paul1257

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MrDots is known for his large updates.
They have never released a small one, and if they did, people would throw a fit and start accusing them of being like other devs and milking it.

They simply cannot make everyone happy, so they have chosen the only thing that they can do that does not leave them at risk of Patreon shutting them down.
Patreon is the largest of the sites that does what they do, and any others would mean a loss of income for them.

They do not do this for charity, they do it for money, as every other dev does.

Remember, they could have just as easily killed off DMD and just gone with Melody, which most devs likely would have done, so be happy that you still have DMD at all.
Totally agree with you and well said, couldn't believe some of the commements I have read after this update. We were at risk of having DMD finish on chapter two, only for them to come forward with a third chapter on now we are going to get a fourth. They could have just said Fuck It and just carried on with Melody but they stepped up to the plate.
 

cxx

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Une of them spied over D and F by theyr laptop, the other one mounted a spycam in the bathroom at the old F appartment. Not sure though which girl done what.
depending route either of them installed spycam but but on next update it was stated that both installed spycam on daddy's apartment.

How do you get this scene? everytime I play it, it over skips this scene. it just shows rubbing on it and that's it
have you talked with d about anal and fingered her ass and attempted to have anal sex? might be too low points too.

Yeah, we know this because of Koko's age in both games. But then we have this:
yea that got me bit puzzled too. good genes or plastic surgery. :p
 

Dillp

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Oh FFS, I already deleted the older chapters, I have no idea how many love points was I at. What should be a reasonable number to put in at the start?
 

Pitrik

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Oh FFS, I already deleted the older chapters, I have no idea how many love points was I at. What should be a reasonable number to put in at the start?
You can put the number that you want ( ch2 ended with a max of 200)
 
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emissionaire

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Wow, that update was just another nail in the coffin. My God, the game is on autopilot, with no excitement left and super sloppy 3d-modeling.
 

Jeff Steel

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Yeah, we know this because of Koko's age in both games. But then we have this:


Jeff Steel can you ask about this? How can Xianne and Sophia still be the same age as Dee when they're really 10-15 years older?
It is as an Easter egg - you are right the age difference is there in actuality.

in fact, SL will take place in the future from DMD ... at least that is how it currently is envisioned.
 
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TommyTuba

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Wow, that update was just another nail in the coffin. My God, the game is on autopilot, with no excitement left and super sloppy 3d-modeling.
I just finished playing it, too. It left me underwhelmed, too. Some lesbian scenes with Elena and anyone would have been much appreciated! :love::sneaky:
 

DigDug69

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It was talked about as being the release that leads into the sharing content.
I do not remember it saying that there would be sharing in this release.
People are suffering from over expectations.

When you go to see a movie that has been advertised as the greatest ever, but in reality is just pretty good. You tend to come out of the theater not having enjoyed it as much as you would have, if you had gone in with controlled expectations.
 
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Jeff Steel

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I really enjoyed this update. I Have to give major kudos to the writers as for me its the writing of this game that really puts it above the rest.

Whoever wrote the dirty talk during the sharing path scene where F is fingering D is amazing thank you! :devilish: I also really enjoyed the interactions between D and Martin and got very hot and bothered during the scene where she goes to see him before bedtime.

I hope D's first sexual encounter with Martin is without F (but with F's permission) and I would love to see more of the dialogue we see during the dream sequences play out in real life eventually like the "real man" stuff and "something your Father can't give you" etc. Maybe Martin can hook up with D while F is banging Jennifer next door or something :D

Martin has been brilliantly written I think and I really like his character. Even without the sharing route on I hope we get to see him get lucky with one of the other cast that F has turned down maybe Georgina or Jennifer (though poor Jennifer :eek:)

This is all from the female perspective though so I know maybe a lot of guys would not want to see this but I can dream! :love:
Thank goodness we still have some self confessed female fans. We need the input to make sure a male dominated team isn’t screwing up the female perspective too much.

