VN Ren'Py Culture Shock [Ch. 3 v0.1] [King of lust]

[RoadWulf]

I think this was the last update before the new writer is able to really start showing their own. Honestly, this update was much better than the previous one where it seemed like almost nothing happened.

At least there was finally sex on the Alpha route this time.
However the Mother and Sister still feel like they're moving at a snail's pace.

 

[BaasB]

more then a year and still no sex with mom or sis, blue ball game dev

 

[hakarlman]

What do you guys think about developers trying to cater to both Alpha/Harem crowd, and NTR crowd? Should they try to cater to both or choose one or the other?

 

[k3nk]

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/day5.rpy", line 61, in script
jump day5wakeup
ScriptError: could not find label 'day5wakeupFilter'.

 

[Mikey Mike]

What do you guys think about developers trying to cater to both Alpha/Harem crowd, and NTR crowd? Should they try to cater to both or choose one or the other?

I guess the response is whether you like cuckold sloppy seconds or not. The successful devs obviously cater to what creates the highest number of patrons, and IMHO is incest, big tits, MILFs, barely legal MC, non-NTR, etc...

 

[Deleted member 1417021]

What do you guys think about developers trying to cater to both Alpha/Harem crowd, and NTR crowd? Should they try to cater to both or choose one or the other?

I personally don't really like NTR but the dev of Where it all began does exactly this.

If a dev can pull this off, then he should go for it.
But a lot of people ignore games with "NTR" in the tags.

If someone just wants to make some bucks, he should probably go for a no-ntr game.

 

[evildead]

cant get past day 5
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/day5.rpy", line 61, in script
jump day5wakeup
ScriptError: could not find label 'day5wakeupFilter'.
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/day5.rpy", line 61, in script
jump day5wakeup

 

[Avaron1974]

There was barely anything in this update. A total letdown

Sex with 2 women and progress with others.

 

[King of Lust]

cant get past day 5
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/day5.rpy", line 61, in script
jump day5wakeup
ScriptError: could not find label 'day5wakeupFilter'.
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/day5.rpy", line 61, in script
jump day5wakeup

Please wait for the bugfix

 

[muttdoggy]

Mikey Mike I'll tell you this. King of Lust has a vision for the game and wants to get it done. With his current team, he's got a damn good chance of getting the game he wanted to make. This is his baby, his game, his voice. He shouldn't change it for anyone. Not for any soul. He should stick to his vision and remain true. He'll profit. And let me tell you, 7 of the top 25 Adult games on Patreon according to graphtreon feature NTR content with swinging, cuckoldry, cheating and NTR. So your claim is completely false.

I may sound like a broken record..
- There are THOUSANDS of Developers and many are on here.
- Hundreds of them contain ntr and its related fetishes.
We can agree the above 2 are facts.

Now, how many have changed course because of NTR concerns/crybabies?
3 that I know of. Out of HUNDREDS. Many devs have made it optional or added a warning.
But the ones who changed to kill their original vision?? They aren't being developed anymore. They're dead. Gone, abandoned, dust.

Those games that don't change course survive. Those that do die. So if you are crying about NTR and begging the dev to remove it completely, you are flirting with killing the game for good. Why may or may not be your goal.

The takeaway? Devs should listen to their heart, not "internet warriors". With that said, from the beginning, I've had a feeling of confidence in King of Lust pulling this off and getting a few dollars in his pocket.

 

[Theboss3213]

What do you guys think about developers trying to cater to both Alpha/Harem crowd, and NTR crowd? Should they try to cater to both or choose one or the other?

Should make a thread and ask this question, would make for some good argument's. But i'll give my take on it.

A dev that has to cater to both, will alway's have a hard time pleasing both side's. Which in turn give's pressure to the dev which also lower's the enthusiasm of making another update. Simply because two crowd's want two different thing's. The story almost alway's lack when a dev attempt's at doing both. I love NTR for example, their will alway's be a solid fan base for it. But if you ask me, if a dev chooses to do both path. I personally would like it, so that one route get's finished first then focus on the next one. Me being an NTR fan would like that route to be finished first. It's so that the story is already done for it.

Also the two answer's given to you about the whole patreon shit. The neutral people will donate regardless of what fetishes you put in as long as the story and dialogue is top notch. Obviously if the fetishes the hater's don't like is avoidable might be a deciding factor to. For instance, i've donated on patreon to a game or two and it didn't have any of the fetishes that i liked some i didn't even like. Solely because of the good story. Anyone can make hot render's etc, but add a great story to it with consistency is tough job.

Since i typed this i got to ask, is the next update after V1.0 gonna be alpha shit again or can we expect some NTR?.

 

[Avaron1974]

If i've said it once i've said it a hundred times (odd saying that)....

Devs should always, always, always still to the game they want to make never what others want them to make it into.

I've seen far too many good games fall by the wayside and get abandoned due to listening too much to their players and turning their game into something they no longer had any passion to make.

I download these games to play what the dev is making not what random forum dweller wants the game to be.

There are a lot of games I love with content i'm not into but it's optional so I avoid it. I still love the games I just avoid the parts I dislike.

I don't mind NTR, i'm not a guy so i'm not immersed in male protag games so the NTR stuff doesn't bother me at all. I still get to see the women fuck and the women are all i'm here for.

I do prefer romance because i'm soppy and NTR goes against that so while I don't mind it I do have a preference to avoid it if avoiding it gets me to the romantic stuff.

I don't mind the NTR being there, people love it and i'm all for people enjoying themselves. I don't believe any dev should change his game to suit anyone.

By all means take ideas you think may work but story and character interaction should all be the devs work.

