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You are acting like a troll,so people are asuming you are troll.
Also better learn how to make a several comments in one post.We definitely don't need a full page,only with your posts one after another.
noted and perhaps you could clarify how I am "acting like a troll"
 

RustyV

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Nothing behind F’s back (at least no dude behind his back - D has already played with Olivia and Elena behind F’s back).

It is possible D, with F’s knowledge and approval, could have sex in the other room with a male without F being in that room. Not a guarantee, but a possibility.
F (or F+Elena) could use Jen's spy camera to watch (and record?) his daughter putting on a private live action porn if she has sex in another room.
IMO this would enable the Martin sex event to be smoother then having yet another person know D and the MC are in a romantic relationship.
 

RustyV

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If you want to split hairs, then consider using the NTRS abbreviation - you used "NTR" and as we've seen, that doesn't apply here. There's a reason they are two different words and acronyms.

As it is, Netorase is more about wanting to be cuckolded than just agreed-upon swinging for specific dates, I feel - see the link I offered, perhaps.
NTR, NPR there is a joke in there somewhere. :unsure:
 

mattius77

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I don't really have a stake in the whole NTR/not-NTR discussion, but my understanding of it is if you as the MC have some sort of agency regarding both your own sexual encounters with the object of your desire and their encounters with other partners, then it isn't NTR. There's an element of, shall we say, 'denial of services' from the object to the MC and that MC does not derive any enjoyment from that other dynamic that's required for NTR.

So in this game, where we are MC and D is our object of desire:

* MC can have sex with D = good old fashioned incest sexy time!

* MC can have sex with D who can also have sex with someone else with or without MC present, but MC is okay with that and may even get off on it = swinging/cuckolding

* MC maybe or maybe not can have sex with D who can and does have sex with someone else with or without MC present, but MC is not okay with that and certainly does not get off on it and is perhaps even emotionally harmed by it = NTR

This all seems complicated for the sake of complication.
 

slackster

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F (or F+Elena) could use Jen's spy camera to watch (and record?) his daughter putting on a private live action porn if she has sex in another room.
IMO this would enable the Martin sex event to be smoother then having yet another person know D and the MC are in a romantic relationship.
True but the walkthrough states that the Martin path will be MMF
 
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Jeff Steel

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I don't really have a stake in the whole NTR/not-NTR discussion, but my understanding of it is if you as the MC have some sort of agency regarding both your own sexual encounters with the object of your desire and their encounters with other partners, then it isn't NTR. There's an element of, shall we say, 'denial of services' from the object to the MC and that MC does not derive any enjoyment from that other dynamic that's required for NTR.

So in this game, where we are MC and D is our object of desire:

* MC can have sex with D = good old fashioned incest sexy time!

* MC can have sex with D who can also have sex with someone else with or without MC present, but MC is okay with that and may even get off on it = swinging/cuckolding

* MC maybe or maybe not can have sex with D who can and does have sex with someone else with or without MC present, but MC is not okay with that and certainly does not get off on it and is perhaps even emotionally harmed by it = NTR

This all seems complicated for the sake of complication.
The baseline definition of NTR and derivations is to be “stolen” away.

Netora as a Japanese term for cuckoldry literally translates to “taken away by sleeping with.”

Etymology
From 寝 (ne, “sleep”) +‎ 取る (toru, “to steal”)

Nobody is going to be stealing away D from F. Or F from D.

Both have cheated on each other at this point; both have had sex with another person without telling the other about that experience. But there will be not NTR.
 

Monetauro

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Well, that's why these games are tagged with adult-only content (+18). If there is any susceptible person, or with some psychological problem or trauma, them should try to avoid such games, and for that there is the information in the main post. If there is no tag or reference that names the existence of such a fetish or path, then there should be no problem. The rest is a matter of taste.
I agree 100%
"Half" of the tags make that clear. But it would be too innocent to believe that these people would avoid the game, right.

I say, let people complain. Arguing only throws more wood into the fire. The subject will never die until one side gives way.

In that matter, the only thing that pisses me off is MC's insecurity all the time. He couldn't have a girl who idolized him more than that. Sometimes he looks a lot more like these people than anything. What I meant in the previous post was that. In my view, if he left jealousy and insecurity aside, that matter would automatically die here too.
 

ionDivvy

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If all the NTR posts were removed from this thread....It would probably be about 500 pages shorter
The whole thread is honestly just insufferable these past couple months.

Nobody cares if you hate NTR/sharing. It's avoidable. And this is a porn game to begin with so making D your waifu and arguing about how innocent she is 24/7 in a game about fucking your daughter is honestly just silly and occasionally borders on mental illness. This thread should be discussion about the game itself, not whether you are a hater of XYZ fetish. "Swinging" is in the thread's tags for god's sake, and the MMF threesome with Martin was explicitly revealed in like the first 30 minutes of the game.
 

Ed B

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The whole thread is honestly just insufferable these past couple months.

Nobody cares if you hate NTR/sharing. It's avoidable. And this is a porn game to begin with so making D your waifu and arguing about how innocent she is 24/7 in a game about fucking your daughter is honestly just silly and occasionally borders on mental illness. This thread should be discussion about the game itself, not whether you are a hater of XYZ fetish. "Swinging" is in the thread's tags for god's sake, and the MMF threesome with Martin was explicitly revealed in like the first 30 minutes of the game.
And this is why usually I won't come on here until couple of weeks before next release and then leave for couple of months, until next release
 

cxx

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like other dudes can fuck his daughter?
atm only in dream and in future with at least 2 guys (1 old enuf to be d's grandpa) possibly more, before that only sex d has besides with f is occasional lesbian sex with elena.
 
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