Wrynn13

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The timing on some of these quests versus the info they give are so weird sometimes. Like you get the in world explanation about the anti death tears only after doing Cait's slut temple/choosing not to build it. The tears had been available long before this point though. Also, Vivienne's whole thing about freaking the player out about how demon waste material (cum, milk, etc) is just raw transformation stuff is after you've already dealt with the imps and demons for a while. Plus demon codex not unlocking until the end of act 1. Pacing is weird, yo.
It's almost like the game is written in a disjointed fashion by people with poor communication skills and the project manager is too lazy to be bothered meshing it together.
 

Kuroimi95

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The timing on some of these quests versus the info they give are so weird sometimes. Like you get the in world explanation about the anti death tears only after doing Cait's slut temple/choosing not to build it. The tears had been available long before this point though. Also, Vivienne's whole thing about freaking the player out about how demon waste material (cum, milk, etc) is just raw transformation stuff is after you've already dealt with the imps and demons for a while. Plus demon codex not unlocking until the end of act 1. Pacing is weird, yo.
So true, especially for Viviane stuff, lemme put it down :

To have this explanation, you need to get at least 10 Succubus Milk (1 to unlock the quest, then she asks for 9 more)
But to get Succubus Milk, you need to either (according to wiki, which is the main source of information for any player) :
  • Grind A LOT of cultists/imps, relying on 3.33% drop rates (the only way you could get this dialog without ever progressing the main story)
  • Grind Goblin Succubus, relying on 33.3% drop rates (Only appears after the whole Winter City thing, so at this point you should know quite a bit about demons, and is probably the most "common" way to grab 10 of them)
  • Grind Painted Demons, relying on 3.33% drop rates (Only appears after the whole Winter City thing, but why would you grind them when Goblin Succubus are a much better alternative)
  • Buy it from Farrah (which is in the Wayfort, and only appears also after the Winter City thing, but is a bit costly for early game (at least for me it was, unless you grind Painted Demons for money, or wait to have access to the minotaur city or whatever) )
So honestly, I don't know why the fuck would the PC be that surprised, unless you're a pure unga bunga Champion who never asks questions to other characters, and never fucks demons either

It would've been more interesting if she discovered something else about demons, for example why they do "steal" your soul (and by why I mean why they have the power to do that, and why they do it), or why losing your soul changes you that much
 
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But anyways hows the brienne family patch been treating ya guys.Im commited to play the fen games around Xmas when ill have the time and have stacked on some more content(especially in the case of coc2) so a first impressions would be helpful(Also iirc the brienne family addition has been smt that was notoriously WIP for years upon years and now its finally here.)So is it anything to what you ancients expected?
It's still incomplete but the scenes with Cassia are good, the variety of scenes that occur depending on when you visit is nice, and I just like the family vibes.
 

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The more girls with pee pees I see, the more I wonder if these games are leading to some kind of futa paradise, where there's 0 male population, and the only reason people can still exist is because they're just knocking each other up.

I feel like some of these guys just want to make a game where there's only girls. I can fucks with that kind of dream, but not when something like CoC or TiTS is supposed to be a sort of catch all game where everything is spread out. Leave that to those futa-centric VN type games.
 
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Alterism

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To be fair it's not like you can just handle it with the codex like you could in TiTS.
Maybe
I guess if they made Viviane accessible with less insane RNG earlier she could be both introduced to the player extremely early (given she's an eventual party member) and also serve as a scrying glass for the various items.

Actually I guess you could go one step further where most materials are unknown to our character in general (we ARE a traveler afterall) and you figure out what they do by either using them or having her identify it. A bit of a rip off of the usual quaffing of potions in a traditional roguelike but it sure beats finding out about items well after you already know what they are and have the capability of reading their description.

Though I guess to make that more approachable you could just have the items effects readable and the little lore tidbit attached to each of them is what you find out when you get them identified.
 

MagnaSonic3000

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I think they do silly things like make things impossible to find unless you know what it is, as if this isn't just for porn and that they shouldn't really pretend to be big shot game developers. They're making a game about dicks and girl dicks, where a relationship is as fleeting as a male ant's lifespan. This isn't the older Final Fantasy games where you have the big fuck off sword locked behind some speedrun tactic (thanks 9). That's an actual RPG, and a hell a lot more complex than this garbage system.
 

atomicp

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I think they do silly things like make things impossible to find unless you know what it is, as if this isn't just for porn and that they shouldn't really pretend to be big shot game developers. (snip)
Precisely why I stopped bothering about playing it the "right way". If (and that's a big if) should I play again some time, I'll just cheat my way with overpowered stats / equips and moves. Screw random drop farming, this shit ain't an korean mmo.
 

NODOGAN

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Only reason I don't cheat in this game is...actually twofold:

1) I'm not invested enough to learn how to modify this thing.
2) Tried using the cheat program when this game was new and the "Cheater cheater wah wah!" sign appearing whenever you load or save your game was too much of a pain in the ass (specially cuz I'm a compulsor saver and if I don't save the game every time I make some progress I get anxiety.)
 

Comiies

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Only reason I don't cheat in this game is...actually twofold:

1) I'm not invested enough to learn how to modify this thing.
2) Tried using the cheat program when this game was new and the "Cheater cheater wah wah!" sign appearing whenever you load or save your game was too much of a pain in the ass (specially cuz I'm a compulsor saver and if I don't save the game every time I make some progress I get anxiety.)
Tbh you can just play charmer.Like legit bro it feels like bashing my head against a brick wall and the thing that breaks at the end is the wall.i finished the game without even knowing what kind of equipment i have.Just get tugi,azzy,arona,brienne and etheryne and let them kill everything that moves
 

NODOGAN

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Tbh you can just play charmer.Like legit bro it feels like bashing my head against a brick wall and the thing that breaks at the end is the wall.i finished the game without even knowing what kind of equipment i have.Just get tugi,azzy,arona,brienne and etheryne and let them kill everything that moves
Bro my ultimate build in this game is a Charmer, 23 Presence (human charmer noble scion) with 152 sexyness (could be way higher but don't wanna max my libido/wear a dress) using Brienne, Atugia & Grungedyr summon, welcome to AoE HELL, there ISN'T a single turn where we ain't hitting everyone on the enemy side.
 
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