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Sorry if there are maude fans, But Frankly, Maude scenes are becoming repeating, with a borderline of boring.
I think Maude is there to teach Philip how to be with a woman and make her feel good. She's part of the team (along with Karla and Liza) helping to close the experience gap between Philip and his rivals Marcus and Weiku.

One doesn't just become alpha in the sack overnight, so fucking Maude is part of Philip's necessary character development.

But yeah, kinking up the sex scenes with Maude could be a good idea. Philip should expand his sexual creativity for the game ladies' and ours' benefit.
 

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I think Maude is there to teach Philip how to be with a woman and make her feel good. She's part of the team (along with Karla and Liza) helping to close the experience gap between Philip and his rivals Marcus and Weiku.

One doesn't just become alpha in the sack overnight, so fucking Maude is part of Philip's necessary character development.

But yeah, kinking up the sex scenes with Maude could be a good idea. Philip should expand his sexual creativity for the game ladies' and ours' benefit.
Maude is one of the many people who are caught between the alpha and beta paths. With the MCs help, she goes back to school and betters her own situation, while schooling our young hero in the finer points of studliness. On the beta path, she has no one giving her support to go back to school, so she stays a barista and fucks Marcus. Karla, though much more established and less 'reliant' on the MC, fills a similar role to Maude in terms of experience. Not sure where she would become subject to Marcus on the beta path, but hope to see something soon.

I have a soft spot for Maude, in that she is quite cute and is a character worth rooting for as she looks to do better in the world. I do understand the clamoring for more Sunny and Tracy, though.
 

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Karla, though much more established and less 'reliant' on the MC, fills a similar role to Maude in terms of experience. Not sure where she would become subject to Marcus on the beta path, but hope to see something soon.
Doesn't she reconcile with her bf on the Beta path?
 

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Doesn't she reconcile with her bf on the Beta path?
That's correct. There's a voyeur scene with them and the MC. I doubt it would be hard for Marcus to rope her in tho considering her tastes lol. Still, that's less likely that him(marcus) and the other girls since she's got a guy.
 

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That's correct. There's a voyeur scene with them and the MC. I doubt it would be hard for Marcus to rope her in tho considering her tastes lol. Still, that's less likely that him(marcus) and the other girls since she's got a guy.
Yeah, I guess I forgot about that. That was a reconcile with bf? I thought it was just some guy she hooked up with, but you are probably right. It has been a while since I checked, and @kingoflust has stated that not all beta activities have Marcus, Weiku or the bartender.
 

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I think Maude is there to teach Philip how to be with a woman and make her feel good. She's part of the team (along with Karla and Liza) helping to close the experience gap between Philip and his rivals Marcus and Weiku.

One doesn't just become alpha in the sack overnight, so fucking Maude is part of Philip's necessary character development.

But yeah, kinking up the sex scenes with Maude could be a good idea. Philip should expand his sexual creativity for the game ladies' and ours' benefit.
Yeah yeah, she teach MC enough already. We had enough scenes of her solo fucking. Now for "fucksake" Alpha needs to be really Alpha.. It's getting very boring to fuck only one girl over & over. So, from next update, only her threesome scenes (if they exist in next update) will be instresting but not her solo scenes anymore. Other than that, what we got? 2 dollar wh*re Liza? She gives bj to MC even in beta path. She don't have standards at all. For me, my only saving factor is waifu Karla. For atleast once, he has to increase his level up in "rough kinky sex" with other main girls without the help of his slutty girlfriend..

Why marcus won't need any help? Because he is bad, bully, already is a alpha already seen cluture of city? Yeah, Ok, then, Dev should make MC also a alpha. Yes, I agree Alpha can't be a alpha overnight, but I think this game is going over a year (or 2 years?) now. So, why hasn't MC been progressed enough? Why Alpha needs to work extremely, overly, hard just to get a handjob from "main" ladies like tracy & sunny?

Now don't lecture about pace of reality, coherency etc in incest development.
Why can't MC can be a asshole & get all girls? Love love love. F*cking bullsh*t.. It's a porn game. If ntr guys enjoying around like crazy, why MC has to be a boring lover in alpha route? If it goes like this, then alpha path is only playable for romantic pure vanilla lovers. But not for the kinky lovers who are fans of non-ntr.

I came here to play this game after watching title image & previews, which shows that tracy & sunny are the main ladies of this game. So, it's hurts to realize that there isn't any much going on with both of them even after a yearful (or 2 years?) of game..
 
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Yeah yeah, she teach MC enough already. We had enough scenes of her solo fucking. Now for "fucksake" Alpha needs to be really Alpha.. It's getting very boring to fuck only one girl over & over. So, from next update, only her threesome scenes (if they exist in next update) will be instresting but not her solo scenes anymore. Other than that, what we got? 2 dollar wh*re Liza? She gives bj to MC even in beta path. She don't have standards at all. For me, my only saving factor is waifu Karla. For atleast once, he has to increase his level up in "rough kinky sex" with other main girls without the help of his slutty girlfriend..

