Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.31] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Tau_Iota]

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Yeah. Pretty much. Like I said, I understand the people that see routes they are not on and still get upset. Like I said, it's understanding they're capable of doing that, and you could logically infer that it's always been a part of them route or not.

I stand by what I said. I think it's foolish to project so much onto a PC that you can get genuinely upset and have actual grievances at the goings on within a porn game of all things. That doesn't mean I don't advocate for people having FEELINGS, that's a fucking absurd statement, but there is such a thing as being TOO attached and needing to take a step back and practice a bit of temperance.

The world of Corruption of Champions has been around for almost 13 years (Unnamed Text Game that became CoC1 started popping up in 2010), of course people might have a soft spot for it. And also, why does the fact that there's sex in the game make it any less of value? Why should I have to distance my feelings because there's sex in the piece of media I'm currently consuming?

What you said was absurd, and I'll give you an absurd story of when I was younger when an absurd piece of media made me upset. My brother and I played Castle Crashers when it first came out together. Completed the whole thing, but he got three out of the four princesses. Being a decent older brother, he was like "Ah fine, you're the orange knight you can have the orange princess." The fucking range of emotions I felt when I

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(Castle Crashers spoiler in link). I was mad, I was upset, I was shocked, and I was laughing. Fucking Castle Crashers, a game made by Tom Fulp and Dan Paladin. If a literal meme game can make people feel more than "Haha funni" then why can't a porn game?

We're talking about our likes and dislikes in a (mostly) civil manner. I don't see where the "temperance" is needed.

Side note: No my brother didn't know what happens when you kiss the orange princess lmao

 

[Wrynn13]

I think the level of upset at things gets conflated. Disliking content does no have to mean full on frothing rage. I have a huge amount of disdain for Savin but that does no mean I walk around with a constant (metaphorical) hateboner for the guy. I find it very strange that any stated point of view expressed seems to get interpreted to the max. And to head off the inevitable "well you posted about it on a forum, you must care a great deal." argument, doing so takes very little time or effort so no.

 

[Lucky_I]

I think the level of upset at things gets conflated. Disliking content does no have to mean full on frothing rage. I have a huge amount of disdain for Savin but that does no mean I walk around with a constant (metaphorical) hateboner for the guy. I find it very strange that any stated point of view expressed seems to get interpreted to the max. And to head off the inevitable "well you posted about it on a forum, you must care a great deal." argument, doing so takes very little time or effort so no.

That's fair and true. But I would recommend considering that this particular forum of over 1.2k pages in which I could absolutely, without much exaggerating, say that roughly half of it is complaining about the same shit over and over, with it usually involving the same people, for more or less last 4 years.

 

[Deviton123]

I think the level of upset at things gets conflated. Disliking content does no have to mean full on frothing rage. I have a huge amount of disdain for Savin but that does no mean I walk around with a constant (metaphorical) hateboner for the guy. I find it very strange that any stated point of view expressed seems to get interpreted to the max. And to head off the inevitable "well you posted about it on a forum, you must care a great deal." argument, doing so takes very little time or effort so no.

Nah I don't hate him, I hate some of the shit he writes along with his pretentiousness. But I don't hate him to wish him bad fortune.

That's fair and true. But I would recommend considering that this particular forum of over 1.2k pages in which I could absolutely, without much exaggerating, say that roughly half of it is complaining about the same shit over and over, with it usually involving the same people, for more or less last 4 years.

To be honest from what it looks like, the reason you're not upset is because you don't have a personal attachment to the IP.

 

[thecatcameback]

That's fair and true. But I would recommend considering that this particular forum of over 1.2k pages in which I could absolutely, without much exaggerating, say that roughly half of it is complaining about the same shit over and over, with it usually involving the same people, for more or less last 4 years.

People are having a jolly good time taking the piss on them.

 

[Walk Cycle]

That's fair and true. But I would recommend considering that this particular forum of over 1.2k pages in which I could absolutely, without much exaggerating, say that roughly half of it is complaining about the same shit over and over, with it usually involving the same people, for more or less last 4 years.