Every dev should enjoy making their game as much as we enjoy playing them.

These are the worlds, characters and plots the devs are bringing to us and that's how it should be.

 

[Mikey Mike]

Mikey Mike I'll tell you this. King of Lust has a vision for the game and wants to get it done. With his current team, he's got a damn good chance of getting the game he wanted to make. This is his baby, his game, his voice. He shouldn't change it for anyone. Not for any soul. He should stick to his vision and remain true. He'll profit. And let me tell you, 7 of the top 25 Adult games on Patreon according to graphtreon feature NTR content with swinging, cuckoldry, cheating and NTR. So your claim is completely false.

I may sound like a broken record..
- There are THOUSANDS of Developers and many are on here.
- Hundreds of them contain ntr and its related fetishes.
We can agree the above 2 are facts.

Now, how many have changed course because of NTR concerns/crybabies?
3 that I know of. Out of HUNDREDS. Many devs have made it optional or added a warning.
But the ones who changed to kill their original vision?? They aren't being developed anymore. They're dead. Gone, abandoned, dust.

Those games that don't change course survive. Those that do die. So if you are crying about NTR and begging the dev to remove it completely, you are flirting with killing the game for good. Why may or may not be your goal.

The takeaway? Devs should listen to their heart, not "internet warriors". With that said, from the beginning, I've had a feeling of confidence in King of Lust pulling this off and getting a few dollars in his pocket.

Contrary to what you assume, I don't care if this game has NTR or not cause it's avoidable, depending on your choices.

 

[Theboss3213]

Mikey Mike I'll tell you this. King of Lust has a vision for the game and wants to get it done. With his current team, he's got a damn good chance of getting the game he wanted to make. This is his baby, his game, his voice. He shouldn't change it for anyone. Not for any soul. He should stick to his vision and remain true. He'll profit. And let me tell you, 7 of the top 25 Adult games on Patreon according to graphtreon feature NTR content with swinging, cuckoldry, cheating and NTR. So your claim is completely false.

I may sound like a broken record..
- There are THOUSANDS of Developers and many are on here.
- Hundreds of them contain ntr and its related fetishes.
We can agree the above 2 are facts.

Now, how many have changed course because of NTR concerns/crybabies?
3 that I know of. Out of HUNDREDS. Many devs have made it optional or added a warning.
But the ones who changed to kill their original vision?? They aren't being developed anymore. They're dead. Gone, abandoned, dust.

Those games that don't change course survive. Those that do die. So if you are crying about NTR and begging the dev to remove it completely, you are flirting with killing the game for good. Why may or may not be your goal.

The takeaway? Devs should listen to their heart, not "internet warriors". With that said, from the beginning, I've had a feeling of confidence in King of Lust pulling this off and getting a few dollars in his pocket.

I had to screenshot this cause it feel's surreal reading it. muttdoggy you gained my respect if that mean's anything. This post was straight up FACTS. This should legit be send to any NTR developer's who aim's to make a game.

 

[Avaron1974]

I had to screenshot this cause it feel's surreal reading it. muttdoggy you gained my respect if that mean's anything. This post was straight up FACTS. This should legit be send to any NTR developer's who aim's to make a game.

This and Where it all Began are proof a dev can make a game with both NTR and non NTR routes.

I've played both and they have handled it well.

There are others like The Engagement that had a rocky start but that wasn't slammed for the NTR, it was the terrible characters but it seems okay now.

Point is, both can be done and have been done to pretty good success.

Of course it would be easier to make 1 group happy and focus on 1 route but everyone happier is better.

 

[Ozel]

What do you guys think about developers trying to cater to both Alpha/Harem crowd, and NTR crowd? Should they try to cater to both or choose one or the other?

Focusing on just one kink would save on development time, not having to render so many different scenes or variations of scenes, and it would cut down on the potential for continuity errors. I don't really care if a dev wants to put all kinds of different kinks in a game, as long as the players have the choice of whether they want to opt in or opt out. The main concern is whether or not it's "good," or at least has something going for it to make it interesting, like a good dramatic story, good comedy, or an interesting character or set of characters that draws the player in and makes the player want to see what's going to happen next. I honestly think that is way more important than whether or not a game caters to a specific kink, but I may be in the minority there. Maybe everyone really just skips through everything just to get to the sex scenes, though I really don't see the point of that when porn would be much easier to consume for those who just want to see sex than to bother downloading these games just to skip through to the sex scenes. XD

 

[Theboss3213]

This and Where it all Began are proof a dev can make a game with both NTR and non NTR routes.

I've played both and they have handled it well.

I completely agree with you. There has been great success with dev's who haven't quit on their vision and went through with both route's. I'm wondering, do you consider Babysitter to be a game that has done well on both route's?. I played it and i really felt that they did a good job to.

 

[RedPillBlues]

Mikey Mike7 of the top 25 Adult games on Patreon according to graphtreon feature NTR content with swinging, cuckoldry, cheating and NTR. So your claim is completely false.

And what seven is that exactly? My list has one that I can see, and that's if you use a pretty loose definition of it. The first game that I see that actually has NTR as a core theme is TT, and that blew up after a lot of the NTR was neutered.

 

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[Norman Knight]

The way I see it, the problem lies with the amount of resources that the creator has

If you can only create a limited amount of content in each update you will inevitably have to choose what you are going to give priority, of course the creator will use most of the resources in the content that he likes, leaving everything else in the background, this it's neither good nor bad it's just the way it is

and that was visible in this game, until this update came out an inequality in the content of the routes was clear, but now they are even and hardly anyone could deny it, I think the game is in a good place now ,it only remains to see what will happen next