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As what the dev wrote at the end of cyber.rpy:
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i dont know much about what happend to the dev of the game here but if he is no longer with the liveing may he rest in peace
Do you guys know him in real life? i see a lot of death speculation here, could he have been imprisoned? Either for something unrelated or maybe there are laws around these games in brazil? (complete speculation)
Not a problem in Brazil with these games.
Someone here was in contact with him when he got sick, and Dengue was really a huge problem last summer here.
damn, this looks good, wish the dev comes back, I wanted to sub to his pat, pay for what I got but noticed the last update was in feb
Anyone know if the dev has like a discord or contact page or something? Wasn't able to find anything on his itch or subscribestar :/
hey man i was playing the game and didnt saw the abandoned tag and sinice some of the games a played recently were abendoned i thoght "a game so fucking good is impossible to be abadoned" then for my surprise when i came here i saw all of that and shit... what a loss of a guy and a game unfortunatly this link is broken could you please upload it again ? RabidSloth
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Took some digging but luckily I still had it. I got you:
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Serious note here. This is much harder than you probably thing it is. I definitely do not know your qualifications or anything buuut as we both know it this is a very well put together little story with great ideas and a nice framework + UI for sandbox elements. Was a very ambitious project. Perhaps too ambitious.
He might have claimed to be a rookie.. but i'm sure he wasn't quite a rookie. You would need experience to get here.
IF you were to be serious.. I strongly suggest not to do this as a first project. You will massacre your first project. Projects in fact. NEVER use your main inspiration/idea as your first project. Until much later when you actually know what you are doing.
His excitement was almost tangible. But.. that's a double edged sword. One has to temper it. I won't be beating around the bush. Either life took a big dump on him.. or all of this excessive excitement came crashing down on him and he burnt out and did so rapidly and crushingly. You may think this isn't possible or likely.. i know it's possible. Some people experience massive burn outs exactly like this. They stand from the proverbial chair, go for a bottle of milk.. aaand you will never see them again. It does happen.
And to be honest.. i hope this latter was the case. Because i don't wish the former on him.
PS. Yes, i wrote from the future.
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(Was editing this and accidentally deleted it lol)
Among the many things that Matt and I had in common, one was the wide variety of weird perversions we shared lol. I actually rewrote (or rather remixed) a few of the scenes in the game, just for private use, and passed them along to him to hear what he thought. He gave them really high praise, and encouraged me to try making my own game. Granted, he may have just been being nice, but it still encouraged me nonetheless.
Anyway one thought I keep entertaining is taking the time to learn Ren'Py. Then doing something like a "fan remix" of CFD. And then making a new game that would basically be a continuation and conclusion of it. NOT for any money mind you! Just something if for no other reason I think I'd like to do for myself, for Matt, and then maybe just share it with any other CFD fans that might be interested in it. I guess you could call it a CFD fan-fiction/tribute in the form of a game (well a remix of the original, and then a sequel to finish it).
There's just so much I knew he was planning to do and I was so excited to see it all. I don't want to spoil anything specific though in case I actually do it. I still have a lot of notes and reference material from a lot of the stuff we talked about. He and I were on the same page with like 95% of everything we discussed as far as kinks and stuff (which was a lot lol). And if I ever did decide to give legit deving a try one day, it might be good practice too maybe.
But I would have a lot to learn past what little I currently know about Ren'Py. Right now I can only really do some very basic modding. And then I'd see if anyone knowledgeable could perhaps give me some advice as far as helping me identify the right DAZ models or estimating the right settings (I'd have to learn DAZ from the ground up). I'd want the character models to be faithful to the original versions.
Anyway, I'm mostly just dreaming out loud right now, and I was just curious if anyone who's still hanging around might have any thoughts on it or not. It may or may not ever even happen, and if it did, it may take a good amount of time before it turns from just a pipe-dream into a reality. I just want to be clear so that I don't disappoint anyone who might have been interested in it.
