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I don't get all the Chloe dissing. Chloe is smarter and is into BDSM. And this game is focused on BDSM, so players are expected to be interested into it too, right? And buttseks is icky.
Chloe looks anorexic. In the early chapters she had an advantage because she was into bdsm and petplay. In later chapters Emily also got into bdsm and petplay. But Chloe didn't get anything new, so she lost her only exclusivity.

Emily is the complete package with romance+body+kink.
 

juanel0

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I really don't know why some developers pull that shit!!They know exactly what players want but for some reason they just ignore it and won't do it.It's so frustrating to play a game for almost two years and not getting the ending that you want.
It's not even "the ending that i want", it's just "Why end it here?, now?", before the past update there was nothing that point to an ending, it came out of nowhere.

And because of that the ending feel rush and incomplete. Like there was supposed to be more updates, more content, way more caracter development that lead to an end, but not, he just end the game.
 

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I agree there was a lot that could have been (ahem, HAREM ending) but overall I enjoyed the journey. I liked a couple of the endings, but I still see your point.
ok, MAYBE there couldn't be a HAREM ending because Emily it's kind of the Jealose type, the "He can be with you but can only love me" type. And Rachel could be an ending, but i seriusly doubt you can convince for a thresome with her daughters without making choises out of caracter (that still happend).

But again, after all the progress in Episode 3, Rachel got forgoten, and i like Emily and Chloe endings, but i hated the Rachel/Susan part of the ending because it feels like all the progress of Episode 3 never happend.
 
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Well fuck me, its been so long since I actually played this (just after the Island) that I'm probably going to have to do a fresh start.... that's ALOT of events to get through again. x.X

Can you finally fuck the younger sister?
Yep, everyone is on the menu in the end...
 
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It's not even "the ending that i want", it's just "Why end it here?, now?", before the past update there was nothing that point to an ending, it came out of nowhere.

And because of that the ending feel rush and incomplete. Like there was supposed to be more updates, more content, way more caracter development that lead to an end, but not, he just end the game.
Well it's obvious that he was tired of this game and that's a bit understandable because it's been going on for three years but he could have at least made the best of it and made a good ending with the right characters.
 

juanel0

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Well it's obvious that he was tired of this game and that's a bit understandable because it's been going on for three years but he could have at least made the best of it and made a good ending with the right characters.
i get it, but in other cases the dev literaly put the game "on hold" and work on something else instead of ruining a 3 years work with a bad ending...

Like i say, the travel is good (most of it), but when you know that there is no Rachel ending and that Rachel in the epiloge act like there was no episode 3 and all the promises that were broken made in episode 3, playing that hurts...

If you were never a fan of Rachel and you loved Emily or Chloe since the begging you'll have no big problems with the ending. But still... that came out of nowhere.
 

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ok, MAYBE there couldn't be a HAREM ending because Emily it's kind of the Jealose type, the "He can be with you but can only love me" type. And Rachel could be an ending, but i seriusly doubt you can convince for a thresome with her daughters without making choises out of caracter (that still happend).

But again, after all the progress in Episode 3, Rachel got forgoten, and i like Emily and Chloe endings, but i hated the Rachel/Susan part of the ending because it feels like all the progress of Episode 3 never happend.
Yeah, I guess the Rachel crowd wasn't the biggest and I get the impression that the storyline that was implied in chapter 2&3 was phased out for the more popular girls.
I never really saw Rachel as part of a harem ending with Chloe and Emily, but earlier on I got the sense that there was one with just her and the MC. In the end it left me with a feeling of lacking.
But everyone's different and that's just me, not every game will turn out the way we hope. Seems like many more got the ending they wanted so that's good! :)
 
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It's not even "the ending that i want", it's just "Why end it here?, now?", before the past update there was nothing that point to an ending, it came out of nowhere.

