash friend offering up her womb for pocket money while i got a (proper) harem cats, Brienne and Arona all gravid and STD free is just plain amusing.

 

[CatPerson 25]

If you mean the groomers bit, the temple basically takes in kids, raises them up until they're 18 (so sayeth God Patreon) and then gives them the choice to either make their way into a world they never got to experience 'cause they were locked away in a brothel, or work.

If you mean the no serious relationship bit, Cait basically graduates to employed prostitute if the temple's built, whereas before i guess she was a free agent? Not sure what difference it makes. I mean, anyone wanting to put that stinky cat on lock must be looking to get cucked, so the more the better... ?

Me personally i built it because there's a Kaz scene in there. Plus, Cait's trailer trash friend offering up her womb for pocket money while i got a (proper) harem cats, Brienne and Arona all gravid and STD free is just plain amusing.

Imagine paying a groomer cultist to have your child when you have a happy and willing cat harem,a busty amazon cowgirl and orc warchief .

 

[MSGTNP]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if there was an end-game kind of quest where your character became the 8th Divine in order to fight the Abyssal Thing, or whatever it's called.

Of course, this quest would have to be insanely difficult and involve all seven of the current Divines, as well as spit in the face of the developers desires to not make the game a power-fantasy.

That's a power fantasy so nope, never gonna happen.

I don't think player agency really needs to be considered THAT much when it comes to making a power fantasy. Let's say you're playing some other porn game where you have a harem, nobody really dislikes you, your character manages to bullshit their way out of situations, etc. If you're meant to self-insert as the main character(which you often are), I'd still view it as a power fantasy even if you don't have explicit control over the character's action. You're still in the position of power and living it up with no real downsides. DOOM is a power fantasy even if you play as a predefined character because you're the one wielding that power. Harem anime are power fantasies because we put ourselves in the protag's shoes since they're usually so normal. DOOM sure as hell is a rail-road but it's definitely still a power fantasy.

This game keeps progressively elevating your status and doesn't really take it away in many situations besides kitsune content. You start out as a random nobody that's going to the marches for their own reason. Then you become an unknown quantity due to getting hit by portal magic and Kasyrra becoming interested in you. Then you start out on a quest to stop this big bad demon lady from taking over the world. Then you become champion of a village and an entire race of people. You see where I'm going with this, right? The only times the game brings the player back down from the power trip outside of kitsune content are... all I can think of are loss scenes. The fact that you can actually choose which content you want to see just adds to the power fantasy imo.



Honestly I think ANY content involving TOBS is fucking trash. The way he writes even outside of kitsune shit just drives me up the wall. Guy does not know how to tone down the word count for shit and expects you to give a shit about all these useless words. I don't need an ENTIRE FUCKING PAGE for you to describe the upper levels of the kitsune tree TOBS. I don't need you to write some never-ending thing about touching some Fox-girl's fluffy ears and have her orgasm from it.

The guy just throws never ending words at your face and expects you to give a shit. Like wow very epic word count my dude but why should I engage with your content when you do absolutely nothing to make it appealing besides some mediocre sex scenes? So all these dumbass kitsune cunts my PC can easily murder can treat me like shit except for one of them? I say one and not two because Kiyoko treats you as if you don't matter despite being your spouse. Kohaku is the only decent person there. The whole Gweyr family conflict isn't any better. Not a single person in that family is particularly likable but the dude writes it as if the reader or the PC is personally invested in any of it. Garth is a grumpy and stoic dude who barely talks and certainly doesn't talk about anything meaningful, garret is just some kid in the sticks wanting to be bigger than he is, and Gwyn is just some girl you can dump babies into. But yeah sure, write some "wholesome" thing about a chick who slaughtered a bunch of kids/teenagers reunite with her family or some shit.

Fuck that feels good to get off my chest. TOBS content is really the only content I particularly dislike in the game and it fucking sucks so much of his shit is a pretty big chunk of the game. He does not know how to be concise and writes these unnecessarily long word vomits that just expect you to give a shit even though all of his characters are pretty flat and boring.

Inb4 someone calls me a hypocrite for complaining.

dam boy, you went hard on Tobs xD
Def on the hate crazy train now lol

In all seriousness however, I do mostly agree with you, his stuff is usually overly detailed and drawn out when it doesn't need to.