Among the many things that Matt and I had in common, one was the wide variety of weird perversions we shared lol. I actually rewrote (or rather remixed) a few of the scenes in the game, just for private use, and passed them along to him to hear what he thought. He gave them really high praise, and encouraged me to try making my own game. Granted, he may have just been being nice, but it still encouraged me nonetheless.
Anyway one thought I keep entertaining is taking the time to learn Ren'Py. Then doing something like a "fan remix" of CFD. And then making a new game that would basically be a continuation and conclusion of it. NOT for any money mind you! Just something if for no other reason I think I'd like to do for myself, for Matt, and then maybe just share it with any other CFD fans that might be interested in it. I guess you could call it a CFD fan-fiction/tribute in the form of a game (well a remix of the original, and then a sequel to finish it).
There's just so much I knew he was planning to do and I was so excited to see it all. I don't want to spoil anything specific though in case I actually do it. I still have a lot of notes and reference material from a lot of the stuff we talked about. He and I were on the same page with like 95% of everything we discussed as far as kinks and stuff (which was a lot lol). And if I ever did decide to give legit deving a try one day, it might be good practice too maybe.
But I would have a lot to learn past what little I currently know about Ren'Py. Right now I can only really do some very basic modding. And then I'd see if anyone knowledgeable could perhaps give me some advice as far as helping me identify the right DAZ models or estimating the right settings (I'd have to learn DAZ from the ground up). I'd want the character models to be faithful to the original versions.
Anyway, I'm mostly just dreaming out loud right now, and I was just curious if anyone who's still hanging around might have any thoughts on it or not. It may or may not ever even happen, and if it did, it may take a good amount of time before it turns from just a pipe-dream into a reality. I just want to be clear so that I don't disappoint anyone who might have been interested in it.
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This sounds like very good advice.
I didn't want to elaborate more in the first post, just in case I was droning on about something that no one cared about or would ever actually happen. But just to clarify a bit what my plans would (might) be, it would basically be a very scaled down version of the game. Probably the biggest example would be the epic overarching story with the Omega cult. I don't know where Matt was ultimately planning to go with that, and I don't think he did either, because he seemed to still be ironing out a lot of the the details whenever we discussed it. So that would be cut. Also probably several of the dolls that were never implemented (with Jackie being an exception. We talked A LOT about Jackie
). Basically the focus would be on the freeroam aspects, the premise and setting, with smaller stories centered around the different characters in a sandbox. I referred to it as a fan remix because a lot would get cut (as far as the original story, not the sex content) and the rest would either get altered or shuffled around. And it would lay the foundation for what I had in mind for the "sequel".
Anyone who was super-invested in the main story would probably be disappointed. It'd be mostly for the people liked me who loved the characters, the setting, the sandbox stuff, and all the smut lol. Not *all* of his plans that he had would be implemented. Just a lot of them as far as the characters and the sex/romance/harem content. He had a lot planned for Ava, for Judy, Jackie, Luna, Mimi, etc. even the blue-haired bouncer chick. And I just hate the idea of none of it ever seeing the light of day.
Because as you said, this was a *VERY* ambitious project. But that's why I would try to be as clear as possible about what it is and is not.
But I think you're right as far as not doing it as a first project. Maybe I should just start out with a small sandbox. Something akin to that Free Use House game. Just to cut my teeth and learn, and then when/if I feel confident, then give it a go.
I'd love it if you were right. I'm still sure that he's gone. But if he miraculously popped up one day, I'd have a celebration lol. I'd bitch him out (out of love) for letting me think he was dead lol. But I'd be over the moon to find out that he's still breathing.
