Belphegor007

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So I'm behind on this shitshow so is Berwyn no longer a companion and is being done written for?
What the fuck was the point of adding a brand new random companion and then removing a beloved one! I already hated the companion system in general, but this makes favoritism and other shit worse.
 

Raf-Raf

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So I'm behind on this shitshow so is Berwyn no longer a companion and is being done written for?
What the fuck was the point of adding a brand new random companion and then removing a beloved one! I already hated the companion system in general, but this makes favoritism and other shit worse.
I mean, for a sandbox removing something is a bit off, I always find that kinda weird Starbound PTSD.
I don't really care much about all the other characters but I look at them as temporary fun before throwing them and ignoring their existence all the way~~~
 

Belphegor007

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I mean, for a sandbox removing something is a bit off, I always find that kinda weird Starbound PTSD.
I don't really care much about all the other characters but I look at them as temporary fun before throwing them and ignoring their existence all the way~~~
This is barely a sandbox as you are constantly railroaded and even in a sandbox your companions should either grow or be permanent.
Man fuck this shit, but at least now I know anything can be ruined so I don't even have to bitch about wasted potential because I'm done torturing myself with this game now that I know it has zero potential
 
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Raf-Raf

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This is barely a sandbox as you are constantly railroaded and even in a sandbox your companions should either grow or be permanent.
Man fuck this shit, but at least now I know anything can be ruined so I don't even have to bitch about wasted potential because I'm done torturing myself with this game now that I know it has zero potential
Fuck this game indeed.
But hey, with my copium in hand, surely this game will get better if we give it time. :KEK:
 

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I don't know why they don't just class a abandoned character as a community one (lets say 1.5 years abandoned being generous) that way you don't have to kill off a character's story as there are many talented writers in the community less so in their own team, if a writer gets pissy you can just say you've abandoned said character and no longer own it (should be easy to make a legal contract for that)
 

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I don't know why they don't just class a abandoned character as a community one (lets say 1.5 years abandoned being generous) that way you don't have to kill off a character's story as there are many talented writers in the community less so in their own team, if a writer gets pissy you can just say you've abandoned said character and no longer own it (should be easy to make a legal contract for that)
This is exactly what they did do.

Hugs abandoned the character, so they took it over, and gave it to a community writer (B).
 
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Now if the Devs could be quiet and finish Khor Minos and show everyone who is who, it would really slap all of us in our faces.
 

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This is exactly what they did do.

Hugs abandoned the character, so they took it over, and gave it to a community writer (B).
Considering they have abandoned the character by killing off their story not really giving it to another writer that's giving up on that character.

They wanted to kill the character off or get rid of them which they did, as they have said no more content for the character.

Passing it to another writer would be to continue the character not abandoned them.
 
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Skandranon

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Not according to Hugs, he sent a tweet that said he begged Savin to let him continue working on Berwyn, might've flip flopped but it's clear he wanted to keep working at him at some point.
Hugs, by his own admission, also has severe mental health issues.

From what I understand he voluntarily quit because of said issues, then he spent a large amount of time bad mouthing the devs and instigating various bits of drama, which got him permanently banned.
 
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I know right? These devs are working their asses off by putting so little content every update and this is how the folks talk about it?
Talk about ungrateful folks smh.
Tbf this time around the word count's pretty high, it's just that some of it is copypasta :KEK:

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And i extracted shit randomly. Think it was Skandranon who said it but yeah, way too big scope.

(Although Brihaus exists and Rina has a with Brienne variable, a without Brienne variable, a straight variable, a lesbian variable that itself splits in dom and sub, and i think that's it :KEK: )
 
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Hugs, by his own admission, also has severe mental health issues.

From what I understand he voluntarily quit because of said issues, then he spent a large amount of time bad mouthing the devs and instigating various bits of drama, which got him permanently banned.
Both sides sound suspicious to me. But, I largely find Hugs more credible. As if Hugs had abadoned his character they could have found someone else to work on it, besides B. As the devs knew B wanted to work on his own character and approved him to work on it, only to turn around and dump Berwyn onto him. There is no reason they had to do that, as if Hugs had quit due to their mental health or was forced out for their bad behavior they could have used the resources originally going to Hugs to hire a replacement writer and continued Berwyn's part in the story. Instead they choose to take B away from the content that they had promised B could work on. Only to say months later "its to hard so were axing this content."