And because of that the ending feel rush and incomplete. Like there was supposed to be more updates, more content, way more caracter development that lead to an end, but not, he just end the game.
The game reached a point where MC is fucking everyone in every position and in every hole.
What 'new thing' could have been added ? More of the same ?
Patreon rules forbid incest and the characters were developed with either a strong opposition or at the very least no innuendo at all regarding this fetish. So this development was out too.
And last but not least, you need to stop a story where there is nothing left to do. It's been two years and statistically the number of patrons drops after 1.5 years. So the marriage thing with 3 paths was as close as possible to a harem ending.
I read the comments about the shift in between Chapter 3 and Chapter 4. See them storywise. Chapter 3 was about MC proving that he could act like the man of the house, through discipline. He did that. Chapter 4 was about proving his Uncle that he could replace him in his job. So less emphasis on discipline. He did that to. The series of chapter describe an initiation. End of Chapter 4 the initiation is completed.
And also, knowing that ultimately it would be a harem ending, kind of, they were some characters with whom the discipline had to be stopped. Emily for one. And I was a strong advocate of this line among the patrons in our discussions on Discord. You can't imagine a romantic ending with a girl you just strapped or let be strapped (by Amy) if the said girl is not into pain fetish. Not all the patrons were fanatics of disciplinary spanking, although 90% were in favor of erotic / BDMS ones.
Last word about Rachel. Again, storywise, how can you imagine that a woman who repeatedly said she was in love with her husband, in her own way and within the love triangle with Susan, how can you think that she'd marry MC just 6 months after her husband died?
No more 'Master' when back on the yacht? Yes, maybe. She's with Susan now, another dom who might not like that too much when out of the particular island atmosphere. And it's a way also to show that a page has been turned. Rachel steps back to leave MC with one of her daughters.
She fancies MC, he's there for fun, nothing more. So no Rachel ending. But you get to see her in all 3 endings.
As for me, the game stopped when it had to, and in a superb way. Let's hope the next one is of the same quality.
But that's just me.
 
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Yeah, I guess the Rachel crowd wasn't the biggest and I get the impression that the storyline that was implied in chapter 2&3 was phased out for the more popular girls.
I never really saw Rachel as part of a harem ending with Chloe and Emily, but earlier on I got the sense that there was one with just her and the MC. In the end it left me with a feeling of lacking.
But everyone's different and that's just me, not every game will turn out the way we hope. Seems like many more got the ending they wanted so that's good! :)
Yeah, but even if you are going to cut Rachel out, the scenes in the epilog with her is really weird, like Episode 3 never happend. And if you are gonig to focus that much in Emily and Chloe, a few more updates in a more "serious" relationship with them, not just a "pick one" and a few conversations that tells you "this is the end".

More like just "common but serious" events that helps you, the player, see wich kind of event and you like the most. Not a interview to see who to marry.
 

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i get it, but in other cases the dev literaly put the game "on hold" and work on something else instead of ruining a 3 years work with a bad ending...

Like i say, the travel is good (most of it), but when you know that there is no Rachel ending and that Rachel in the epiloge act like there was no episode 3 and all the promises that were broken made in episode 3, playing that hurts...

If you were never a fan of Rachel and you loved Emily or Chloe since the begging you'll have no big problems with the ending. But still... that came out of nowhere.
Well he could have put it on hold but i understand that he wanted to wrap it up quickly and start working on a new game with a new passion but i still strongly believe it would have been the best if instead of an Amy ending we got a Rachel ending.
I really loved the authoritarian attitude with Rachel in chapter 3,It would have been an amazing thing if we could have gotten an ending with Rachel based on that.
 

juanel0

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Well he could have put it on hold but i understand that he wanted to wrap it up quickly and start working on a new game with a new passion but i still strongly believe it would have been the best if instead of an Amy ending we got a Rachel ending.
I really loved the authoritarian attitude with Rachel in chapter 3,It would have been an amazing thing if we could have gotten an ending with Rachel based on that.
Yeah i get you, or at leat keep that same attitude in the epiloge, that would have been good too.
 
