Corvus Belli

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Can't she have a bit of her own agenda and say no without forcing MC to speak for her unless he wants her pounded to kingdom come?
Well . . . by dint of the fact that this is a game, and it's determined by the choice of the player which storylines will or will not open, with none being deemed a deafult, then no, she can't have any of her own agency. She won't say "yes" or "no" to any available option without the players input, and the game often elects for those decisions to be made in-game, too.
D never actually chooses anything; the player makes all the decisions, because that's how choices in games work if there's no default. You want a MFF route with Elena, then you make the choices that will lead there. You want to have a D/F only route, then you make those choices too; funnily enough, if you want a MMF route, you have to make that choice, too.
 

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Well . . . by dint of the fact that this is a game, and it's determined by the choice of the player which storylines will or will not open, with none being deemed a deafult, then no, she can't have any of her own agency. She won't say "yes" or "no" to any available option without the players input, and the game often elects for those decisions to be made in-game, too.
D never actually chooses anything; the player makes all the decisions, because that's how choices in games work if there's no default. You want a MFF route with Elena, then you make the choices that will lead there. You want to have a D/F only route, then you make those choices too; funnily enough, if you want a MMF route, you have to make that choice, too.
well... actually D tells you not to go to the police and if you do, you lose points... among many other things
 

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One is not personal, one is.
The fact it's personal doesn't mean it's wrong, does it?
When someone says in one post that D should have agency to say no to other potential sexual partners, and then in their very next post say that the only sharing route they'd be willing to accept is one in which F pressures her into it, then they do come off as something of a caricature, and do appear to be taking the piss (a.k.a. trolling).
You may agree or disagree with that assessment, but someone calling such a person a troll isn't necessarily wrong, are they?

No half-decent father would want their daughter to do that stuff.
No "half-decent father" would be fucking their daughter, either, so I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed.
And, even if you disagree on that, I'd also argue no "half-decent father" would be cheating on their daughter/girlfriend with nearly every other woman they know; again, your mileage may vary.

well... actually D tells you not to go to the police and if you do, you lose points... among many other things
Yes, but the choice of whether you actually go to the police or not is still yours, as the player, to make; all choices are. And let's be clear, the cost was, what -1 love point? It was negligible to the point of irrelevancy, and you end up going to the police in order to sign her up for the self defense classes anyway.
 

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No "half-decent father" would be fucking their daughter, either, so I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed.
Yeah, but they are supposed to be "in love", so we can give that a pass.
Fucking an animal is way way past that, would you let your daughter fuck a random hobo? or a methhead? No. You know why? Because you are her father, her safety is in your hands, so you forcing/allowing her to fuck an animal, with the insane risk of catching a disease that this have, coupled with the moral twistery that you have do for it, turns you into a garbage of a parent/human being. So yes, he's not half decent, but at least he's not supposed to be a degenerate.

Is this the game we were sold at the start? Fuck no. Does people have a right to complain about it? Of course.
 

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Yes, and as a consequence, Camelot is destroyed, and peace and justice are gone from the realm.
That's . . . not a great comparison, chief.


Not having the risk of losing the main female character isn't the same as not having any risk at all, is it?
That might be the most compelling, and most dramatically interesting risk, but it's not the only one, nor one that everyone is going to like. You're suggesting a false dichotomy, and you know it; no-one in the legal profession would miss that.
Lol, yes, I am aware that Camelot collapsed in part because of the affair.

But as for the false dichotomy, I’m not saying “another guy” is the only choice besides some other risk or no risk. We’ve used Rachel. There was Lucas. There could be “my career will separate us due to my travel needs.”
 

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dont know if you realized this but we recently took the daughters v-card a couple updates ago the game has been production for 3 years

the reason why it takes 2 to 3 months for a update is due it not being the focus Melody is the focus due to Pateron preventing this game from being updated on the site

i dont know if your supporter and neither am i so cant say that content thats being added isnt what people wants i mean if people didnt want it they wouldnt be giving him money

He has a subscribestar account which makes more money than Patreon does. By about a 1000$. With 3200$ from Patreon he's making about 7k. Most of those are coming for DMD rather than Melody as harsh as it may be. Blaming Patreon doesn't work in this case. Melody should be a secondary game if we're going by money and supporters.
 

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Yeah, but they are supposed to be "in love", so we can give that a pass.
You can, but I'd call it "debatable", at best. And even if you do give it a pass, he's still casually fucking pretty much every woman with a pulse without telling her; by definition, he's cheating, if you make those choices. If you don't, it's irrelevant, but if you don't make choices that result in a MMF route, or the "pet" stuff, then they won't happen either, and are equally irrelevant.

So yes, he's not half decent, but at least he's not supposed to be a degenerate.
Again, he's fucking his daughter, after coercing her into a sexual relationship; he's already a degenerate.
And to answer your question, I wouldn't "let" my daughter fuck anyone, because it's not my decision to make. Are there some choices she could make that would enrage me, or disappoint me, or sicken me? Absolutely, but again, you don't "let" other people make their own decisions; you can only express your preference, and tell them how certain choices might make you feel, and then deal with those decisions and the consequences thereof.

