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Who's the Best Saber-face and why is it Mordred( or Heroine Alter, I love the goofy goober)
That's a weird way to spell Jeanne Alter and Morgan Le Fay.

I never really bothered with the lore, but I know they takes souls and such. But I'm curious: How evil we talkin?
Eugenics, keeping technology stagnant at the bronze age level, grooming cults, manipulating politics and events to put their chosen people in favorable positions of power over others to keep themselves in power, Imposing the culture of their chosen people onto others, Supporting or turning a blind eye to institutions like slavery, Identity theft, and also they're monsters that exist solely to be a highly destructive and invasive species with no redeeming qualities and these one's just got smart enough to become grifters but are highkey still on their bullshit just in a way that is less direct and obvious.

But god help you if you point any of that out when savin or one of his simps are within earshot.
 
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I never really bothered with the lore, but I know they takes souls and such. But I'm curious: How evil we talkin?



BTW, I use my mobile phone to play coc2, so I don't see prompts like that, and that's how I got bamboozled.
I don't know myself but if people are talking about them being worse than demons then... just how bad are they?
 
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Eugenics, keeping technology stagnant at the bronze age level, grooming cults, manipulating politics and events to put their chosen people in favorable positions of power over others to keep themselves in power, Imposing the culture of their chosen people onto others, Supporting or turning a blind eye to institutions like slavery, Identity theft, and also they're monsters that exist solely to be a highly destructive and invasive species with no redeeming qualities and these one's just got smart enough to become grifters but are highkey still on their bullshit just in a way that is less direct and obvious.

But god help you if you point any of that out when savin or one of his simps are within earshot.
shit man that ....um.... wow wasn't expecting all that I thought it was just the eugenics and manipulating so

how bad are the demon then if that their competition
 

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There is only one true Saber.
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But yeah ur totally right.
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That panty line tho... they didn't have to do it. But they did it for the good of mankind.


Eugenics, keeping technology stagnant at the bronze age level, grooming cults, manipulating politics and events to put their chosen people in favorable positions of power over others to keep themselves in power, Imposing the culture of their chosen people onto others, Supporting or turning a blind eye to institutions like slavery, Identity theft, and also they're monsters that exist solely to be a highly destructive and invasive species with no redeeming qualities and these one's just got smart enough to become grifters but are highkey still on their bullshit just in a way that is less direct and obvious.
See that sounds interesting as fuck. I'm also someone who didn't really pay much attention to the lore. Sooooo is any of that actually properly shown, represented, and/or handled well? I should probably already know the answer, but eh. Gotta keep hope alive...
 
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See that sounds interesting as fuck. I'm also someone who didn't really pay much attention to the lore. Sooooo is any of that actually properly shown, represented, and/or handled well? I should probably already know the answer, but eh. Gotta keep hope alive...
Sorgy but it's either relegated to background lore, alluded to, or only gets glossed over and never actually addressed. The eugenics and tech regression is mostly goth snake lady. The rest is so far mostly cat twink, tobs's fox god, and Lumia who practically instilled a theocracy and either endorsed or didn't care about her followers doing a massive hate crime on non-believers. But it's all just there and never fully addressed or puts the bulk of or all the guilt on the followers if they even think to frame it as bad at all. They want to treat these JRPG villains as woobies despite going crazy with the world building in a way that set them up as subpar Final Fantasy villains we can't call out.

how bad are the demon then if that their competition
So demons are kinda inconsistent even in the first game. It's not clear if they're essentially a completely different person, if their minds are warped beyond recognition, or if they're fully cognizant of what they do. In practice demons are no different from the kitsune or orcs or any other porn logic operating group in the game's lore that does bad stuff except the demons may be sympathetic depending on interpretation and only make more by converting others. They do make imps though whether intentional or not so that might make them worse especially if the death of personality/identity is ever made clear. But savin made his cure the demons ending in CoC1 the canon ending I think so unlike the kitsune or orcs, demons may be able to stop being rape monsters some day.
 

