Rosen King

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How has everyone been enjoying the weekend? Have you gotten the chance to play through the new update yet?
Honestly, I haven't even played through all the content in the previous updates yet, so I apologize ahead of time if I mention anything that's already been covered.

I want to ask now, is there something you would like to see added? Is there any part you would like to see expanded on?
I'm always eager to see more of the vampire route, although I understand it isn't the main focus of the game. While they're certainly not a dime a dozen, I find that well-made "Game Over Games" aren't particularly rare, but it's hard to find a good player-dominant mind control/transformation game that isn't some real porn HTML or RAGS game, or a badly-written Ren'py game with canned 3D models. Even moreso to specifically find one that's an RPG "Game Over Game" in reverse, which you'd think would be a natural fit.

At any rate, since you asked, I'd like to reiterate my previous suggestion to add monster girls to the vampire route that you can battle and enslave by turning them into vampire hybrids. Possibly with a menagerie where you keep at least one of each of your conquests, as opposed to just leaving them to wander the area like the vampire hunters. This will add some variety to a route that could otherwise be potentially monotonous (there's only so much fun to be had with different types of humans as the generic enemies), while still keeping consistent with the "vampires, vampires, and more vampires" theme of the game. To say nothing of the potential for chocolate-and-peanut-butter monster variants that you never see in any other games, and/or taking normally sweet and innocent ones and turning them sexy and predatory. (I'm just saying. Vampire Mermaid. Think about it.)
 
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in 3.0 I think there a bug side with the vampire quest like after talking to him about the package and going back to dorian he still says deliver the package to the dealer.
 

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in 3.0 I think there a bug side with the vampire quest like after talking to him about the package and going back to dorian he still says deliver the package to the dealer.
Could you explain better? Im not sure what you mean. Are you saying that there is a typo in the dialogue? Or is there a bug with the questline?
 

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I second what Rosen and I think a few others suggested: adding some vampire version of monster girls would be cool. I do want to the MC become more dominate on the vampire route. It would be cool to build up your strength and overthrow your master and form your own sexy harem vampire girls. There are very few, if any of these kind of games where I feel like my character actual does something she wants to do. For example, the characters has a submissive kink and fantasizes about become a vampire. Cool. However, fulfilling that results in a game over, and if I go down the vampire route, she only becomes a vampire by someone else's actions, not her own.

I do apologize if I'm not being very clear. I am enjoying it so far and the art is nice and unique. Any issues I have are fairly minor and I don't want you to feel like you have to change your plans just to make me happy. I do sometimes like not getting what I want as it means there's more of a surprise.
 
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cant open the wlakthorugh because it is a docx datai is there another
 
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I've encountered a bug in the Blood Temple contract. After following Astoria through the maze to Alaexa, I can't interact with either of them. Their models aren't solid(I'm able to walk through both of them). Help?
 

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I've encountered a bug in the Blood Temple contract. After following Astoria through the maze to Alaexa, I can't interact with either of them. Their models aren't solid(I'm able to walk through both of them). Help?
Ill look into it. When you walked into the room, the event didnt play automatically?
 

Rosen King

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It would be cool to build up your strength and overthrow your master
That's not necessary. He respects her and only controls her because she wants it, so rebelling against him would just be abandoning her character. It would only be something she has to do if he's somehow driven to act more evil than she's willing to accept. As long as her only Master is someone she trusts, she can explore her submissive side while still being free and exerting her own dominance over everyone else. She's already on her way to creating a harem of vampire girls, and I'm sure her Master supports her in that pursuit, so it's all good.

(On the other hand, I would be down for her discovering a way to dominate the other "brides", as long as they either consent to it or make it necessary by becoming her enemy. Betraying her "sisters" for no reason would also be out of character.)

That being said, I wasn't too thrilled when Dealer used his cheat codes and somehow managed to take control over her and make her a "victim" even in this route. And in a standard story scene, no less, rather than a game over. Dorian took control of her because she begged for it. Dealer did it because she tried to express her dominant side. I feel like that kind of thing shouldn't be too common in the vampire route, at least outside of a game over. Hell, I think it's the only scene where she's victimized like that outside of a game over (at least sexually), which makes it feel even more out of place in that route.
 