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The game reached a point where MC is fucking everyone in every position and in every hole.
What 'new thing' could have been added ? More of the same ?
Patreon rules forbid incest and the characters were developed with either a strong opposition or at the very least no innuendo at all regarding this fetish. So this development was out too.
And last but not least, you need to stop a story where there is nothing left to do. It's been two years and statistically the number of patrons drops after 1.5 years. So the marriage thing with 3 paths was as close as possible to a harem ending.
I read the comments about the shift in between Chapter 3 and Chapter 4. See them storywise. Chapter 3 was about MC proving that he could act like the man of the house, through discipline. He did that. Chapter 4 was about proving his Uncle that he could replace him in his job. So less emphasis on discipline. He did that to. The series of chapter describe an initiation. End of Chapter 4 the initiation is completed.
And also, knowing that ultimately it would be a harem ending, kind of, they were some characters with whom the discipline had to be stopped. Emily for one. And I was a strong advocate of this line among the patrons in our discussions on Discord. You can't imagine a romantic ending with a girl you just strapped or let be strapped (by Amy) if the said girl is not into pain fetish. Not all the patrons were fanatics of disciplinary spanking, although 90% were in favor of erotic / BDMS ones.
Last word about Rachel. Again, storywise, how can you imagine that a woman who repeatedly said she was in love with her husband, in her own way and within the love triangle with Susan, how can you think that she'd marry MC just 6 months after her husband died?
No more 'Master' when back on the yacht? Yes, maybe. She's with Susan now, another dom who might not like that too much when out of the particular island atmosphere. And it's a way also to show that a page has been turned. Rachel steps back to leave MC with one of her daughters.
She fancies MC, he's there for fun, nothing more. So no Rachel ending. But you get to see her in all 3 endings.
As for me, the game stopped when it had to, and in a superb way. Let's hope the next one is of the same quality.
But that's just me.
I understand that a harem ending was far fetched and honestly i didn't expect this game to have a harem ending and that's totally fine with me.
But about Rachel being too upset about his husband death to marry MC I disagree,in a phone call to Rachel after her husband's death she was so happy and having so much fun with Susan in the island that she couldn't stay and talk to MC and ended the conversation as fast as she could,so I don't know why she couldn't be this happy with MC.And actually i didn't want any threesomes in Rachel ending with her daughters,only her and Susan.
I believe it could have been done story wise but I respect the dev and his choices and he truly made a great game but it feels bad man,to play a game for two fucking years and not get the ending that you wanted.
 

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I have a plan. We should identify all characters assets and make "community cut" with "true" ending))))
I doubt it would be anywhere near as good as thegary's renders.
Unfortunately we can't always get the endings that we want in games,this game wasn't the first in that regard and it won't be the last and we need to accept that.
 

juanel0

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The game reached a point where MC is fucking everyone in every position and in every hole.
What 'new thing' could have been added ? More of the same ?
Patreon rules forbid incest and the characters were developed with either a strong opposition or at the very least no innuendo at all regarding this fetish. So this development was out too.
And last but not least, you need to stop a story where there is nothing left to do. It's been two years and statistically the number of patrons drops after 1.5 years. So the marriage thing with 3 paths was as close as possible to a harem ending.
I read the comments about the shift in between Chapter 3 and Chapter 4. See them storywise. Chapter 3 was about MC proving that he could act like the man of the house, through discipline. He did that. Chapter 4 was about proving his Uncle that he could replace him in his job. So less emphasis on discipline. He did that to. The series of chapter describe an initiation. End of Chapter 4 the initiation is completed.
And also, knowing that ultimately it would be a harem ending, kind of, they were some characters with whom the discipline had to be stopped. Emily for one. And I was a strong advocate of this line among the patrons in our discussions on Discord. You can't imagine a romantic ending with a girl you just strapped or let be strapped (by Amy) if the said girl is not into pain fetish. Not all the patrons were fanatics of disciplinary spanking, although 90% were in favor of erotic / BDMS ones.
Last word about Rachel. Again, storywise, how can you imagine that a woman who repeatedly said she was in love with her husband, in her own way and within the love triangle with Susan, how can you think that she'd marry MC just 6 months after her husband died?
No more 'Master' when back on the yacht? Yes, maybe. She's with Susan now, another dom who might not like that too much when out of the particular island atmosphere. And it's a way also to show that a page has been turned. Rachel steps back to leave MC with one of her daughters.
She fancies MC, he's there for fun, nothing more. So no Rachel ending. But you get to see her in all 3 endings.
As for me, the game stopped when it had to, and in a superb way. Let's hope the next one is of the same quality.
But that's just me.
I agree with some of the things here, not with all of them. But you have several good points.