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Also there would definitely be some select differences. Matt mentioned a lot of times that certain pieces of dialogue were things that he'd really would have liked to write differently, but he was really trying to work up to making a decent wage with the game, and that involved making some concessions to the Patrons. I wouldn't really go as out of my way to cater to certain things. Especially knowing how he also felt about them, and that he only did certain things for the sake of his paying supporters (which I understood and didn't hold against him of course). I wouldn't be beholden to them, and I think my style would be closer to what he would have done if he didn't have to worry as much about backlash
I'm curious, what do you think would have changed if he didn't care about backlash?Also there would definitely be some select differences. Matt mentioned a lot of times that certain pieces of dialogue were things that he'd really would have liked to write differently, but he was really trying to work up to making a decent wage with the game, and that involved making some concessions to the Patrons. I wouldn't really go as out of my way to cater to certain things. Especially knowing how he also felt about them, and that he only did certain things for the sake of his paying supporters (which I understood and didn't hold against him of course). I wouldn't be beholden to them, and I think my style would be closer to what he would have done if he didn't have to worry as much about backlash
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Nothing too drastic. It wouldn't have been a completely different game or anything.
Most of it was about dialogue related to any form of sharing. Not just with other men, but with women as well. Something that a lot of devs do because of overwhelming demand is for there to be *constant* lines of reassurance given to the MC (but really to the player). Which is often done to such a degree that it almost starts to become fourth wall breaking when it's done with so much frequency. It often feels too obvious and unnatural. Kind of like whenever a dev will go out of their way to mention that both parties are 18 like forty times in one conversation lol.
He and I were of a similar mind that there should basically be one conversation at the beginning to clarify things about sexual interactions with other people, set ground rules, etc. and then after that just let the fun begin. To each their own and everything, but he and I were also firmly in the "other chicks don't count" camp.
In my personal opinion, when an LI has to constantly go on some tirade of reassurance about how the MC and his cock are the center of her universe, both before, during, and after every single sexual encounter, it comes across way more like insecurity to me than it does being "alpha". Especially when we're just talking about girl/girl content.
One example is how every time the MC would spy on them having some lesbo fun through the cameras (Ava/Mimi, Ava/Judy, etc.) there always had to be multiple lines of dialogue about the MC inserted so that basically the players wouldn't get upset. Even players who had lesbian and sharing content flagged on still had to sit though multiple lines of it every time. It just made my eyes roll every time. To me it makes it seem like the MC is so emotionally delicate that he's going to fall apart if his two girlfriends fool around with each other, but they don't take multiple moments throughout it to bring up the MC and his super-cock. Even if they already did that once, and he's not even in the room. And again, this is nothing that's exclusive to CFD. Granted, some devs may legitimately prefer it that way themselves. But a lot of devs do that kind of thing because they kind of have to if they don't want to lose supporters.
One thing we often laughed about was the "Super Vanilla" mode. I don't recall if it was an actual plan, or if he was just joking around, but he often said he thought it'd be funny if every time the people who turned that on looked through the cameras all they would ever see would be the girls alone in their rooms, bored out of their minds, because the MC doesn't want them ever doing anything without him being directly involved lol. Even though it's basically a closed-circle harem that he's the king of, they'd still feel upset about it if the girls played together when he wasn't available or around, or if they did but they didn't mention him three or four times during it.
That's not really meant as an attack or anything. Again, to each their own. We all have our tastes and preferences. I certainly have several that I know the majority of people would find dumb or even weird. But the constant reassurance thing was something that he and I both found very annoying due to our own tastes, but he had to include it because his hands were kind of tied.
Sorry if any of that came across as judgmental or hostile towards anyone. I'm recovering from surgery at the moment and am in pain and ornery as fuck right now
Hard agree with all this tbh lolNothing too drastic. It wouldn't have been a completely different game or anything.
Most of it was about dialogue related to any form of sharing. Not just with other men, but with women as well. Something that a lot of devs do because of overwhelming demand is for there to be *constant* lines of reassurance given to the MC (but really to the player). Which is often done to such a degree that it almost starts to become fourth wall breaking when it's done with so much frequency. It often feels too obvious and unnatural. Kind of like whenever a dev will go out of their way to mention that both parties are 18 like forty times in one conversation lol.
