hater45

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Objectively this is easily the most successful of all three games. It's more popular than CoC (and probably TiTs at this point) ever was, making more money, and getting more attention, and has been steadily increasing in popularity every year its existed. Not to mention actually having a chance of finishing, unlike CoC which was abandoned, or Tits which is being rushed to some kind of finish.

Saying it "failed drastically" is kind of a strong statement that I don't think can really be backed up unless you mean subjectively.
Reason CoC ended up getting abandoned was because Fen got bored and wanted to move on until people bugged him to finish it and we got that awful final dungeon that was half baked. Again, that is because the game is named as a sequel to an already established product. More successful than Tits? That is a bunch of bs because tits had a kick starter and a patron that brought in so much money that it is crazy. TiTs also had a restart and still managed to pump out more content than CoC 2 and that is pretty sad.

More popular than CoC? I guess? CoC 2 is a newer game but at CoC's peak I highly doubt it because it was the first of it's kind. Also I wasn't talking about Savin's CoC 2 project, but Slablands or that Savin RPG I think it was called that was used as a base for this game.
 

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Then you don't know Savin; he'd never do that

Go and read the text, the game, the scenes you are complaining about.
Savin has absolutely turned on other devs in the past, if you think he won't do it again then you don't know Savin. Or you are Savin and you are lying to yourself... Also I have read the scenes covering the temple and the religion, have you? You either don't know what grooming is or are in denial.
 

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As a side note, can I just say that despite the game presenting itself as sex positive, it's weirdly judgemental. This ties into the whole "just about every character is someone's OC Sex Dream," you get weirdly pressured into having sexual encounters with everyone and everything. Every situation is someone's magical realm. Which usually isn't a problem in most games because they're clear about what the game is about. But with CoC 2, it presents itself as a choice-based RPG. A sexy choose your own adventure novel. Except the narration keeps pushing you towards fucking everything and everyone, rather than presenting a buffet and allowing you to pick and choose.
If you think this game's bad in that regard, don't try out TiTs :KEK: If you want a dick and you're not into futa/gay stuff, can basically only play futa yourself because the PC is looking to get dicked down at all times. It's actually half the reason i'm into this game at all, that it makes a decent enough job at not making too many assumptions about the PC's sexual preferences prior to accessing scenes (which allows me to play a male character without needing to overlook the 24/7 lust for dick).

Also why i put Cait, Quint, Agni and all them other mary sues at around the same level. Not only i'm told what to feel for them like usual, but i'm also constantly reminded my character's inherently attracted to them. Double the shit.

Dreamer44 You can respond to multiple posts at the same time. This way the thread isn't spammed with 8 responses in a row from the same person.

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Reason CoC ended up getting abandoned was because Fen got bored and wanted to move on until people bugged him to finish it and we got that awful final dungeon that was half baked. Again, that is because the game is named as a sequel to an already established product.
Coc was abandoned in large part because it was a mess. Fen was making it all up as he went. The code was apparently hard to work with, there was no clear plan or outline, there was content that couldn't be touched because it's authors ghosted and Fen didn't want to ruffle feathers, and a long lost of other things.

TiTs was Fens shot at to take all the things he learned and apply them from the beginning. And despite not being called CoC, TiTs got huge.

More successful than Tits? That is a bunch of bs because tits had a kick starter and a patron that brought in so much money that it is crazy.
It wasn't a Kickstarter, it was a porn crowdfunding site called Offbeatr. I know, because I was in on it.

It made 200k. Quite a bit...but that's, like, a few months Patreon income. For a game that's run a Patreon for like 9 years now, not much.

Steam visibility alone ensures that CoC2 is way bigger than wither other game. 16k people bought in in the first month, and that was almost 2 years ago now. CoC2 is way, way more popular than either game ever was.



More popular than CoC? I guess? CoC 2 is a newer game but at CoC's peak I highly doubt it because it was the first of it's kind.
Being the first if it's kind is exactly why it was the least popular. It had to build its fanbase from the ground up. TiTs coopted the fanbase from CoC and built on that, CoC2 took those and built on them. Every one of these games is bigger than the one before it for that reason.
 