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That panty line tho... they didn't have to do it. But they did it for the good of mankind.
You don't understand the only way stop the Fuyuki Grail War from happening again is by completing the ordeal call which involves making the servants maximum goonslop.
I hate type-moon
 

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On the topic of forum discussion, there was a post in the gripes thread by a user (Not going to name names) that got a good chuckle out of me.
Do we tell them that the dickgirls in this game are all largely fetish bait for Savin's fantasies? But yeah, sure, the people who say they don't want more of that stuff are all angry incels who screech at the sight of non-straight pairings.:rolleyes:
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I was going to use that image of the feline whorehouse but decided against it because I couldn't be arsed.

I guess I'm one of the few who actually likes Zo's original look :unsure:. Actually didn't think of Lucario until people pointed it out. But yea I can see it now. But at the same time, people lewd the fuck out Lucario so. I mean the braid things always looked weird. But looking at the new art.... nah I'm good with the old. Normally Moira's art sings to my loins. But this one ain't hitting for me.
Actually, count me in favor of that one. Her Lucario-esque bust was pretty cool, all things considered. Maybe not attractive but it does give off the image of an aura fighter and all.

Who's the Best Saber-face and why is it Mordred( or Heroine Alter, I love the goofy goober)
Heroine XX.

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An adorable idiot and probably the one that stands out the most besides maybe Lancer Artoria or Caster Artoria.

The only thing Morgan has going for her is her body/looks, not really a good saberface imo
Morgan's still in my shitlist from LB6.

I hate type-moon
I'll see how their Extra remake goes. Much as the gacha's iffy, they did invest the money from it into some cool shit from time to time.
 

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I posted this on coc2's forum, and people still defend it. Tell me if I'm slightly wrong. It was a review I posted here too, but it got deleted:


Point #1

Please focus on the story.

I've been playing this game since 2021, and haven't even seen an update for 'In her footsteps' in over 4-5 years, and i would think we'd be in the middle point right? Nope. Just stuck with pointless dlc that most of the time hit. I wanna ask if the writers can split work, but I kinda have a feeling they don't wanna do that. We only have act one of the main story, and I started playing since 2021. Let that sink.

Honestly in all respect Savin, I would like to play the main story, and not do side quests.

Point #2

More PC agency

We don't have a lot of player agency, and this is further backed up with The observer's writing, which many people complain about the kitsune walking all over players, and the players themselves being too submissive when they wanna be dominant. In the discord, I think I remember Savin (or someone) saying they were gonna make a system in the next game that'll change that, but I have my doubts. Mainly because CoC and TiTs remain unfinished. We really don't get to call out the kitsune, let alone the Seven. I feel like calling out the Seven for taking souls and doing little to nothing about Kassyra and her demonic invasion is honestly infuriating.

The one think I liked was punching the drunk kitsune onto his ass. Felt therapeutic, and like my own decision. Honestly, if we can get more of THAT in the quest/main story, I would love it. But I feel like I'm playing lewd deltarune most of the time because my choices apparently don't matter much.

To also clarify, I dont wanna fight the Seven, but call them out for consuming souls, and having a strained route. (Okay MAYBE just fight one of the seven.)

Point #3

Unfuckable NPCs

I understand completely that some npc shouldn't be fuckable, but goddammit i want to fuck/dominate Gweyr, Garth be damned. A quest where you intentionally fail by corrupting an NPC would be nice. They're could be so much content that you guys can do with a darker or neutral path. The main one i gotta complain about is Kavi. Like bro, I wanna mating press her, or let her ride me, not be coddled (even though i kinda like it a bit). I also feel like some people gatekeep that type of content from characters, but I believe it defeats the main thing of CoC2. Which is to corrupt or be a goody two shoes. I kinda think Savin and the rest of the cast lost the plot for a bit.