I think the level of upset at things gets conflated. Disliking content does no have to mean full on frothing rage. I have a huge amount of disdain for Savin but that does no mean I walk around with a constant (metaphorical) hateboner for the guy. I find it very strange that any stated point of view expressed seems to get interpreted to the max. And to head off the inevitable "well you posted about it on a forum, you must care a great deal." argument, doing so takes very little time or effort so no.

Nah I don't hate him, I hate some of the shit he writes along with his pretentiousness. But I don't hate him to wish him bad fortune.

I like to shit on the bulk of content written by Tobs but that doesn't really mean I hate the guy, it just means I think his content sucks donkey balls. I don't even know who these guys are, the only personal details I know about the writers/devs is that BubbleLord definitely, absolutely has a job that pays magnitudes higher than what he gets on writing for CoC2 and that he apparently has an adequate penis. Such information was thrust upon me without my consent but there we go.

 

[Deviton123]

I like to shit on the bulk of content written by Tobs but that doesn't really mean I hate the guy, it just means I think his content sucks donkey balls. I don't even know who these guys are, the only personal details I know about the writers/devs is that BubbleLord definitely, absolutely has a job that pays magnitudes higher than what he gets on writing for CoC2 and that he apparently has an adequate penis. Such information was thrust upon me without my consent but there we go.

Hold up what was that last bit of info?

 

[Biostar]

I'm not sure the general consensus of that Berwyn/Mathia poly stuff is. Maybe it's the only relationship of that fashion that isn't openly reviled here?

I refuse to do that quest until they port over Berwyn's old scenes so I personally don't have an opinion on it. Might change if that pregnancy rumor turns out true though.

I stand by what I said. I think it's foolish to project so much onto a PC that you can get genuinely upset and have actual grievances at the goings on within a porn game of all things. That doesn't mean I don't advocate for people having FEELINGS, that's a fucking absurd statement, but there is such a thing as being TOO attached and needing to take a step back and practice a bit of temperance.

This is such wish-washy post. We're allowed to have feelings but only ones you approve of? Should we also tell people who love the content and get excited about it to stop doing that because they're too invested? Or is it only negative feelings that need to be policed? Stop trying to moderate how people should feel. You're not as invested? Good for you. Got nothing to do with anybody else.

 

[M0nte]

I refuse to do that quest until they port over Berwyn's old scenes so I personally don't have an opinion on it. Might change if that pregnancy rumor turns out true though.

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[Quintilus]

I stand by what I said. I think it's foolish to project so much onto a PC that you can get genuinely upset and have actual grievances at the goings on within a porn game of all things. That doesn't mean I don't advocate for people having FEELINGS, that's a fucking absurd statement, but there is such a thing as being TOO attached and needing to take a step back and practice a bit of temperance.

Lil bro, did you just forbid all kind of critique just because you felt like it?

 

[Biostar]

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Hmm, shit.

 

[Alterism]

People are having a jolly good time taking the piss on them.

Can't deny, most of the critique I levy is done because the process of expressing my opinion is rather fun.

That doesn't mean I don't advocate for people having FEELINGS, that's a fucking absurd statement, but there is such a thing as being TOO attached and needing to take a step back and practice a bit of temperance.

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I don't think most people here stretch that threshold. The emotion of 'distaste' for things you dislike color your response. In the same way that horror games scare the socks off of me and games that don't scare the socks off of me are rather poor horror games indeed, erotic games that are designed to get your rocks off, failing to do just that, are a poor erotic game indeed.

And the feeling of both aspects is mild disappointment. Well major disappointment for a horror game as that's a 60 (soon to be 70 standard) USD investment for a poor product.

Or put another way. If you don't like it, you don't like it. And that's a valid emotion to feel and doesn't suddenly invalidate opinions based on that response.
Err... Within reason, that is. I'm assuming that nobody here is as unhinged as the facebook guy was towards the laughing emoji guy but you never know.

 

[Whyhellothere]

Like I said, democracy happened...
Devs probably sent out a poll to delete, folks voted yes -> they just removed it...


BONUS:
Hell, if they added more characters in silly mode like this, I would be fine playing this piece of shit game.
And these guys are already a lot more fun and unique than the futa-fucking-naris in this game.
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The meds wore off, don't mind me.