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Rosen King

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How much sex is there if you don't lose?
I haven't played the most recent update or finished some of the side quests, but I'm pretty sure in the main route so far there's no sex outside of the game overs. If I'm not mistaken, it's even specifically mentioned that the protagonist is still a virgin at the start of the vampire route. That's pretty much the only consensual sex scene I know of (not counting a few game overs that are "consensual"), and even that technically requires you to lose an optional boss fight.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though.
 

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Is the contract suggestion thing available to non-Patrons, or is it just something copy/pasted from the Patreon and not modified to account for the general public? Is so, what's the criteria/format/rules for contract suggestions? Just whatever general half-formed idea people feel like sharing, or something specific like "suggest a target, a location, and a premise for hunting them"? Not that I really have any particular ideas for contracts at the moment myself, I'm just curious as to how one might "submit an entry entree".

On an unrelated note, if you're interested in getting a bit more exposure, I just noticed that your game doesn't have a thread and isn't even really mentioned anywhere on the mind control games subforum of the . Since there's pretty much no sexual content in this game that doesn't qualify as some form of mind control (even the consensual sex with Dorian is still about Mila becoming bound to his will), I think it would be very well received there. Considering that even this thread was missing the mind control tag when I found it, I think the game has been flying under the radar of one of its most fitting audiences.

With the next big update coming out (for non-Patrons) in four days, that'd probably be a perfect time to introduce the game there. I'd offer to make the thread myself, but I'm mostly just a lurker there and don't know if I could maintain the thread properly, or even really know what all the rules for it are when posting someone else's game. I could still do that if you don't want to bother with it but still want it posted there, or you can just do it yourself. Or not have it posted there at all, if you prefer that for whatever reason.

Edit: Oh yeah, one more thing to add to the general ideas/suggestions pile. I don't know if this has come up yet in the parts of the game I haven't played and/or haven't been released for free yet, but I'd be interested to see a half-breed Dhampir play a role in the game. It's hardly an original concept, and I was just thinking that perhaps we've already encountered one and don't know it yet (Faahlda? Ashe?), but there are some interesting ways they could play into this game's themes. What happens when a Dhampir bites a human? In this game, it would almost certainly still spread vampirism to the victim, but perhaps with some unique attributes. A Dhampir is generally free-willed and often fights against vampires, but how would Mila and other members of Notorna interact with them, and in what ways could this result in a "bad ending" (or at least a nonstandard game over) for Mila? Could she decide that becoming an undead slave to a vampire-hunting Dhampir would be an acceptable moral compromise between her vampire fantasies and her desire to fight for humanity? And if it's a character who has a role in the main story, what sorts of family drama could we run into? Perhaps Faahlda is a half-vampire who joined Noctorna in order to work out her daddy issues, or maybe Dorian's illegitimate child will be Mila's rival (and eventually lover) in the Vampire Route. Hmm... Now that I'm thinking along these lines, maybe I'll even offer a more specific suggestion for a contract involving one, once my initial question is answered and assuming that there won't be one appearing in the main story. (Not a good idea to make a side quest about a concept before it's introduced in the main quest.)
 
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Is the contract suggestion thing available to non-Patrons, or is it just something copy/pasted from the Patreon and not modified to account for the general public? Is so, what's the criteria/format/rules for contract suggestions? Just whatever general half-formed idea people feel like sharing, or something specific like "suggest a target, a location, and a premise for hunting them"? Not that I really have any particular ideas for contracts at the moment myself, I'm just curious as to how one might "submit an entry entree".

On an unrelated note, if you're interested in getting a bit more exposure, I just noticed that your game doesn't have a thread and isn't even really mentioned anywhere on the mind control games subforum of the . Since there's pretty much no sexual content in this game that doesn't qualify as some form of mind control (even the consensual sex with Dorian is still about Mila becoming bound to his will), I think it would be very well received there. Considering that even this thread was missing the mind control tag when I found it, I think the game has been flying under the radar of one of its most fitting audiences.

With the next big update coming out (for non-Patrons) in four days, that'd probably be a perfect time to introduce the game there. I'd offer to make the thread myself, but I'm mostly just a lurker there and don't know if I could maintain the thread properly, or even really know what all the rules for it are when posting someone else's game. I could still do that if you don't want to bother with it but still want it posted there, or you can just do it yourself. Or not have it posted there at all, if you prefer that for whatever reason.