Is this the game we were sold at the start? Fuck no.
I'm pretty sure I remember the Bestiality tag on Patreon like . . . I want to say three years ago? Was it as long as that? Back when the game first started, anyway; it's been there from the start, though I will acknowledge it wasn't brought up in game, and I kind of hoped he'd forgotten about it. So yes, it's absolutely the game people were sold at the start; they might not have read the small print, but it was there.
It's also worth noting that, to the best of my knowledge, the "pet" route hasn't actually been confirmed to include D, though it's certainly implied.
And as for the Sharing stuff, that's been there just as long; there are literal "Sharing Points" in the game, and the walkthrough has blatantly mentioned the possibility of MMF routes before.

Does people have a right to complain about it? Of course.
People have a right to complain about absolutely anything, and I'm not saying otherwise, but some complaints are definitely a bit sillier than others; "I don't like this thing being in the game, even though we will absolutely be able to choose not to experence it, and even though it was included in the description when the game began" is a less than stellar position for a complaint, in my opinion; your mileage may vary, of course. And if some people deem a complaint to be silly, they're absolutely allowed to say so, too.
 

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He has a subscribestar account which makes more money than Patreon does. By about a 1000$. With 3200$ from Patreon he's making about 7k. Most of those are coming for DMD rather than Melody as harsh as it may be. Blaming Patreon doesn't work in this case. Melody should be a secondary game if we're going by money and supporters.
You don't know what you're talking about and by reading your last posts, you seem to have some personality issues. So I think you should take care of that first and then worry about what a dev does or does not do with his time and money.
 

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I’m not saying “another guy” is the only choice besides some other risk or no risk.
Ah, I believe I misunderstood; I didn't realise you were drawing a correlation between "we lose the main female lead" and "another guy". I take it, now that I have a bit more context, that you meant specifically "lose her to another guy", as opposed to simply "lose her"?
I was referring to the idea the game can have risk which don't involve losing her at all; not to Rachel, or Lucas, or the hypothetical careers. The false dichotomy I perceived, apparently erroneously, was "there must be risk of losing D, or there is no risk at all", and I disagreed with that assertion. It's certainly the most compelling risk, and the easiest to write, but not the only way.
Mea Culpa.

And to answer your earlier queries, I'm one of the people who is perfectly fine having a D/Elena/Jen/Georgina multi-partner relationship, but will not be partaking in any route that would involve D being with another man (should that lock out the ability to have one of those MFF routes, or all of them, then so be it). Other women, certainly, but not other men.
And the reason why is that I'm a terrible person, and something of a hypocrite. Someone mentioned sexism as a potential reason earlier, and I while I obviously see their logic, I have to disagree, at least in my own case (I can't speak for others); women can sleep with as many people as they want, and I've never judged them for it, but if we're in a relationship, I'm their only male companion. If it's a purely sexual relationship, then they can sleep with as many other men as they like, but I wouldn't call that "sharing" because they're not mine to share. Or perhaps I'm deluding myself, and it is sexism.
I've been in several relationships which involved multiple women, but I have never and would never be in one which involved another man, because I don't share my toys. Like I said, something of a hypocrite; but in my defense, at least I acknowledge that, and don't pretend it's moral, or acceptable, or that it makes me "strong", or try to claim it's justified by biology or anything equally gauche. Flawed though I am, I flatter myself that I'm better than that.

Edit: removed a superfluous "a" from "specifically", because I only noticed it after posting, and it was annoying me.
 
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best girl is Georgina imo i personally would rather have Melody for a daughter then the daughter of this game
Melody will always be my Nr.1 girl on this website :).
There are a couple others that are also solid in my top 5 (Daughter from DmD, Daughter from PQ, girl from GhostPhil game, Galatea S.U). that are equally on the second place .... But Melody is just perfection:love:.

Daughter of this game, well used to be my Nr.1 until Melody came along.... Near perfect also :)
That's why i have been pledging $50 for quite a while now to Mrdots....If you create 2 of my favorite games with 2 of my favorite girls... Well, you deserve it(y):)
 

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reading the last day or so, we get the same passive aggressive responses: (the usual, the neverending complaining)
if "this" I will "not" play anymore,
if "this" it will "ruin" the game, please don't add that.

I get it, you don't like a fetish, you don't want it to be in the game.
but since its avoidable why bother at all?
the 2 fetishes Im talking about is sharing and bestiality.

lets take sharing, how can a harem situation be more acceptable than sharing?
why is it ok that a dude can fuck around or have 2+ girls in the same time, while two guys on a girl its totally wrong?
again, I get it, you don't like it, fine, you can avoid it, but why all those passive aggressive responses, like you are trying to make the DEV to not add that in the game, just because YOU dont like it.

bestiality, is not my cup of tea, but I will never tell the DEV to not add it, theres people that enjoy that fetish, let it be avoidable and thats it. end of discussion. next.

I dont like MC to be a fucking cheater. I hate that behavior, for me is to not have respect, its a scumbag mentality, a person that do a lot of damage. Should I rant about this all the time since its "accepted" behavior in most hgames? I can't do shit about that, I can't force everyone else to stop playing cheating games because I dont like it.