 

[Deleted member 1660801]

Kohaku is the only decent person there

See? Kohaku best girl

 

[Daken9]

I don't think player agency really needs to be considered THAT much when it comes to making a power fantasy. Let's say you're playing some other porn game where you have a harem, nobody really dislikes you, your character manages to bullshit their way out of situations, etc. If you're meant to self-insert as the main character(which you often are), I'd still view it as a power fantasy even if you don't have explicit control over the character's action. You're still in the position of power and living it up with no real downsides. DOOM is a power fantasy even if you play as a predefined character because you're the one wielding that power. Harem anime are power fantasies because we put ourselves in the protag's shoes since they're usually so normal. DOOM sure as hell is a rail-road but it's definitely still a power fantasy.

This game keeps progressively elevating your status and doesn't really take it away in many situations besides kitsune content. You start out as a random nobody that's going to the marches for their own reason. Then you become an unknown quantity due to getting hit by portal magic and Kasyrra becoming interested in you. Then you start out on a quest to stop this big bad demon lady from taking over the world. Then you become champion of a village and an entire race of people. You see where I'm going with this, right? The only times the game brings the player back down from the power trip outside of kitsune content are... all I can think of are loss scenes. The fact that you can actually choose which content you want to see just adds to the power fantasy imo.

I mean, Liaden and Azzy, Daliza and Jae'lyn, the entirety of Cait, most of Tobs' content post-amulet, Agni, the upcoming Ryn content, and so forth and so on. Not the best analogy but if every now and then Doomguy was made to feel absolutely powerless solely 'cause fuck him, i think the whole experience would feel quite different. Hell, that the rest of the game is badassery after badassery would make the shitty parts stand out even more. And that's really what i meant by railroad, forcing the player to go throught content questionable at best, and not just that but also have (what should be) my character go along with it.

Like, ultimately to me a power fantasy means being or feeling in control, either through gameplay that lands itself to the notion (DOOM) or a story that lets me be/do whatever the hell i want (Dragon Age: Origins is probably the best example). If in a game like this one you can't do the latter then yeah.

Having said that though, i will say one can carve a fine enough power fantasy out of this game by studiously avoiding all the content they will not enjoy. But still. You kinda have to eat the turd first, so it's more like grinding a goddamn one-shotting dragon and his whole stupid fucking area in Dark Souls (2) until he's your bitch. The souls feel nice, but some of your soul gonna be drained in the attempts

 

[Raf-Raf]

Klemaia: a marefolk dickgirl with a fat cock

There goes all my interest in coming back for the update...

 

[Wrynn13]

Huh? Explain please.

Building/not building the temple is supposed to be a turning point for Cait, one path locks her into temple service or turbosloot, the other an actual relationship. Supposedly. This is all based on things said are "in the pipeline" so who knows what will change by then cause Savin is too lazy to code it. Also they are totally child groomers in that temple and the game needs the option to let the player start culling some wraiths.

 

[Kuritzkale]

Holy shit. Finding this forum of... porn games? Whatever this is? After looking for what people were saying about the kitsune content in CoC2 has me feeling SO vindicated. As someone who is a complete outsider to this entire community, it's incredibly obvious to even me how poorly written the kitsune content is, and how genuinely out of place it seems in the game as a whole.

It seemed really suspect to me when... literally all of the content in this area was written by the same guy, and how... unsexy? it all was. The dude just goes on and on and his porn scenes are SO boring, and once I got to like the third character who was explaining how complicated their culture is, and how I could NEVER grasp how awesome they are even once their god turned me into one of them (gigantic mistake), I understood how far up his own ass the writer must be. Who does this content appeal to? People who play their porn games for the political intrigue of boring japanese foxes?

And what is up with him adding characters that don't have porn scenes? Like, no offense, but in a game like CoC2, I think it's pretty reasonable to expect every character to be fuckable (minus children, although idk why those are really in the game to begin with, and even then I still think Kinu should be fuckable). This dude adds a shortstack MILF fox, and she's completely unfuckable. I went through the entire kitsune den hoping beyond hope to unlock the ability to fuck that fox and was sorely disappointed.

