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Vasy

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Several of the VN renpy games i download have no audio. The menu shows audio volume options though. Other similar games the audio works great, others its very spotty, (works for some scenes not others). Is this normal?
The volume controls are part of the standard Ren'Py UI and aren't necessarily indicative of the VN having SFX/music. It's up to the dev to decide whether their game will have sound or not. Some don't, some do.
 

numanumani

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Several of the VN renpy games i download have no audio. The menu shows audio volume options though. Other similar games the audio works great, others its very spotty, (works for some scenes not others). Is this normal?
Yes, that's very common.
There are a few out there that have audio, but most do not.
 

RustyV

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Typically yeah, a father/daughter sexual relationship is problematic because of the power dynamic but remember, D didn't grow up with her father. They only just met after a very long absence and she doesn't remember him at all. She maybe feels a familial connection to him at first, but there's no history of a parental relationship and no particular power dynamic in place.
Remember in Back to the Future when Marty McFly went back in time to the 1950's and met his mother? Didn't young her (mother) come on to him (son)? She raised him and he reflected much of her values taught to him as a child therefore when she met Marty with no context she was attracted to him.
That was kind of fucked up for Robert Zemeckis to include in the film.
Wonder if he was a $20 tier DMD patreon (pure speculation with no basis)?
 

Tristrix

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Yay, I had a carefully considered (well., for me - which is probably nonsense for anyone else) post which intentionally downplayed the debate on legality to think about the power imbalance in DMD and what that might mean for the characters, etc. But, that got swept up in the Mod purge.

So, to summarize: I think that the power imbalance which is the elephant in DMD's room should be addressed in Chapter 3 somehow - i.e., despite their current trajectory, the maturation and experience gains of and by D should afford her the insight to question how much of her love for the MC was bilateral and how much may have been due to her idolizing a literal father figure. This could lead to an interesting "open" ending for DMD.
Some interesting background reading RE: the fact that D and MC didn't spend her childhood together in a parental relationship.



That concept is by no means universally accepted in psychology, but it's at least interesting and relevant.
 

fried

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Some interesting background reading RE: the fact that D and MC didn't spend her childhood together in a parental relationship.



That concept is by no means universally accepted in psychology, but it's at least interesting and relevant.
Yes, I actually referenced GSA some time back in this thread. It's not been studied well, so there's no solid idea on it's likelihood to occur, contributing factors (physiological, cultural), etc. in cases where children and their parents meet as adults after a long separation. But, it's fine for an adults-only VN, I figure.

And, it doesn't answer the point I raised, I feel: GSA applicability or not, there has still been a power imbalance since the first day of DMD. I realize this isn't meant to be a psychological study, but as D gains more experience and variety in her life she's naturally comprehending more of the world previously fed to her on a platter - both by her mother (very narrow) and her father (wider, but still mostly from his perspective). In a general sense, it's reasonable for her to not only surpass his anticipated scope in terms of her future outlook, but she may find herself revisiting the underpinnings of their relationship as part of her natural desire to learn more about herself and her options going forward. That could be very interesting.
 

Tristrix

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Yes, I actually referenced GSA some time back in this thread. It's not been studied well, so there's no solid idea on it's likelihood to occur, contributing factors (physiological, cultural), etc. in cases where children and their parents meet as adults after a long separation. But, it's fine for an adults-only VN, I figure.

And, it doesn't answer the point I raised, I feel: GSA applicability or not, there has still been a power imbalance since the first day of DMD. I realize this isn't meant to be a psychological study, but as D gains more experience and variety in her life she's naturally comprehending more of the world previously fed to her on a platter - both by her mother (very narrow) and her father (wider, but still mostly from his perspective). In a general sense, it's reasonable for her to not only surpass his anticipated scope in terms of her future outlook, but she may find herself revisiting the underpinnings of their relationship as part of her natural desire to learn more about herself and her options going forward. That could be very interesting.
I'm not sure there really is that much of a power imbalance though, it's there? She's grateful and excited to finally be meeting her father but I don't recall her ever really deferring to him as an authority figure. In fact I'd say there's less of a power dynamic here than there is between Melody and the NC in her game.

I think at most, the relationship with D and MC is similar to a landlord and tenant. She's reliant upon him for a place to live and that in and of itself creates a certain dynamic, but in not sure it goes much further than that
 

JagHond

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Right indeed, just those ones were the missing in the game. What do we do with Koko? :LOL:

With best regards.
 

JagHond

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That was kind of fucked up for Robert Zemeckis to include in the film.
Wonder if he was a $20 tier DMD patreon (pure speculation with no basis)?
Then DMD's dev. would have shot himself that Zemeckis' movie, I have to guess. :LOL:

With best regards.
 

cxx

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Right indeed, just those ones were the missing in the game. What do we do with Koko? :LOL:

With best regards.
if you mean meeting her on nude beach then nothing besides getting her autograph until dev decides to add her into harem pool (3some with f, k and d or 4some with f, g, k and d).
 

Jeff Steel

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For the games I play and/or support on Patreon, I haven't seen that indication yet.

One of those recently experienced a Patreon "pause" for review/issue out of the blue, but it turned out to be a mistake on the Patreon side (took about a week to resolve). Of note, that same game Dev has recently setup a SubscribeStar presence.
Maybe that was the genesis of the conspiracy - the cow that kicked over the lantern.
 
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Agree totally.
Yes, I actually referenced GSA some time back in this thread. It's not been studied well, so there's no solid idea on it's likelihood to occur, contributing factors (physiological, cultural), etc. in cases where children and their parents meet as adults after a long separation. But, it's fine for an adults-only VN, I figure.

And, it doesn't answer the point I raised, I feel: GSA applicability or not, there has still been a power imbalance since the first day of DMD. I realize this isn't meant to be a psychological study, but as D gains more experience and variety in her life she's naturally comprehending more of the world previously fed to her on a platter - both by her mother (very narrow) and her father (wider, but still mostly from his perspective). In a general sense, it's reasonable for her to not only surpass his anticipated scope in terms of her future outlook, but she may find herself revisiting the underpinnings of their relationship as part of her natural desire to learn more about herself and her options going forward. That could be very interesting.
I wanted to push some darker elements related to her childhood and Rachel sluffing her of into a sound proof room. That would result in a personal bondage/control fetish particular to D. That will not happen n DMD, and D will run the of a path like a Disney Princess - in that all dangers are ultimately temporary and she ends the VN with an unscarred psyche.

(Melody moves away rom this and the next VN... I can only hope we have edgy moments...)
 

goobdoob

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DK - just heard from a post. This is how we slip ito conspiracy theories and aliens replacing heads of state...
I know all about conspiracies!

(stupid youtube won't let me embed this)


(Melody moves away rom this and the next VN... I can only hope we have edgy moments...)
Your new name is Ed Jeff. Because you're edgy!

(for non-native English speakers, that's pronounced edge-f)
 
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