He and I were of a similar mind that there should basically be one conversation at the beginning to clarify things about sexual interactions with other people, set ground rules, etc. and then after that just let the fun begin. To each their own and everything, but he and I were also firmly in the "other chicks don't count" camp.
In my personal opinion, when an LI has to constantly go on some tirade of reassurance about how the MC and his cock are the center of her universe, both before, during, and after every single sexual encounter, it comes across way more like insecurity to me than it does being "alpha". Especially when we're just talking about girl/girl content.
One example is how every time the MC would spy on them having some lesbo fun through the cameras (Ava/Mimi, Ava/Judy, etc.) there always had to be multiple lines of dialogue about the MC inserted so that basically the players wouldn't get upset. Even players who had lesbian and sharing content flagged on still had to sit though multiple lines of it every time. It just made my eyes roll every time. To me it makes it seem like the MC is so emotionally delicate that he's going to fall apart if his two girlfriends fool around with each other, but they don't take multiple moments throughout it to bring up the MC and his super-cock. Even if they already did that once, and he's not even in the room. And again, this is nothing that's exclusive to CFD. Granted, some devs may legitimately prefer it that way themselves. But a lot of devs do that kind of thing because they kind of have to if they don't want to lose supporters.
One thing we often laughed about was the "Super Vanilla" mode. I don't recall if it was an actual plan, or if he was just joking around, but he often said he thought it'd be funny if every time the people who turned that on looked through the cameras all they would ever see would be the girls alone in their rooms, bored out of their minds, because the MC doesn't want them ever doing anything without him being directly involved lol. Even though it's basically a closed-circle harem that he's the king of, they'd still feel upset about it if the girls played together when he wasn't available or around, or if they did but they didn't mention him three or four times during it.
That's not really meant as an attack or anything. Again, to each their own. We all have our tastes and preferences. I certainly have several that I know the majority of people would find dumb or even weird. But the constant reassurance thing was something that he and I both found very annoying due to our own tastes, but he had to include it because his hands were kind of tied.
Sorry if any of that came across as judgmental or hostile towards anyone. I'm recovering from surgery at the moment and am in pain and ornery as fuck right now
thanks man
Recently, I went through a lot of games trying to find something that interested me (that’s how I found CFD). The ones I liked the most were abandoned, and I wondered why no one had ever continued games like these. Then today, I opened the forum and saw this. I know it’s just a thought for now, but everything starts as a thought, right?
That’s exactly why I went through so many games (20 pages, I believe), downloading and testing to find ones that really hit the mark. When I found CFD, it was way more than I could have ever asked for. Normally, games fit one or two kinks, but this one checked almost all of the —even a couple I didn’t personally like, but that’s fine. I can skip those, and I’m sure others enjoy them, so it’s perfect. I’d love to chat with you and trade some game recommendations, lol. I wish I’d found this game while it was still active so I could talk with my fellow Brazilian about it. Unfortunately, it’s a bit late… or maybe not. Who knows what could happen!
Glad you didn't say "continuing" on... One thing I always nagged Matt about was his mess of codebase. Back then I tried to work with him on some major refactoring and let's say I had quite a time piecing together what goes where
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Couldn't have said it better lol.
Sure thing! DM me sometime. It's my birthday today so I was just checking in for a second but I should be back lurking around in a day or so.
I remember reading something about that, about the complicated code. It may have even been comments by you
. Like I said, I would have a lot of learning to do. But once I really sit down and get familiar with it all I have wondered if maybe it might be easier to just build something from scratch and just use the images from the original game. Especially since I'd be cutting out chunks of the story anyway. As I mentioned, I'm still very much an amateur. So all I've really done so far for fun is just go through and edit different scenes with remixed and supplemental dialogue, shuffled the timing of certain images to flow with that better, etc. It can get a little frustrating because I'll think of additional stuff I wish I could do with some scenes, but I only have what's there to work with. That does fuel my desire to want to learn more about Ren'Py and DAZ though lol.