The incest thing, you are right, there couldn't been any incest because of patreon, even if you have a thresome with Emily and Chloe is more like a one time thing.

The MC was doing anythin in any way with anyone. Kind of true, there wasn't a lot more to explore, it was time to give it an ending, but i also explain in another post how it could have been and why that the past update and this one are a rushed ending, because in-game nothing told you "this is the end of the journey" it just happend.

"they were some characters with whom the discipline had to be stopped" True, but episode 3 show you the alternative with Emily. You can keep the discipline with and just get rid of the spanking and pain as punishment, at least for Chloe(that consider it a reward), and Emily and Amy that don't need it to "punish" them. You could keep it for Rachel, but as we see, the doesn't matter anymore.

"Again, storywise, how can you imagine that a woman who repeatedly said she was in love with her husband, in her own way and within the love triangle with Susan, how can you think that she'd marry MC just 6 months after her husband died?"
The dead of his husband is part of what came out of nowhere, and one of my problems with the past update. That she'll marry the MC?, YES, but i'll tell you about that in a moment.

"See them storywise. Chapter 3 was about MC proving that he could act like the man of the house, through discipline. He did that. Chapter 4 was about proving his Uncle that he could replace him in his job" True, but this does come with something i notice whe i started playing every chapter once more a few days ago.

In every phone call you have with him you uncle insist that you get with Rachel, that you replace him with her, that you take his place, and he doesn't mean just his job or a temporary thing. He wants you to be with Rachel after he is gone... that ending doesn't exist.

Now the problema that i have that can be fixed or that i could have been fixed.

"No more 'Master' when back on the yacht? Yes, maybe. She's with Susan now, another dom who might not like that too much when out of the particular island atmosphere. And it's a way also to show that a page has been turned. Rachel steps back to leave MC with one of her daughters."

The part "Rachel steps back to leave MC with one of her daughters." it's kind of ok. Again, it came the past update, it wasn't something like a conversation with Rachel about how he would marry one of her daughter and their relationship would have to stop or at leat slow down, that would have been nice.

"No more 'Master' when back on the yacht? Yes, maybe. She's with Susan now, another dom who might not like that too much when out of the particular island atmosphere" The problem is that they say it in the fucking island. That Rachel WANTS to keep the Master-Miss with MC and Susan in the Yatch. The MC thinks it's a bad idea, Rachel WANTS to do it, and without Emily or Chloe close, Susan wouldn't have any problem with that.


The game couldn't go on forever and i needed to end?, YES. But as i say, one upate everything is alright and the end is nowhere to be seen and the next one "Chose one, the game ends next update and one of the Main girls in the first 3 Episodes is not one option, this other girls that was a "side" girl since she came is the other option" it's not a good way to end any game.

As i say, if you never liked or were never a fan of Rachel and loved Emily or Chloe since the begging it probably be a "good" ending for you, it wasn't nor a good not a satisfactory ending for me. And again, it could have been a lot better with more that one update to chose and accept that you'll marry one of them

And the Marriage thing really came out of nowhere. In no other update there was a mention of that. It's just a rushed ending for a game that was my favorite, and now is a game that i can't think bout without the word disappointment.
 

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I think all these outcries for a Rachel ending is partly because we actually have almost no story or relationship progression with Rachel after the yacht (also Linda and Susan but people are generally meh at them so whatever). It would've been nice to have at least a more detailed closure with her.

Like I said, I felt like this game could've used four or five more updates to give up more time with Rachel, explore more of the BDSM stuff between the girls, and as a whole better writing for the added side characters (or just delete them all together).

Let's hope TheGary continues his great work in his next project.
 

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I think all these outcries for a Rachel ending is partly because we actually have almost no story or relationship progression with Rachel after the yacht (also Linda and Susan but people are generally meh at them so whatever). It would've been nice to have at least a more detailed closure with her.

Like I said, I felt like this game could've used four or five more updates to give up more time with Rachel, explore more of the BDSM stuff between the girls, and as a whole better writing for the added side characters (or just delete them all together).

Let's hope TheGary continues his great work in his next project.
Yes, that is the problem, that after episode 3 focused on her she just dissapears. It appears in one or two events but nothing that matter.
 
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