Point #4

Marefolk and the lack of "Chicks without horsedicks"

Honestly this got me a bit heated. Because now I gotta be frigging wary and save before going in for the secks with a hot horse chick. Nine times outta ten, they are a futa. I dislike futa content (And no, I'm not dropping the game because I dont like one fetish. That'd be like me dropping Splatoon 3 cuz salmon run is a bitch to play. While the rest of the game is peak), and although I understand most like it, it's the fact when you do enter into a sex selection with them, you cannot exit some of them. The only way to is exiting the game and restarting it. And honestly it wouldn't be a problem if I could see the fat fucking bulge in their pants by their bust. Sure some are obvious, but Edessari & Wredi are the most annoying part that made me say "That makes LITTLE to no sense. I didn't fuckin know!" Cause they had no visible bulge. Honestly, contrary to popular belief, I want a new horse girl without a dick dawg. Also the horse cock stuff needs to be tone down a wee bit. Maybe here and there on a occasion, but slow it down.

Point #5

Lack of actual corruption

Why corrupt NPCs when 90 percent characters and NPCs are bunch of degenerates in this game? I'll say that the developers team maybe doesn't care about making main plot relevant anymore.

Point #6

No/Lack thereof storyboard

I feel as if we did have a storyboard (or they work on the ones they made) for the game, a bunch of these issues would be hypothetically solved.
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I'm glad they improved to Zo bust. Really, I don't know what the hell B was thinking making her a 1 to 1 Lucario rip off. He did the same thing with Kailani, she's just Krystal from Star Fox. Like bro, I get using other characters as archetypes and foundations for your own, but would it kill you to not have them look exactly the same as the ones you're taking inspiration from?
B is a hack bro, and not a good one either.

Do we tell them that the dickgirls in this game are all largely fetish bait for Savin's fantasies? But yeah, sure, the people who say they don't want more of that stuff are all angry incels who screech at the sight of non-straight pairings.:rolleyes:
Bro, you gotta let useful idiots be useful idiots. They can't see their hypocrisy. They just follow the crowd or the thing they like.
 
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As someone who plays the game for technically first time I played in the past but didn't even left the first town and played TiTs instead I'm after the first area I guess Old Forest and...



I have to hard agree on that apart of Red Mommy trying to steal my soul why is she considered a threat this world with her corruption plans as you said the world is already corrupted she only brings forced transformation but that also was already here with alchemy and reagents and forced trans. of people was most likely present as well.

Even MC Pure 0 corruption starts as a virgin which is weird for that world and technically that MC have constant thoughts like after fights " I could take this big boy for a ride " How MC with mindset and world like that was a virgin up to this point I don't know.

Maybe there's more to it I will see but for now if Red Mommy would be a Angel that would want to purify this world would be much more fitting dunno.
I agree all NPC should be fuckable, they could just put moral implications choice there.
Since it's a smut game anyways, it should be up to us to want to lay the hay or not.
 

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I guess I'm one of the few who actually likes Zo's original look :unsure:. Actually didn't think of Lucario until people pointed it out. But yea I can see it now. But at the same time, people lewd the fuck out Lucario so. I mean the braid things always looked weird. But looking at the new art.... nah I'm good with the old. Normally Moira's art sings to my loins. But this one ain't hitting for me.
Yeah, they're Moira sluts. I'm disappointed in them for falling for the template body schtick.
I don't get why DCL stuff is being phased out tho.
 

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Who's the Best Saber-face and why is it Mordred( or Heroine Alter, I love the goofy goober)
Actually, count me in favor of that one. Her Lucario-esque bust was pretty cool, all things considered. Maybe not attractive but it does give off the image of an aura fighter and all.



Heroine XX.

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An adorable idiot and probably the one that stands out the most besides maybe Lancer Artoria or Caster Artoria.



Morgan's still in my shitlist from LB6.



I'll see how their Extra remake goes. Much as the gacha's iffy, they did invest the money from it into some cool shit from time to time.
Its Artoria, everything else is a soulless cash grab.
 