Add to the fact that the dev's have been very public in their disinterest of writing male characters and unwillingness to hire a writer who is interested, it makes me not trust them. If they truly cared about continuing this content or the fans who wanted this content it shouldn't be any additional expense, as long as they hire a writer and pay them the same amount they were paying hugs.
 
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Both sides sound suspicious to me. But, I largely find Hugs more credible. As if Hugs had abadoned his character they could have found someone else to work on it, besides B. As the devs knew B wanted to work on his own character and approved him to work on it, only to turn around and dump Berwyn onto him. There is no reason they had to do that, as if Hugs had quit due to their mental health or was forced out for their bad behavior they could have used the resources originally going to Hugs to hire a replacement writer and continued Berwyn's part in the story. Instead they choose to take B away from the content that he had promised them they could work on. Only to say months later "its to hard so were axing this content."
This isn't how it happened, according to either the devs or B .
B was assigned to finish Berwyn before Agni. In fact, I suspect part of the reason he earned a full companion slot in the first place was based on accepting to work on Berwyn.


Add to the fact that the dev's have been very public in their disinterest of writing male characters and unwillingness to hire a writer who is interested, it makes me not trust them. If they truly cared about continuing this content or the fans who wanted this content it shouldn't be any additional expense, as long as they hire a writer and pay them the same amount they were paying hugs.
What writers?

You're misunderstanding the problem with male content. The writers straight up don't exist.
The people who write for this game come from the community. They submit content, and get approved to write stuff. People who get a track record of submitting decent content get asked/paid to do more stuff. Some of them eventually make it to staff (Tobs), and some just stay prolific community writers (B).

The community is mostly uninterested in dudes. You can see it in the polls on Patreon and 4 chan, heck, you can see it in the posts here - male content fans are extremely low.

The reason there isn't enough male content is because noone is writing or submitting any.
You can easily just pop over to their submission forums and check how much submitted content is for males.

Spoilers: it's very, very low.
 

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Hey dudes to add some light to this shitfest we have going on here, I thought to myself that I have not played coc1 in atleast a good 5-7 years or something damn it has been a while huh? So anyway I decided to download it with the popular Xianxia mod
and man does it add a LOT not all of it is perfect but most of it is good stuff, transformations actually make differences in scenes and can augment your stats to fit the race you look the most like minotaurs get boosted strength and toughness but less speed and int while elfs get basically the reverse and so on there are so many races to choose from. It also adds a shiton of perks and different build paths so yeah It is enjoyable as a rpg-rpg not as just a porn-rpg would highly recommend if you as me have not played it in a long time and want a break from coc2 with all that is going on.

Edit also found something pretty funny that they officially put in while browsing the wiki very topical look the special responses to names XD
 
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Hugs, by his own admission, also has severe mental health issues.

From what I understand he voluntarily quit because of said issues, then he spent a large amount of time bad mouthing the devs and instigating various bits of drama, which got him permanently banned.
I suppose we'll never know either way, but if I had to guess, whatever led to his ban was instigated by both parties. And while mental illness doesn't absolve Hugs from repercussions, I doubt what Hugs did was THAT bad, and it's pretty fucked up to basically delete something (without discussing it with him /letting him know) that he and others cared for out of spite . If his mental health is as poor as it seems, this could've ended a lot worse, over something so petty.
 
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I suppose we'll never know either way, but if I had to guess, whatever led to his ban was instigated by both parties. And while mental illness doesn't absolve Hugs from repercussions, I doubt what Hugs did was THAT bad, and it's pretty fucked up to basically delete something (without discussing it with him /letting him know) that he and others cared for out of spite . If his mental health is as poor as it seems, this could've ended a lot worse, over something so petty.
Eh, not something we'll ever know for sure, so it's not something I dwell on. The dev drama isn't really an area I like paying attention to, further than figuring out who's writing what.
 
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