No, selfishness is not a nice property. Be happy that the DEVs are making a diverse game with many fetishes, you will know that more people will enjoy it, not just YOU.
 

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No, selfishness is not a nice property. Be happy that the DEVs are making a diverse game with many fetishes, you will know that more people will enjoy it, not just YOU.
please.... can you repost those words when the updates will start gettigng delayed and the updates will have close to no content for those that don;t partake in those fetishes? you know people will bitch about it
 
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reading the last day or so, we get the same passive aggressive responses: (the usual, the neverending complaining)
if "this" I will "not" play anymore,
if "this" it will "ruin" the game, please don't add that.

I get it, you don't like a fetish, you don't want it to be in the game.
but since its avoidable why bother at all?
the 2 fetishes Im talking about is sharing and bestiality.

lets take sharing, how can a harem situation be more acceptable than sharing?
why is it ok that a dude can fuck around or have 2+ girls in the same time, while two guys on a girl its totally wrong?
again, I get it, you don't like it, fine, you can avoid it, but why all those passive aggressive responses, like you are trying to make the DEV to not add that in the game, just because YOU dont like it.

bestiality, is not my cup of tea, but I will never tell the DEV to not add it, theres people that enjoy that fetish, let it be avoidable and thats it. end of discussion. next.

I dont like MC to be a fucking cheater. I hate that behavior, for me is to not have respect, its a scumbag mentality, a person that do a lot of damage. Should I rant about this all the time since its "accepted" behavior in most hgames? I can't do shit about that, I can't force everyone else to stop playing cheating games because I dont like it.

No, selfishness is not a nice property. Be happy that the DEVs are making a diverse game with many fetishes, you will know that more people will enjoy it, not just YOU.

Relationships are not about fairness and justice. I don't care if F dipped his cockhead into every female creature in the galaxy from a cockroach to humpback whale His women don't get that for men and that is where it ends.
 

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lets take sharing, how can a harem situation be more acceptable than sharing?
I'm going to preface my answer by saying that I'm fine with sharing being included in the game as an option, and am in no way, shape, or form advocating for its removal.
But A can be more acceptable than B for a variety of reasons, the most basic of which is"some people get off on A but not B". Since that's a large part of the point of the game, they (and, full disclosure, this includes me) are obviously not going to care about things that don't do it for them. If they have reason to believe that it's inclusion will result in less time and/or effort being spent on the things they do like, then of course they're going to be a little miffed. And that's a fair concern; there is only so much time Mr.Dots can schedule to work on DmD; if he spends 25% of that working on content you wil not see, then he effectively only made a 75% sized update from your perspective. It's an inevitable consequence of the allocation of finite resources in a multiple path branching game.
I have more than one playthrough (D only, plus a few MFFs) and should it transpire that the MFF routes will require a sharing route, with another male, then I'll not finish those routes. This would obviously be disappointing, and so I hope that doesn't occur; I doubt it will, since polyamory and sharing are listed as alternative options.

why is it ok that a dude can fuck around or have 2+ girls in the same time, while two guys on a girl its totally wrong?
Personal preference; people have them. Sometimes they make sense to others, sometimes they don't. The important thing is, no-one actually has to justify their personal preferences; they might choose to, and If you're legitimately curious, then I'd be willing to explain from my own perspective, but you not understanding why they have those preferences doesn't make them irrelevant.

theres people that enjoy that fetish, let it be avoidable and thats it. end of discussion. next.
We agree, and I get that the none-too-subtle my-preferences-have-priority-only-do-what-I-want mentality is wearying, and pretty damn entitled, but they're not going to stop. If they had the self-reflection to do so after you put them on the spot, they'd have already had enough self-reflection to not do it in the first place.
You are absolutely correct that person A's preferences shouldn't mean person B doesn't get their stuff (sharing, in this context). Personally, I'm fine with the inclusion of sharing (or bestiality, or whatever other fetish-I-don't-share that people ask for), I just won't see that content myself.

No, selfishness is not a nice property
No one said it was, but it is the most common defining human trait; everyone is selfish, in one regard or another. But "selfish" and "entitled" aren't the same thing, chief.
Again, the concern that I think some people have (not one I share, but I can at least see their logic) is that in order for Group A to get what they want, Group B will not get what they want. In that scenario, why should Group B care that Group A got what they wanted?
There's also some people whose concern is simply that the fetish in question exists; there's no talking to those people, though. Hell, think how many people have that opinion regarding the game existing at all; from most perspectives, we're all deeply, deeply sick fucks for getting off on this. How many people do you know who'd feel that way about this game, and how likely do you think you'd be to chnage their mind? Same deal.
 
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well i started with DMD ,after i played Melody it was weird for me maybe becoz i started with dmd , i think the same thing happen to u , u played Melody first , maybe thats why u still didnt play it DMD , u r not into it becoz of melody , just saying !
Well I played DmD a bit, but dropped it, because the daughter felt more like a doll, than an actuall character. I couldn't feel anything for her. Especially when you compare it to game that do similiar things.
 
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