hameleona

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as for the foto,the stalker himself did say he didn't take it...replay the scene in the college library again if you want to see him do it,but i understand if you don't want to..creepy dude man...stalker in the making right there(pretty much is there already)
More like pathetic loser. If he was an actual threat I would probably pay a lot more attention to that scene and I would have remembered that :D

i think cosy does represent that cut throat politics and everything along with it,mainly how people in power do a lot to keep it and/or getting more.
Eh, There is somewhere in this thread a "what would hameleona do if he was in Gloria's shoes", the politics in the game are a bit of a kiddie league. That's not a criticism, btw, Cosy writes a cosy, wholesome game and that contains the whole power-politics a lot. Add to that, I imagine a lot of people aren't as invested in that side of the story as I am and I'm not expecting any Red Weddings or even "I warned you not to trust me" moments.
 

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More like pathetic loser. If he was an actual threat I would probably pay a lot more attention to that scene and I would have remembered that :D



Eh, There is somewhere in this thread a "what would hameleona do if he was in Gloria's shoes", the politics in the game are a bit of a kiddie league. That's not a criticism, btw, Cosy writes a cosy, wholesome game and that contains the whole power-politics a lot. Add to that, I imagine a lot of people aren't as invested in that side of the story as I am and I'm not expecting any Red Weddings or even "I warned you not to trust me" moments.
Having another betrayal would be overdoing it. We had one, early in the game, for another to happen now or in the future would be going back to the same well one too many times, eventually poisoning it.

Catherine I think is going to go with the MC to the meeting with Hamilton on Wednesday, and I think that'll be the night she becomes a trusted girl by the MC

Alison having a negative "I told you so" moment would make no sense either, since she's hitching herself and Hannah to his team. She even said it herself in one of their office visits and she further said in this last update that she's not planning against him.

We have a very long road to get to where we have to go, and I expect some trouble along the way (Brian, Gloria, Vicky's Dad, Lucy's Mom) but looking at the people the MC has around him and how devoted he is to the girls and them to him, I'm pretty sure they can manage it. We can already see the tension ease between Hannah and Catherine, since now either one can't be with him without the other knowing and giving permission.

I'm personally expecting though at some point the cafe to be ransacked somehow. I've had this thought for a long time. Brian and his thug maybe? Just a thought, but I've had it for many months.
 

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Every update with Hannah I start liking her more and more, her mood swings are interesting, like she bottles up her emotions when she's with other people (probably especially her father), and then it boils over into anger, and then shes alone with the MC, who doesn't get angry back, and she deflates. I hope she and Catherine can get along at some point, the "either its both of you, or neither" thing hopefully will lead to that.
I'm betting on Hannah's mood swings are just her cracking under the pressure. Like how many ways is she pulled to by now? 4? 5? And the worst thing in her life was forced upon her by the two people she seems to care for the most - her dad and her sister. She is doing her damned best to be the perfect British Victorian noble lady - all elegant, calm and composed, but she is a bundle of nerves and there is no way there isn't fear deep down. For fucks sake, she has to marry Brain, that alone would send half the cast in to the loony bin :D
So, when the MC starts pushing her in yet another direction (besides her dad, her sister, her fiance and god knows who else, probably her mom too), she snaps at him. He is the only one she can snap at in a way, if you follow those social standards - can't snap at her dad, can't snap at her sister, can't snap at Brain, wouldn't snap at "commoners" cause that's not how her family does things. The MC is a peer and someone who just causes chaos around him, is anything but prim and proper and tbh, didn't really play it right with her from the start. If you think about it his casual dismissal of her problem was esentially "well, you are just dumb" and, imo, he was 100% in the wrong there. And I think he kinda realized it with time.
 

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Having another betrayal would be overdoing it. We had one, early in the game, for another to happen now or in the future would be going back to the same well one too many times, eventually poisoning it.
Oh, yeah, it's not that kind of story. I didn't really realize I just gave two betrayals as example :D
My point was, I don't expect massive drama or tragedy.

Catherine I think is going to go with the MC to the meeting with Hamilton on Wednesday, and I think that'll be the night she becomes a trusted girl by the MC
She should be there and I was genuenly surprised it wasnt mentioned in this update. After all, she has demonstrated that at the very least she would be neutral in his struggles with Hamilton and after she managed him so aptly during the contest I expected him to think of it himself. I guess Lucy would have to open his eyes again. Or he would do the stupid thing and the Hamiltons would invite her and as you say - this is probably where their alliance would form.

Alison having a negative "I told you so" moment would make no sense either, since she's hitching herself and Hannah to his team. She even said it herself in one of their office visits and she further said in this last update that she's not planning against him.
Well, it was almost spelled that there will be something to dicredit her (and I expect it to be jucy, but "depends on how you look at it" thing). And I'll be real, Alison, unless she has been a remarkable liar all along plain has no other options then the MC. She is easy to trust, because it's either him, or nothing. Hannah is in the same boat, but worse (she would actually HAVE to marry Brain... scary option, ngl). While I don't want to assume bad things... Cosy has done a remarkable job to essentially throw only girls that have no other option at the MC - most of them are easy to trust even for cynical bastards like me :D.