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Coc was abandoned in large part because it was a mess. Fen was making it all up as he went. The code was apparently hard to work with, there was no clear plan or outline, there was content that couldn't be touched because it's authors ghosted and Fen didn't want to ruffle feathers, and a long lost of other things.

TiTs was Fens shot at to take all the things he learned and apply them from the beginning. And despite not being called CoC, TiTs got huge.



It wasn't a Kickstarter, it was a porn crowdfunding site called Offbeatr. I know, because I was in on it.
Those content didn't affect the main story at all as I remember who it was. Al of them were side characters so you could of just ignored them. His mistakes in CoC still run rampant in TiTs as the game ran into a complete stand still on main content and now with his libido cut, he had to pass it to others. TiTs got huge because of again, a name attached to it. At this time everyone knew who Fen was so it wasn't hard to make a huge game again. It is like John Ramero making Daikatana and getting funding because he is a big name. Offbeatr is the same as kickstarter as they both are crowdfunding so pointing that out was a moot point. Savin's patreon is at 32 while Fen's is at 35 so in retrospect TiTs is still in the lead.

It made 200k. Quite a bit...but that's, like, a few months Patreon income. For a game that's run a Patreon for like 9 years now, not much.
A few months? At 30K a month that is about 7 months of income to start up a text game. That actually makes it even worse because where the fuck did that money go to?
Steam visibility alone ensures that CoC2 is way bigger than wither other game. 16k people bought in in the first month, and that was almost 2 years ago now. CoC2 is way, way more popular than either game ever was.
I guess? But do you have the numbers for every other game to prove it is the biggest or are you assuming? Finically yes, but CoC never had a tracker so I can't be too sure.

Being the first if it's kind is exactly why it was the least popular. It had to build its fanbase from the ground up. TiTs coopted the fanbase from CoC and built on that, CoC2 took those and built on them. Every one of these games is bigger than the one before it for that reason.
Least popular on initial but this is on a strange scale because CoC "finished" and like I said, never had anything to track it's numbers. For all we know, CoC 2 could be smaller but brings in more money because of the patreon model that never existed in the past. Plus we can't even separate patreon members from steam because people are crazy enough to buy it also on Steam to have it auto update so the numbers get weird.
 

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Those content didn't affect the main story at all as I remember who it was. Al of them were side characters so you could of just ignored them. His mistakes in CoC still run rampant in TiTs as the game ran into a complete stand still on main content and now with his libido cut, he had to pass it to others. TiTs got huge because of again, a name attached to it. At this time everyone knew who Fen was so it wasn't hard to make a huge game again. It is like John Ramero making Daikatana and getting funding because he is a big name. Offbeatr is the same as kickstarter as they both are crowdfunding so pointing that out was a moot point. Savin's patreon is at 32 while Fen's is at 35 so in retrospect TiTs is still in the lead.
Have you ever played CoC1? There's little to no main story.

Find the factory, stop it; find Zetaz, defeat him; find Lethice's Stronghold, defeat the enemies inside.

That's it. That's all you need to do.

CoC1's content was very disorganized. And heavily incomplete.
 

Genflare

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Maybe I'm off topic, and maybe this is going to be controversial, but I honestly expected (and kind of want) Quint to be something of a competitor to the MC's romance (literally the optional NTR threat, trying to either get in the pants or seduce the other companions....like how his dialogue always seems to imply!).

Though reading most of the comments here dulls the hope, maybe I'll just depend on the copium for more options.

(On that note, I was looking for hints on the Berwyn discussion originally but wtf nobody's writing much about it?)
 

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Those content didn't affect the main story at all as I remember who it was. Al of them were side characters so you could of just ignored them. His mistakes in CoC still run rampant in TiTs as the game ran into a complete stand still on main content and now with his libido cut, he had to pass it to others.
Nah, the issues with TiTs are completely different than the ones CoC, or at least, the big ones.

CoCs problem was that it started small and was never planned to get that big, and lack of planning beyond the next waifu character.