Edit: Oh yeah, one more thing to add to the general ideas/suggestions pile. I don't know if this has come up yet in the parts of the game I haven't played and/or haven't been released for free yet, but I'd be interested to see a half-breed Dhampir play a role in the game. It's hardly an original concept, and I was just thinking that perhaps we've already encountered one and don't know it yet (Faahlda? Ashe?), but there are some interesting ways they could play into this game's themes. What happens when a Dhampir bites a human? In this game, it would almost certainly still spread vampirism to the victim, but perhaps with some unique attributes. A Dhampir is generally free-willed and often fights against vampires, but how would Mila and other members of Notorna interact with them, and in what ways could this result in a "bad ending" (or at least a nonstandard game over) for Mila? Could she decide that becoming an undead slave to a vampire-hunting Dhampir would be an acceptable moral compromise between her vampire fantasies and her desire to fight for humanity? And if it's a character who has a role in the main story, what sorts of family drama could we run into? Perhaps Faahlda is a half-vampire who joined Noctorna in order to work out her daddy issues, or maybe Dorian's illegitimate child will be Mila's rival (and eventually lover) in the Vampire Route. Hmm... Now that I'm thinking along these lines, maybe I'll even offer a more specific suggestion for a contract involving one, once my initial question is answered and assuming that there won't be one appearing in the main story. (Not a good idea to make a side quest about a concept before it's introduced in the main quest.)
Anyone is able to submit an idea, not just my patrons! I believe Ive posted the rules on this thread before or at least a link to where you can read them. It basically boils down to writing an original premise that does not include any of the main story’s cast
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. There are a few more rules than that about what kind of ideas will NOT be accepted, so if anyone is interested, I suggest that they wait until I have officially opened entrees and post the most updated rules.

I made a forum a while back on Hypnopics as well as tfgamessite. I still post links to updates on tfgames (even though its kinda dead there, for me anyway), but hypnopics didnt seem to get any views whatsoever at the time. If you would like to create a new thread on the game there and link it to me, I would be more than happy to post updates there, assuming the site gets any attention.
 

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I made a forum a while back on Hypnopics as well as tfgamessite.
Really? That's strange. I specifically did a search, and... Ah, I see. Apparently it was moved to the inactive games forum. I guess it gets moved there automatically if the creator doesn't post in a certain period of time. When the new update gets released to the public, I'll probably post a link there and ask if it can be moved back to the active games section.

I wonder if maybe the reason it got overlooked is because you tagged it as a "demo" (which, by that site's standards, means that it's just a sample of a paid game - you want "[Free][Donate]"). It does seem to have an oddly small number of views, especially compared to some real garbage on there...
 
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Really? That's strange. I specifically did a search, and... Ah, I see. Apparently it was moved to the inactive games forum. I guess it gets moved there automatically if the creator doesn't post in a certain period of time. When the new update gets released to the public, I'll probably post a link there and ask if it can be moved back to the active games section.

I wonder if maybe the reason it got overlooked is because you tagged it as a "demo" (which, by that site's standards, means that it's just a sample of a paid game - you want "[Free][Donate]"). It does seem to have an oddly small number of views, especially compared to some real garbage on there...
Ill give it another shot, I dont think Ive posted there since the initial release. At the time, the game was little more than a demo, but i guess I can rebrand it as a work in progress or something? It has plenty of content by this point.
Not sure what else I can do to help it stand out there.
 

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I dont think Ive posted there since the initial release.
It seems you did post the update that added Chapter 2 and the Vampire Route, although there wasn't much response to that.

At the time, the game was little more than a demo, but i guess I can rebrand it as a work in progress or something?
I mean, Chapter 1 alone has a buttload more content than some of the stuff there. The thing is, the demo tag is supposed to be used for games where a paid full version is available, and only the demo is available for free. There's an optional "Alpha" and "Beta" tag, but most WIP games are tagged simply as [Free][Donate] or [Free][Perks] (the latter being for games that have Patreon-only content and stuff like that). A [Complete] tag can be added when a game's done, but you don't see many of those around.

Somehow I don't think that's the real reason it got overlooked, though. Honestly, I don't really get it myself. At least TFGames can be explained by the fact that that site has become almost entirely focused on gender bender games, and people who came for other types of transformations probably gave up on the site. But this game feels overlooked as a whole considering its overall quality... Originally I wrote it off as being because it focused almost entirely on a single fetish, but if even a site dedicated to an overlapping fetish ignored it, I'm stumped.
 
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