Why marcus won't need any help? Because he is bad, bully, already is a alpha already seen cluture of city? Yeah, Ok, then, Dev should make MC also a alpha. Yes, I agree Alpha can't be a alpha overnight, but I think this game is going over a year (or 2 years?) now. So, why hasn't MC been progressed enough? Why Alpha needs to work extremely, overly, hard just to get a handjob from "main" ladies like tracy & sunny?

Now don't lecture about pace of reality, coherency etc in incest development.
Why can't MC can be a asshole & get all girls? Love love love. F*cking bullsh*t.. It's a porn game. If ntr guys enjoying around like crazy, why MC has to be a boring lover in alpha route? If it goes like this, then alpha path is only playable for romantic lovers. But not for the kinky lovers who are fans of non-ntr.

I came here to play this game after watching title image & previews, which shows that tracy & sunny are the main ladies of this game. So, it's hurts to realize that there isn't any much going on with both of them even after a yearful (or 2 years?) of game..
On top of that, Marcus has no problem getting to have his fun with multiple ladies with no one getting jealous. He's like a Harem game protag with barely any story that goes straight to the sex. While Alpha has to choose between who he goes to see.
 
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Yes, I agree Alpha can't be a alpha overnight, but I think this game is going over a year (or 2 years?) now. So, why hasn't MC been progressed enough? Why Alpha needs to work extremely, overly, hard just to get a handjob from "main" ladies like tracy & sunny?
Two years of real time development, but only about two weeks of in-game progression. So "over night" still applies.
 

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Two years of real time development, but only about two weeks of in-game progression. So "over night" still applies.
But this game's two weeks is given two years content for NTR route. (May be not, but atleast much more than compare to Alpha Route.
 
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On top of that Marcus has no problem get to have his fun with multiple ladies with no one getting jealous. He's like a Harem game protag with barely any story that goes straight to the sex. While Alpha has to choose between who he goes to see.
Not only not jealous, he is also so incredibly attractive they forget about BF's, do not mind he is a proven cheat and player that fucks every hole he comes across and still all want to be with him while knowing that, without him even having to do anything besides walking by. :p

The two weeks only in game time is on devs and their choices though (with some time skips or letting things develop differently you could easily have been three months in), just as how insanely far they put MC back compared to other NPC's and how fast they developed the NTR route with sex and even included chars in that you should never let have sex first with NPC's if you also want to do a more romantic route with them.. So those are fair criticisms, even if devs may not agree with them and see those things differently. :)
 
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This game is designed flawed from beginning only. Why Alpha guy can't go into a corrupt route & make all girls as his personal bitches? Why Alpha path is automatically equals to love & romance? Alpha is just a confident & strong personality that has nothing to do with romance or love. Non-NTR route is titled as a Alpha Route, but really, it's not totally Alpha Route. It is also a non-corrupted, pure love route (except in case of 2 dollar wh*re liza). So, dev & NTR fans should make it clear to new palyers from non-ntr fan base who want to try this game for the first time on "what this game is actually contain in both routes". Otherwise this game thread gonna get many & many negative comments from non ntr fanbase.

Because As far as I know, Non-NTR fanbase is not based on only pure romance vanilla stuff. There are tons of NON NTR fans who love corruption, kinky, rough sex in porn games (this game is not providing it). This game "took NON-NTR fanbase for granted" that they are only into slow romance pure vanilla stuff.

And, even if they are into pure romance stuff, why you think rough kinky sex is not possible between lovers? I know many real life couples who enjoy kinky rough sex (some of them are into even extreme kinks & BDSM). You can be romantic & also can be kinky & rough hardcore in bed.
 
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So when will nerd friend find some sex tapes of an unknown woman resembling tracy
i like tracy beta path, the best scene for me was mc's evedropping when Tracy and her sister talk about the date with that black guy.
Other than that script is forced too much, Marcus is a marty sue, he is good at everything.
i hope to see more tracy scenes. I like pov of mc so a leaked sextape may be used.
 
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This game is designed flawed from beginning only. Why Alpha guy can't go into a corrupt route & make all girls as his personal bitches?
Because that's how the guy telling the story wants it to be.

The game is as the developer and the story requires. If the story requires that alpha = romance rather than alpha = pussy-slaying Eric, then that's how the dev will tell it. We don't actually know yet what alpha is going to mean for MC.

All we know so far is that the story requires alpha MC to come from far far behind his rivals. Who knows, at the end he may be an even more misogynistic lay-'em-all man-whore than Marcus. And maybe he'll be a dedicated, respectful, caring lover to several women.

But at the moment, he's just starting to grow into his alpha male shoes, because that's where the story needs him to be right now.
 

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And, even if they are into pure romance stuff, why you think rough kinky sex is not possible between lovers? I know many real life couples who enjoy kinky rough sex (some of them are into even extreme kinks & BDSM). You can be romantic & also can be kinky & rough hardcore in bed.
If you're looking for rough sex, I think you may be the wrong place. There's been no hints of violence, domination, bdsm or rape anywhere in this game. Personally I don't think this game is about violence or physical intimidation. I know rough sex is a valid kink, but I think producing images of rough and/or violent sex does not fit the tone of the game.
 