Tits problem was the opposite imo. The scale was HUGE. It initially had 20 planets planned, fleets, factions, comes ship mechano s and all kinds of crazy stuff. It gradually dropped planned features as dev went on until it got to something more reasonable - and then it had to be cut even more when Fen semi-retired.

TiTs shot too high.


TiTs got huge because of again, a name attached to it. At this time everyone knew who Fen was so it wasn't hard to make a huge game again. It is like John Ramero making Daikatana and getting funding because he is a big name. Offbeatr is the same as kickstarter as they both are crowdfunding so pointing that out was a moot point. Savin's patreon is at 32 while Fen's is at 35 so in retrospect TiTs is still in the lead.
Remember that CoC2 has both a whole other service in Subscribestar, AND Steam, of which Tits has neither. CoC2 is way bigger.



A few months? At 30K a month that is about 7 months of income to start up a text game. That actually makes it even worse because where the fuck did that money go to?
Paying people that work on the game. I did some spitballing on that not that long ago....

It's simply not a huge amount of money once it gets divvyed up between full time employees.

I guess? But do you have the numbers for every other game to prove it is the biggest or are you assuming? Finically yes, but CoC never had a tracker so I can't be too sure.
Makes more money, has far more exposure, has the benefit of the fanbase from the previous entries, has more content being submitted, etc.

CoC was popular for a game that had basically no exposure and existed basically on some random website on the internet you'd never visit unless someone told you about it.

I mean, you could say that we'll never know because we don't have hard numbers...but really, it's kinda all weighted in one direction.

Least popular on initial but this is on a strange scale because CoC "finished" and like I said, never had anything to track it's numbers. For all we know, CoC 2 could be smaller but brings in more money because of the patreon model that never existed in the past. Plus we can't even separate patreon members from steam because people are crazy enough to buy it also on Steam to have it auto update so the numbers get weird.
16000 people bought CoC2 in the first month alone.

It has about 6k patrons. Even if every single patron also bought it on Steam (wildly unlikely) that's still 10k more people who bought it than Patrons, in the first month.
 

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Maybe I'm off topic, and maybe this is going to be controversial, but I honestly expected (and kind of want) Quint to be something of a competitor to the MC's romance (literally the optional NTR threat, trying to either get in the pants or seduce the other companions....like how his dialogue always seems to imply!).

Though reading most of the comments here dulls the hope, maybe I'll just depend on the copium for more options.

(On that note, I was looking for hints on the Berwyn discussion originally but wtf nobody's writing much about it?)
Shit bait. No one likes Quinn and doing that would not make any sense cause A. Brienne is for you and B. Kiyoko ain't gonna do that either, C. WTF would you want that?! You voyeurs already get your content that drags everything else so leave those 2 out.
 

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New backers patch is out, but some people on the discord said they're having problems downloading it so be mindful of that.
 

Genflare

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Controversial, as I expected, idk it just doesn't sit right with me that a seducer wouldn't do any...seducing, I like my fair share of options, from TF, to being a fuckboy, at least it's not something illegal.
The way I saw it was Cait/Quinn for the Voyeur/ntr kinda stuff.
Brint/Brienne/Kiyoko for something a little more Vanilla.
Berwyn/Etheryn for the fem types.
Atugia, Azzy,Agni (all As) to fill some...other stuff.
and Arona....for what Orcs do
Just a personal opinion, cause he certainly felt catered to that kink/fetish IMO.

Especially now that Ber's gone (which I still don't really know what the choices do, and only got through the tower by pure luck cause I can't find anyone mentioning a method here, maybe the search function's hard to use for me).
 
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Boardguy

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He openly talks about wanting to fuck your girls & neither girl is interested in his ass. If Quinn just thought they were hot it would be fine but the guy talks about openly wanting to fuck them to your face and desires a "pity fuck" from Kiyoko. Toning down character dialog can actually reduce vitriol but Quinn, like over half the companions, ain't a fun character and like most Bubs character comes off like a jackass.
 

Genflare

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Yea, I don't really expect them to write that kind of content for him. Just saw that he's getting new content and thought it would be a decent time to bring it up, especially since he's the way he is.
Likely he'll end up filling the MaleDom fetish for female MC I'd guess?, or they just genderbend him and call it a day
 
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