At least it has Rindo. The only character I like (besides the MILF). But even her content is filled with stupid bullshit and even when I take this poor fox as my ""concubine"" the writer feels the need to remind me that "erm actually, this is just temporary and you shouldn't take it serious. It's just political." oh well, at least there are a bunch of poorly written sex scenes involving her where the writer keeps retreading the same "shes beautiful BECAUSE of her scars" bullshit. Yeah, I know. So write good porn and not gigantic walls of text with like 3 lines of dialogue from the character I'm supposedly fucking. She seems real into it, man.

Also, I like Cait. Just felt like I needed to get that out there because it seems like a lot of people dislike her for admittedly reasonable reasons, but I think she's alright. I do wish her writer would stop with the weird cuck shit though, it feels weird for characters to be fucking when the PC isn't involved to some extent. I don't even mind cucking content being in the game, as long as the player themselves chooses to engage with it. Also her spiel about non-monogamy before you fuck her for the first time is just cringe and unnecessary. No other character goes "hey before we fuck I'm not exclusive to you, I'm going to fuck whoever I want whenever I want" like man if I'm not cool with that I just won't click on the sex scenes that involve you and another character. I don't get how the game doesn't understand shoving that content in the players face without them really choosing is stupid. Also also Salwah is insufferable and the worst character in the game, which sucks because her art is really hot.

And add more Berwyn content.

Anyway, needed to get this out there. Been having a great time reading through this gigantic thread. Sorry for making this so long.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Holy shit. Finding this forum of... porn games? Whatever this is? After looking for what people were saying about the kitsune content in CoC2 has me feeling SO vindicated. As someone who is a complete outsider to this entire community, it's incredibly obvious to even me how poorly written the kitsune content is, and how genuinely out of place it seems in the game as a whole.

It seemed really suspect to me when... literally all of the content in this area was written by the same guy, and how... unsexy? it all was. The dude just goes on and on and his porn scenes are SO boring, and once I got to like the third character who was explaining how complicated their culture is, and how I could NEVER grasp how awesome they are even once their god turned me into one of them (gigantic mistake), I understood how far up his own ass the writer must be. Who does this content appeal to? People who play their porn games for the political intrigue of boring japanese foxes?

And what is up with him adding characters that don't have porn scenes? Like, no offense, but in a game like CoC2, I think it's pretty reasonable to expect every character to be fuckable (minus children, although idk why those are really in the game to begin with, and even then I still think Kinu should be fuckable). This dude adds a shortstack MILF fox, and she's completely unfuckable. I went through the entire kitsune den hoping beyond hope to unlock the ability to fuck that fox and was sorely disappointed.

At least it has Rindo. The only character I like (besides the MILF). But even her content is filled with stupid bullshit and even when I take this poor fox as my ""concubine"" the writer feels the need to remind me that "erm actually, this is just temporary and you shouldn't take it serious. It's just political." oh well, at least there are a bunch of poorly written sex scenes involving her where the writer keeps retreading the same "shes beautiful BECAUSE of her scars" bullshit. Yeah, I know. So write good porn and not gigantic walls of text with like 3 lines of dialogue from the character I'm supposedly fucking. She seems real into it, man.

Also, I like Cait. Just felt like I needed to get that out there because it seems like a lot of people dislike her for admittedly reasonable reasons, but I think she's alright. I do wish her writer would stop with the weird cuck shit though, it feels weird for characters to be fucking when the PC isn't involved to some extent. I don't even mind cucking content being in the game, as long as the player themselves chooses to engage with it. Also her spiel about non-monogamy before you fuck her for the first time is just cringe and unnecessary. No other character goes "hey before we fuck I'm not exclusive to you, I'm going to fuck whoever I want whenever I want" like man if I'm not cool with that I just won't click on the sex scenes that involve you and another character. I don't get how the game doesn't understand shoving that content in the players face without them really choosing is stupid. Also also Salwah is insufferable and the worst character in the game, which sucks because her art is really hot.

And add more Berwyn content.

Anyway, needed to get this out there. Been having a great time reading through this gigantic thread. Sorry for making this so long.

Looks like we have another member to our sad lot of salt miners in this salt mine.
Welcome to the crew.