This annoyed the mess out of me, all they had to do was stop making

mide Berwyn was made by a different writer called HugsAlright. Due to drama (devs say he would disappear and impossible to work with due to anger issues, Hugs says he had mental health issues and was unfairly booted), Berwyn was passed off to a different writer, B, to work on. B already had his own companion and it wasn't feasible for him to work on both, so as far as I know it was decided around then that they would eventually get rid of Berwyn as a companion but they decided not to tell the public that.

Fast forward to them announcing Berwyn getting new content via B. People who like Berwyn are excited. The content comes out and they announce that Berwyn is considered "feature complete" and will be removed from companion status and turned into an npc. When it launched, there was no way to access Berwyn's old scenes but devs have since said that the old ones will be patched back in.

The reasons for getting rid of Berywn were no dedicated writer for him (idk if B himself said it was too much or Savin didn't want B doing 2 companions), he had very little to no party/quest interactions (because they had decided before he was getting axed so writer's didn't bother?). B also decided to go gung-ho on all of different body configuration for Berwyn in his new content - because he knew he wouldn't have to deal with it once Berwyn got removed as a companion. So if there was ever any hope of someone else taking him up (which I doubt), now they have to deal with the various different parsers and ~more complicated code~ for Berwyn.

That's how it went down as far as I understand it. I have no idea what Raf-Raf is talking about with polls and such (they hid Berwyn getting axed from the public until the patch with his new content dropped), someone get him another cactus.

Damn, it's almost like all they had to do was just wrap up his content and leave him as is...
At least this is the only decision that has heavily irked me so far with this game, can't have everything go my way.
It's just fresh pain because I was late to do his quest and I've followed their games for years but don't really look at the polls, I assumed he was gonna be back in my party afterwards. Now I have to go out of my way to interact with my favorite character.

 

[Another Myth]

...Is it bad I'm hoping their lazyness will kick in and they'll just copy-paste her sex scenes?

Zhara (harpy wingleader)'s mayternity expansion is being written by Savin.

I'm just hoping the sex scenes are just slightly edited like Kas Winter City "Doggy her" scene

But overall im not too worried

 

[Based Department]

once.

if you turn on silly mode and go into the encounters section of the codex and look under Steel Tech Outpost, victor always has fucked anno more than you.
you fucked her 5000 times? vic did her 5020 times

 

[Kenshira]

BubbleLord definitely, absolutely has a job that pays magnitudes higher than what he gets on writing for CoC2 and that he apparently has an adequate penis.

 

[Tau_Iota]

BubbleLord definitely, absolutely has a job that pays magnitudes higher than what he gets on writing for CoC2 and that he apparently has an adequate penis. Such information was thrust upon me without my consent but there we go.

In seriousness though, does anyone know when Berwyn will get his old scenes back?

 

[Alterism]

In seriousness though, does anyone know when Berwyn will get his old scenes back?

presumably it's never going to happen. IIRC the 'solution' was to not do the expansion. But this is old knowledge. Who knows what's changed internally.

 

[KouUrakiZX-2]

Damn, it's almost like all they had to do was just wrap up his content and leave him as is...
At least this is the only decision that has heavily irked me so far with this game, can't have everything go my way.
It's just fresh pain because I was late to do his quest and I've followed their games for years but don't really look at the polls, I assumed he was gonna be back in my party afterwards. Now I have to go out of my way to interact with my favorite character.

I'd actually like to understand why people like Berwyn so much. Never really much cared for him, and he sorely lacked in companion interactions, and from what I've read before, his only saving grace was the art done for him. I do think people dying on the Berwyn hill is a bit much, but I'd like to understand the reasons outside of him being a femboy/one of the few male companions.

 

[Tau_Iota]

presumably it's never going to happen. IIRC the 'solution' was to not do the expansion. But this is old knowledge. Who knows what's changed internally.

Okay I was memeing before but

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I'd actually like to understand why people like Berwyn so much. Never really much cared for him, and he sorely lacked in companion interactions, and from what I've read before, his only saving grace was the art done for him. I do think people dying on the Berwyn hill is a bit much, but I'd like to understand the reasons outside of him being a femboy/one of the few male companions.

My honest answer is I don't know. Something about him just clicked, if that makes sense. Also big-dicked femboys are easily S-Tier wdym? Nikol is easily my favorite part of Khor'Minos.