We have a very long road to get to where we have to go, and I expect some trouble along the way (Brian, Gloria, Vicky's Dad, Lucy's Mom) but looking at the people the MC has around him and how devoted he is to the girls and them to him, I'm pretty sure they can manage it. We can already see the tension ease between Hannah and Catherine, since now either one can't be with him without the other knowing and giving permission.
We also have a time-limit now. Couple of months or so (tho, with the pace the game has been going on that's almost eternity :D). So either the MC ups his game or a lot of plans are gonna get fucked. Overall, while a bit on the rushed side, this update moved that part of the story forward by a lot.

I'm personally expecting though at some point the cafe to be ransacked somehow. I've had this thought for a long time. Brian and his thug maybe? Just a thought, but I've had it for many months.
It's been on my mind a lot, too, but I kinda doubt it. Strictly speaking, the cafe doesn't matter - loosing it won't make him lose his vote and only an idiot would turn him in to another Reggie, cementing Hamiltons rule for... a while. And honestly, it's Cosy, we ain't choosing who to drag out of the burning cafe - Lucy or Vicki :D
Like, it can work, but it must also kill the MC to work and if such stuff was allowed, there wouldn't be Founding Families left. So, idk, maybe some broken glass, but I seriously dobut anything worse would happen.
 

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I never said it was femdom, or anything of the sort. But pretty much every scene in the game is focused on maledom in one way or another, so it wouldn't make sense to add a bunch of vanilla cunnilingus scenes that don't fit that theme - same goes for every other sex act in the game. Like I said, I have a few good ideas for it and I'm happily putting them in.
Hard disagree, I'm afraid. It just comes across as selfish, and, to be honest, even MORE vanilla without the lack of variety. Hell, it could even have been added as an option on whether or not you wanted to actually do it

Maledom is fine, but this is both a stretch and, honestly, kinda bland
 

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I think we still just don't have enough info. I'm getting more and more certain with time, that most major players knew that the MC was coming to town and were laying the ground for their plans. There is no way they weren't keeping an eye on what's going on with the Fletcher family. We don't really know what's going behind the scenes - that "bureaucratic" war going on might have been going on for years. MC didn't have to get any licenses, permissions, etc, meaning he probably inherited them. As someone who has had to deal with food authorities... yeah, somebody was pulling strings :D
I can just hope, the MC will start moving his ass and start building his own power-base at some friggin point, because for now he is a walking target depending on his "allies" to protect him.
Also, didn't the stalker take that photo?

No the stalker dude/college guy specifically says he doesn't have social media and confirms that it wasn't him that took the photo.
 

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Hard disagree, I'm afraid. It just comes across as selfish, and, to be honest, even MORE vanilla without the lack of variety. Hell, it could even have been added as an option on whether or not you wanted to actually do it

Maledom is fine, but this is both a stretch and, honestly, kinda bland
Nothing wrong with going down hard or orgasm denial. Cunnilingus can be dominant if you do it right. All the blowjobs etc do come across as extremely selfish and a bit boring. Sometimes almost feels like MC doesn't actually like women very much. Loving the story and characters though.
 
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IMO I think once Annabelle gets into the habit of being "friends" with the cafe gang her klutziness is going to subside a bit as I think she's just super shy and this will lead her into getting the next waitress position.

I've also thought Annabelle will probably end up being the next waitress and her arc might include "punishments" for breaking dishes like the rest of the girls.
 

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Nothing wrong with going down hard or orgasm denial. Cunnilingus can be dominant if you do it right. All the blowjobs etc do come across as extremely selfish and a bit boring. Sometimes almost feels like MC doesn't actually like women very much. Loving the story and characters though.
Using a cunnilingus to get the woman really horny before you fuck her is indeed a dominant act imo, even better in combination with cuffs and when you just ovherwhelm her with pleasure.

No guy who ever experienced this kind of spectacle would ever call it submissive (from the guy) or something like that
 
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I completely agree with you. And I really liked this sweet side of Catherine with her sisters, she was really adorable. We also see it when she is alone with the MC.

She is making progress and will continue to progress further

It’s not that she isn’t completely Team’s Fletcher yet that bothers me but in the current state of the VN, I cannot say that she's my favorite.

I like Catherine's arc and progress as well. She was worth disliking in the early days and has grown in her humanity since. 18+ years of Royal conditioning doesn't disappear overnight There are a few times where she even says she is sorry to the MC when they are alone. There are also unresolved things with the Gilberts so hers and Hannah's friendship still needs time to grow.
 

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Using a cunnilingus to get the woman really horny is before you fuck her is indeed a dominant act imo, even better in combination with cuffs and when you just ovherwhelm her with pleasure.

