greyelf

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NTR itself has three definitions and they're hard to keep straight.
This is often the case when a person of one culture is dealing with culturally loaded terms/concepts of another.

eg. Westerners / non-Japaneses trying to translate the Japanese concepts into Western ones like Cuckold & Cheating, which aren't a direct one-to-one match. :lol:
 
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ProofreadingRUS

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I wish this site would drop the NTR tag and just stick to English tags (seeing as everyone has to speak English here anyway.) NTR itself has three definitions and they're hard to keep straight.
If it bothers you just close your eyes and think of happy thoughts.
 

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So I got a big problem.

The last version I played was 0.21 , I skipped last update because I was playing many other games and now I want to come back to this but. The last available download for CH2 here on F95 is for 0.215 or 0.23.

Savegames don't work in 0.23 from previous versions and 0.23 is not standalone so how do I play the content in between the versions I am missing? Even though it's annoying to replay everything all over I was up to the task but playing 0.23 with my stats from 0.21 bugs my game and I can't start a NEW game either because the game asks for save or stats.

Where is the 0.22 version and above?? I need to play that and take my stats from there after to input them in 0.23
 
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CarolusRex

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I was just going to ask the same question. Just finished CH2 0.21.5 and when trying to play CH3 0.22.5 or 0.23, the saved progress from CH2 does not show.
 

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This is often the case when a person of one culture is dealing with culturally loaded terms/concepts of another.

eg. Westerners / non-Japaneses trying to translate the Japanese concepts into Western ones like Cuckold & Cheating, which aren't a direct one-to-one match.
I've yet to read anything that makes them seem any different. If you've got a good link or can explain the understanding I'd love to hear it.

If it bothers you just close your eyes and think of happy thoughts.
I'm not complaining about NTR, as that would be stupid. But this site has some poorly thought out tags. The NTR tag could actually apply to this game because you're fucking Olivia and she's with her dad.
 
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ProofreadingRUS

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So I got a big problem.

The last version I played was 0.21 , I skipped last update because I was playing many other games and now I want to come back to this but. The last available download for CH2 here on F95 is for 0.215 or 0.23.

Savegames don't work in 0.23 from previous versions and 0.23 is not standalone so how do I play the content in between the versions I am missing? Even though it's annoying to replay everything all over I was up to the task but playing 0.23 with my stats from 0.21 bugs my game and I can't start a NEW game either because the game asks for save or stats.

Where is the 0.22 version and above?? I need to play that and take my stats from there after to input them in 0.23
Why? Do you want to load your saves or the stats they provide?
 

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Yes, I need to see the stats at the very end but also want to actually play the 0.22 and 0225 content.
That's all chapter 3. Just download chapter 3 and when you start a new game, input the stats you want.
 

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I've yet to read anything that makes them seem any different. If you've got a good link or can explain the understanding I'd love to hear it.



I'm not complaining about NTR, as that would be stupid. But this site has some poorly thought out tags. The NTR tag could actually apply to this game because you're fucking Olivia and she's with her dad.
Check my post currently at 30,616.

Thumbnail (from my view as you will get slightly different definitions across the Internet)
- NTR (netorare): Someone steals your girl away without your consent; with or without your knowledge (note, in some forms this could also be with your consent, but it would be with the realization you are losing your girl)
- Cuckold: Someone has sex with your girl and you stay together as now the beta male; I would argue this is with your knowledge but can be with or without your consent
- Cheating: Someone has sex with your girl without your consent

(A) W/Your Knowing? — (B) W/Your Consent? —(C) Losing gf? — (D) Stay as a beta?
NTR...... (a) Perhaps. (b) VERY rarely. (c) Yes. (d) No.
Cuckold...... (a) Usually. (b) Often. (c) Not really. (d) Yes.
Cheating...... (a) Perhaps. (b) No. (c) Perhaps. (d) Perhaps.

Add in Netori - which is where the MC does an NTR stealing of someone’s gf/bf from their partner

Events so far in DMD:
Rachel & Brad vs. MC - NTR
Rachel & Frank vs. D - NTR
MC & D vs. Frank - Netori
MC & Olivia vs. Graham - cheating
MC & Olivia vs. D - cheating
(Expected MC & Olivia vs. D & Graham - swapping)
MC & Elena or Jennifer or Georgina vs. D - cheating
(Expected MC & Margo vs. D & Boyfriend - swapping)
MC & D & Elena - threesome
(and Martin? still DK if threesome or a gifting/sharing or both)
 

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I've yet to read anything that makes them seem any different. If you've got a good link or can explain the understanding I'd love to hear it.



I'm not complaining about NTR, as that would be stupid. But this site has some poorly thought out tags. The NTR tag could actually apply to this game because you're fucking Olivia and she's with her dad.
Btw, you can always click on my tumblr link as I reposted my post here at tumblr, and I’ve spoken on this and other topics there.
 
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RustyV

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For me the Margo and her boyfriend swapping seems kind of out of left field.
Swapping with Graham and Olivia seems more plausible. The couples have spent a fair amount of time together and consider each other as friends on some level.
But the D and MC have had limited interaction with Margo and (as far as we know) none with Margo's boyfriend. The argument can be made this causal acquaintance can provide an opportunity to test the waters of sharing for D and the MC. They may seldom if ever meet Margo and her boyfriend again so taking a chance with them has less after-the-event baggage.
Either way let's hope D remembers to take her "pill".

I would like to see (I suspect that like many fans) a D+Elena+Jennifer event. To assuage D's guilt the MC could give D his OK for her to explore this aspect of her sexuality. This could finally have D become fully aware and admit to her being sexual attracted to other girls. Which in turn could open more opportunities for D to show affection and flirt with other people.
 
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dave420

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hello its been a while since i palyed dmd and i hope it made some progress since march i do have some old saves from ch2 how do i install the saves into ch3? or dont i need to? cuz if i just copy the saves into the new saves fodler and try to load em the game crashes
 

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Swapping with Graham and Olivia seems more plausible. The couples have spent a fair amount of time together and consider each other as friends on some level.
But the D and MC have had limited interaction with Margo and (as far as we know) none with Margo's boyfriend. The argument can be made this causal acquaintance can provide an opportunity to test the waters of sharing for D and the MC.
The timeline of events I posted upthread indicate that the 1st optional sharing will be with Grahame and Olivia. My take is that D enjoys it so much she is happy to try it again with Margo and Hugo on their night out- it will be her way of thanking her for all the self defense training lol
 
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thestickman

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hello its been a while since i palyed dmd and i hope it made some progress since march i do have some old saves from ch2 how do i install the saves into ch3? or dont i need to? cuz if i just copy the saves into the new saves fodler and try to load em the game crashes
You don't. Start a new game in Chapter 3, and it has you go through and select all of your choices up until that point. There is no importing needed.
 

dave420

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ohh yea i see well since its been a while i dunno if my choices are accurate i mean they go far back is there a way to see my pref choices from ch2?
 

preglovr12

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That relationship was over - I don't think either of those applies.

That was with Graham's permission. I'd call that sharing.
Hey, pssssst. That's (one of) the games writer(s) you're talking to, he knows what he's talking about.
 
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