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Eugenics, keeping technology stagnant at the bronze age level, grooming cults, manipulating politics and events to put their chosen people in favorable positions of power over others to keep themselves in power, Imposing the culture of their chosen people onto others, Supporting or turning a blind eye to institutions like slavery, Identity theft, and also they're monsters that exist solely to be a highly destructive and invasive species with no redeeming qualities and these one's just got smart enough to become grifters but are highkey still on their bullshit just in a way that is less direct and obvious.

But god help you if you point any of that out when savin or one of his simps are within earshot.
It's so fucking weird to me honestly, sometimes I wonder if they're just taking the piss or if they honestly feel that way. That all the shit that they have is just completely cool and normal, like i'm genuinely perturbed by shit. Like, do they think its ok or something or if its the super autistic way of thinking everything's cool because it my OC.
 

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Yeah, they're Moira sluts. I'm disappointed in them for falling for the template body schtick.
I don't get why DCL stuff is being phased out tho.
Wait wait wait, hold the phone. What do you mean "phased out"? Like they taking it out the game??? Or it's like no longer the default? Or?
 
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Okay, back on the topic of Zo, I do see why her losing her old look could take away some of personality. I'm just saying that personally, she was never attractive to me. Though I always just wrote her off as not for me. I'll take Moira's stock template bodies than shit like Adjatha's balloon animals.

I'm pretty open to most body types really, as long as they're feminine. I prefer chubby, mature thick girls, but I also like petite womanlets, old GILFs/hags, and musclebound amazons too, oversexed bimbo bodies, really just about every kind of woman tbh. I prefer body hair like full bush, but I'm not really picky in that regard.

It's the same with futa/dickgirls, but I'll always always prefer futasub over futadom. Though it could be my distaste for more extreme forms of domination that futadom tends to have than bodytype. I like small penises on futas but it is somewhat nice to have a Futa with a big dick taking it from behind and letting it flop around uselessly.

When it comes to guys, Tetsuya is probably my limit at how masculine I'm willing to go. Bishounen pretty boys who can crossdress convincingly. Baras and just regular masculine men just don't do anything for me. It's like when people on Reddit talk about celebrity men being hot and how they'd make an exception for them. I'm like... Yeah, Henry Cavill is conventionally handsome I guess? I don't feel a single shred of desire when I look at him at all...

Then there's odd shit like xenophilia stuff but that's way out of the scope here. I guess my point is, I am a bit surprised myself of how I wasn't attracted at all to characters like old Zo and Agni.
 
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It's so fucking weird to me honestly, sometimes I wonder if they're just taking the piss or if they honestly feel that way. That all the shit that they have is just completely cool and normal, like i'm genuinely perturbed by shit. Like, do they think its ok or something or if its the super autistic way of thinking everything's cool because it my OC.
Given the whole savin and myrellion thing in TITS and tobs unironically cooming at the thought of imperial Japan I'm gonna assume there's a level of honesty in there mixed with gooner brain masochism. But I think they also truly believe they've made high art and deep lore. Tobs and savin are the ones who made the worst of it. That's just speculation though and I doubt they'll ever admit their real thoughts or have the self awareness to consider why they do these things. Savin and tobs truly are lolcows that keep the discussion alive.

I hope the community writers are getting something out all this at least. Silver linings and all that.

Its Artoria, everything else is a soulless cash grab.
Jalter may be a cash grab and Nero may be cringe and Le Fay may have done some messed up stuff but I will always support them. The real answer is Castoria anyway since she has the magic of bomb and can't be contained.

I was going to use that image of the feline whorehouse but decided against it because I couldn't be arsed.
Now that you said I'm curious what you're talking about.
 

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I'm not going to speak for Sacred_Lamb, but I think they're now pushing Moira as the default artist. First there was Cait, then Brint, followed by Lyric, Kiyoko, and now Zo. Moira's slowly chipping away to make her own versions.
I mean it's not that I don't see why. The old DCL art is showing its age. The old Brint bust is an actual eyesore. Kiyoko's DCL bust did absolutely nothing for me to a degree that I just replaced her busts with recolored Miko. IDK what anyone says but stage 3 Moira Cait is top tier even if the character in question is a cum-stained napkin
 
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