Not guy who ever experienced this kind of spectacle would ever call it submissive (from the guy) or something like that
Just using it as a to go reward for a good girl. If she earned it, she gets it.
 

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Using a cunnilingus to get the woman really horny is before you fuck her is indeed a dominant act imo, even better in combination with cuffs and when you just ovherwhelm her with pleasure.

Not guy who ever experienced this kind of spectacle would ever call it submissive (from the guy) or something like that
Well, there was that one violently misogynistic bloke in this very thread who argued that "going down on a woman is a waste of time" and that "making sure a woman feels pleasure during sex is unnecessary..." Yeah, sorry, but I am not even kidding with this shit. It was disgusting. :sick:

...And from my personal perspective, I'll say that properly executed cunnilingus is a reward in and of itself. Giving and taking is part of any (healthy) sexual relationship, but going down on a girl, having her grabbing at your hair, pushing you against herself with both her hands and legs... I mean, come freaking on. What straight or bi guy would not enjoy that?! :BootyTime:

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With Annabelle starting to get some time with our main cast I'm really hoping Cosy takes this as an opportunity to do something a bit different with her compared to the other girls.

What I am genuinely hoping for is that Annabelle will not like pain. Now I know spanking is a big component of this story and I am not saying she can't have her turn being bent over the MCs lap because I know she will. But I think it makes sense for her character being as clumsy as she has been shown to be to have some bad memories with pain and what I am hoping is that after it happens she asks him not to do it as a punishment for her again and most importantly for the MC to agree and follow though.

This would accomplish a few things story wise first it shows that the MC will not push unwanted boundaries with the girls. Second it gives Annabelle something unique in their interactions and could lead to something fun between them, maybe he ties her up instead or makes her do mild exhibitionist punishments and while I do enjoy his go to punishment for the girls variety is the spice of life and having one of them that he can't default spank would be nice to have.
 

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With Annabelle starting to get some time with our main cast I'm really hoping Cosy takes this as an opportunity to do something a bit different with her compared to the other girls.

What I am genuinely hoping for is that Annabelle will not like pain. Now I know spanking is a big component of this story and I am not saying she can't have her turn being bent over the MCs lap because I know she will. But I think it makes sense for her character being as clumsy as she has been shown to be to have some bad memories with pain and what I am hoping is that after it happens she asks him not to do it as a punishment for her again and most importantly for the MC to agree and follow though.

This would accomplish a few things story wise first it shows that the MC will not push unwanted boundaries with the girls. Second it gives Annabelle something unique in their interactions and could lead to something fun between them, maybe he ties her up instead or makes her do mild exhibitionist punishments and while I do enjoy his go to punishment for the girls variety is the spice of life and having one of them that he can't default spank would be nice to have.
Yeah, finding a dozen or so girls who just happen to be kinky masochists at heart who don't seem put off by a one-sided open relationship definitely stretches suspension of disbelief. I'd prefer to see a couple other routes for MC to express that dominance for different girls, maybe a few outright state that they prefer other things. Plenty of ways to play with a sub, much as I do love spanking Vicky!
 

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the politics in the game are a bit of a kiddie league. That's not a criticism, btw, Cosy writes a cosy, wholesome game and that contains the whole power-politics a lot. Add to that, I imagine a lot of people aren't as invested in that side of the story as I am and I'm not expecting any Red Weddings or even "I warned you not to trust me" moments.
Yeah, the FF subplot is fun and a nice buffer to keep the cafe stuff from getting old quick, but it's not exactly masterful political intrigue. That kind of stuff really wouldn't fit the tone of the game, even if I as a fan of that stuff would really love to dig deeper into it. Like, the voting system doesn't make a whole lot of sense, the spying seems much less nefarious and invasive, and there's been almost no mentions or demonstrations of hard power anywhere so far. This isn't a game about politics, it's a game about a guy opening a cafe who just so happens to be the lost heir to a powerful family with responsibilities that occupy his time only enough to break up the plot and unearned power and respect that solve annoying inconveniences so we can enjoy the fun stuff more. That's all there is to it.
 
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Running a cafe can be fun for a while, but it gets boring eventually.
Running the cafe your dead grandfather owned—a man who was part of a city council full of powerful, influential, and manipulative people? Have you ever tried getting cozy with your life on the line???
 
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Some things I liked. Some things I thought were missed opportunities.

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That's just one man's opinion. Looking forward to v14.
I would wager that the Sarah "full court press" is over now, at least for a while. Lucy and Vicky have double double dates coming up, Akatsuki just had a ton of screen time with Sarah, as did Catherine. I don't like when Lucy & Vicky take the back burner for a few updates, and they basically have in favor of Sarah, the Kitten, and Catherine.

Thankfully, the next update puts the focus on the first two girls and the FF Council, which I am incredibly curious about. Who's with me in thinking Lucy's Mom and/or Vicky's dad will show up? Could Lucy's abuse become public if her mother pushes her or the MC too hard?
 
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