Yeah but then I remember Skow's Wayfort writing and I lose interest.
You're missing the part that comes out of nowhere and dialogue keeps treating Liaden as Azzy's priority over you despite everything before and we're just suppose to accept that. Also you have to be a chick to really get involved with them (or call yourself a women without making any sort of physical change).
...Is it bad I'm hoping their lazyness will kick in and they'll just copy-paste her sex scenes?
That's my biggest thing. Never a reason to be condescending or pretending to be better/know more than someone else. If someone states their opinion, you'll never prove that opinion wrong. Sure you can convince them to change their opinion, but opinions can never be wrong because they're never right. At the end of the day, this is a story-heavy game that asks you not to focus on the story. Which is dumb, no matter how you look at it lmao
I don't know, I liked it too.
That actually kinda bummed me out the first time she asked me if I'd wingman for her. It was like, "Uh... What do you mean? I've been the person sparring with you, we've cuddled, hugged, and then saved your hive together?" Like it lets you get attached with zero warning lmao Feel like it would have been handled better if they did it like Our Red String did with Alyssa and Jeremy. You get your chance to be with her, and if you pass on it she doesn't just wait around for you to change your mind. It's not even that Liaden is a lesbian, like that's fine you do you. It's that Azzyran never gives you the chance to act on your feelings that she even reciprocates until you leave the Hive. And then you're just left out in the rain, because she gets a crush on the one person you're incompatible with.
To be fair it COULD have sense if core cleanse would take considerable time to cleanse. Like, paladin gf stayed in hive for long time -> hornied gf spent a lot of time with her -> 'hmmmmmmmmmmm, I think paladin gf have something in her, guess I should honey her' -> hive get cleansed -> 'sorry champion bf, I like you but I also like paladin gf...would you like to have threesome???'.
Yo if that were the case, I'd hate it even more. I mean, that sounds like the typical start of most IRL poly relationships (I hear about a lot of these) minus the threesome. One person some time into a relationship suddenly says they're poly, in reality, they have probably been sleeping around in secret but are tired of hiding it and want a free pass. The other person is seemingly ok with it, but actually isn't and can't leave because they are either: too attached or don't believe they can find anything better for some reason.
Well for one that's how love works. Brain chemicals are serious business. Not to mention Laiden is attractive and went out of her way to help Azzy, not unlike the PC. Also let's not ignore the fact that we can have sex with Azzy right after meeting her and that's before we're even allowed to hug her. Trying to "logic" this whole deal, especially for a porn game, is futile.
You have to understand that people are upset BECAUSE it happened. Saying "no" doesn't erase the fact that it happened.
No, I really don't understand. It's a porn game where the entire setting and point is about sexual openness. A character ASKING you, the player that fucks around all the time as is, upfront for help to get with someone. That you can shut down entirely should you wish and nothing ever comes of it afterwards. I'd understand if she went behind your back like, I wanna say, Amily in the first CoC. But she doesn't. It's dropped.
You're ignoring where I gave a much better way to implement their relationship. If we're basing her attraction to Liaden on that she "went out of her way to help Azzy" then should Azzy not turn to the player first, given we flat-out did far more? Then you could say "Well maybe Azzy has a type that Liaden fits," but that doesn't make sense either given that the PC can look exactly like Liaden. Given that the pair spent so little time together, Azzy should not be immediately chomping at the bit for a chance to date her since she isn't for you either. That's why I suggested it would be better to work it like Alyssa/Jeremy in ORS, you get your chance but if you don't show interest she'll turn her attention elsewhere. Otherwise any male-presenting PC is left wondering, "Why did I help her again?" Because it isn't like you get any worthwhile loot from the quest, or anything aside from an additional companion.
Assuming everyone plays the same character is the first mistake. Not everyone plays the same, banging whoever they can. An example being when I played CoC1 as a paladin and only ever slept with Amily because from my character's perspective she was really one of the only pure people left. He felt that while Tel'Adre might not have been as evil as the demons, they were still far from pure. Amily goes behind your back after you go behind her back. Tit for tat and two wrongs don't make a right, but credit for having some consequences for the PC's actions. Asking someone upfront/backwards/sideways doesn't matter. It's dumb, and it's forced. It's like any bad writing, the writer did not earn this moment. Because like I said, you could be the spitting image of Liaden and Azzy will still pick her. Doesn't make sense, as they hardly know each other. You can't assume the player sleeps around (or even that Azzy knows they do) because not everyone plays the game the same way.
It's in no way foreshadowed that she's going to treat Liaden better than the MC. That's why people have a problem with it. If it was just a throuple where all 3 of you could have sexy fun times together, nobody would mind.
Telling people to not self-insert themselves when the MC is made for this explicit purpose is... I'm just gonna say silly to avoid being mean. You are designed to role play these games. You are designed to put yourself in the shoes of the MC. You completely tailor their name, appearance, fighting style, morals, and relationships. The game is written in the second person for crying out loud, of fucking course people are going to project onto the MC.
Also I forgot, people just get attached to their characters. It's literally the only reason why Kiryu from Yakuza isn't in any fighting games, his creator Toshihiro Nagoshi doesn't want to see Kiryu beating up women. He's too attached to his character to make the free money that letting his character appear in a game like Super Smash, Tekken, or Street Fighter entails.
Lets say that in a 'what if' world core cleansing would take week.
With the amount of bullshit going on in the game, that's the question you're asking? It's probably one of the most believable things about a character, especially a basic bitch human priestess or whatever. There's nothing wrong with lesbians i nthe game, or lesbian relationships between her and your companion. The issue is only ever with how it's done; how they meet, what content they have, what it changes for you, and obviously how it changes the companion.
It wasn't horrible, just plot hole-y and fucky with the timeline and events a bit. Also, the real problem were stale dialogues, boring characters, even slower map traversal, and LOADS of backtracking. Like, holy fuck did you need to backtrack a lot in this game. Overall it was a worse BL2 with nonexistant villains, I don't even recall one boss from it and I've played it multiple times. It's just... worse, is all.
Dude, you're on a fucking porn games site. People come here to talk about weeb porn games, and descend into the comments to create big threads of discussion on writing, gameplay, philosophy. If you're coming here, and then jacking off to a damn text game, it's pretty damn hypocritical to call people incels for self-inserting into a character that is supposed to be a self insert by design, and getting attached and having certain feelings about characters made to have the player attach to them and have certain feelings.
I don't know anything about code but putting a backslash before every apostrophe seems like mental torture.