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So when will nerd friend find some sex tapes of an unknown woman resembling tracy
i like tracy beta path, the best scene for me was mc's evedropping when Tracy and her sister talk about the date with that black guy.
Other than that script is forced too much, Marcus is a marty sue, he is good at everything.
i hope to see more tracy scenes. I like pov of mc so a leaked sextape may be used.
I tend to disagree. I was bummed that the dev got stuck with his old writer's "Emma in the gloryhole" storyline. Emma to me was a normal, kind of uptight girl who studied and was straightlaced. Knowing that on each path she would be getting hammered was a great attraction. Then the gloryhole thing pops up and that tension is gone, she is kind of a closet slut. Tracy banging that bartender and admitting to being Liza-lite back in the day kind of had the same effect: her eventual downfall would just be a return to depravity. A sextape would just be the same kind of thing.

If I have one critique of the game, it is that it has few targets that make unbridled sex (on either path) a new development, a descent into wantonness and abandon. Sunny is the best example of this, and as such her scenes are the hottest in my opinion. I am hoping that Dr Rai and the Chinese teacher fulfill this role as well. Bottom line, though, is I trust the dev to put out a quality product.
 

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If I have one critique of the game, it is that it has few targets that make unbridled sex (on either path) a new development, a descent into wantonness and abandon. Sunny is the best example of this, and as such her scenes are the hottest in my opinion. I am hoping that Dr Rai and the Chinese teacher fulfill this role as well. Bottom line, though, is I trust the dev to put out a quality product.
You make a good point, but I also think that's one of the keys to the tension in the the game. The women in this game are nymphos by nature. Some have managed to control it for years and as a result their capitulation is that much hotter.

Marcus awakening Sunny's sexuality has been hot as hell. But seeing someone who knows better and resisted their lust now reaching the point where they give in and lapse back into irresponsible hedonism? That's fire too.
 
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If you're looking for rough sex, I think you may be the wrong place. There's been no hints of violence, domination, bdsm or rape anywhere in this game. Personally I don't think this game is about violence or physical intimidation. I know rough sex is a valid kink, but I think producing images of rough and/or violent sex does not fit the tone of the game.
But marcus scenes look like more rough & kinky than MC. But, yeah as u said, this game dev wants MC to be romantic Alpha rather than a Alpha who is like dominant. That's what my prblm is. I seen this prblm in many optional ntr games. Where ntr routes will be rough & kinky, but non ntr will be just romantic. What about the fans like me? Who are not into romance but still hate ntr? You saying there is no optional ntr game which satisfies the players like me? WHY? Why these developers who are creating optional ntr games are hell bent in making two routes only?

You know the TYRANT game? Really hats off to that developer. He clearly taught about non-ntr fans & divided non-ntr path into two routes. Love & Corruption. That's how the game should be done. Otherwise, we non-ntr fans who are non-romantic have no choice but to avoid these optional ntr games. And don't think non-ntr fans who are non-romantic are less in number, that's why devs are not creating that route. That's bullshit. If that is true, many non-ntr fans have to love this game. But why i'm seeing so much hate for harem route in this game? Because we are not into romantic stuff. Even if we are into romantic stuff, we love kinky rough sex too.

You said, there is no chance in this story to provide rough kinky in harem path, I disagree. Why? Because, Maude is a easy slut gf who seems to be ready for anything. So, I don't think she will say no to rough kinky sex even it is bdsm too. It's all depends on dev. Don't say it doesn't fit the story. It can fit the story if dev wants to.
 
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But marcus scenes look like more rough & kinky than MC. But, yeah as u said, this game dev wants MC to be romantic Alpha rather than a Alpha who is like dominant. That's what my prblm is. I seen this prblm in many optional ntr games. Where ntr routes will be rough & kinky, but non ntr will be just romantic. What about the fans like me? Who are not into romance but still hate ntr? You saying there is no optional ntr game which satisfies the players like me? WHY? Why these developers who are creating optional ntr games are hell bent in making two routes only?

You know the TYRANT game? Really hats off to that developer. He clearly taught about non-ntr fans & divided non-ntr path into two routes. Love & Corruption. That's how the game should be done. Otherwise, we non-ntr fans who are non-romantic have no choice but to avoid these optional ntr games. And don't think non-ntr fans who are non-romantic are less in number, that's why devs are not creating that route. That's bullshit. If that is true, many non-ntr fans have to love this game. But why i'm seeing so much hate for harem route in this game? Because we are not into romantic stuff. Even if we are into romantic stuff, we love kinky rough sex too.

You said, there is no chance in this story to provide rough kinky in harem path, I disagree. Why? Because, Maude is a easy slut gf who seems to be ready for anything. So, I don't think she will say no to rough kinky sex even it is bdsm too. It's all depends on dev. Don't say it doesn't fit the story. It can fit the story if dev wants to.
NTR haters are very vocal from what I've seen around the block. This is why :)

Everyone has their kink and most people understand this, but there is a very vocal minority of NTR haters. It's a minority that act crazy about their dislike, but they are very vocal.
 
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