I agree with your POV on wanting Martin to encounter D alone, but that might not happen given our walking the line against NTR. Who knows, maybe something will work out that way.

As for his “real man” comments, it would only be in jest (a very possible jest full statement by Martin), but Martin likes F too much to play that card for real. And in this VN, F is more endowed than Martin - though not sure what actual measurements MDots is using so I could be wrong.

For a no NTR game, we kind of pushed the envelope with D’s going into Martin’s room in a semi-shear white outfit.

we went out of our way pulling up several inputs from several sources to play up Martin as a black man in a society similar the the U.S. The dialogue D overheard in the restaurant comes from a black man who actually overheard a very similar bar situation that he overheard. I think it helps to see Martin’s vulnerabilities, and I look forward to our doing similar work on the SL characters.

As for Martin getting himself a girlfriend... Definitely in the cards!
 

TommyTuba

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Wow, that update was just another nail in the coffin. My God, the game is on autopilot, with no excitement left and super sloppy 3d-modeling.
Mr. Dots animations really need some work. He might look to Milfy City for better examples of how to do quality animations. And all Mr. Dots' girl's boobs totally defy gravity when they're lying on their backs - not realistic at all. Otherwise, I still like the game - especially Elena and Jennifer. (Can't wait to see Elena and Rachel and Jennifer go at it!) And Koko. What's happened to her? Will she be making a reappearance?
 

baka

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at the moment its not ntr, but it could be. and that for me is more exciting.
F&D loves each other, but D is young and horny and shes not fully understand about her body, attraction, lust etc.
right now D is overwhelmed, dudes around her, pushing testosterone toward her.
so, for me D is not sure whats going on with Martin, theres attraction and curiosity.
if you ask me I wouldn't like ntr here, with D and Martin going behind the back of F.
but, I could enjoy a scene, where D and Martin hugging each other, and F catches them.
not because D and Martin want to fuck, but D cares for Martin, but of course theres this attraction and curiosity in her mind.
that would of course lead to "the talk", and D reveals her thoughts and dreams.
that will give us an option to explore that or close the path.
I agree with some of u, that D and Martin could have some time alone, but carefully planned by D&F.
the goal is not to make D & Martin together, but to let D explore her sexuality. and eventually to DP her.
 

Juby89

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Thank goodness we still have some self confessed female fans. We need the input to make sure a male dominated team isn’t screwing up the female perspective too much.

I agree with your POV on wanting Martin to encounter D alone, but that might not happen given our walking the line against NTR. Who knows, maybe something will work out that way.

As for his “real man” comments, it would only be in jest (a very possible jest full statement by Martin), but Martin likes F too much to play that card for real. And in this VN, F is more endowed than Martin - though not sure what actual measurements MDots is using so I could be wrong.

For a no NTR game, we kind of pushed the envelope with D’s going into Martin’s room in a semi-shear white outfit.

we went out of our way pulling up several inputs from several sources to play up Martin as a black man in a society similar the the U.S. The dialogue D overheard in the restaurant comes from a black man who actually overheard a very similar bar situation that he overheard. I think it helps to see Martin’s vulnerabilities, and I look forward to our doing similar work on the SL characters.

As for Martin getting himself a girlfriend... Definitely in the cards!
I am really scared of poking the NTR monster but to me personally a solo first time with Martin with the Fathers permission would not qualify or even be anywhere near NTR. I think its a more realistic thing for someone who is up for sharing his daughter to allow a one on one situation first, maybe he could setup a camera and film it but it would be so awkward if the first time was all three of them. It works with Olivia and her Dad as they have a more swingers vibe to them and I can understand them all getting involved together and I think the first semi sharing scene with them was great.

This is my personal opinion though and I understand that people would hate that but the sharing path is optional and for people that enjoy the thought of D getting banged by other dudes and girls. Also as a female what I enjoy is most likely a lot different to what the vast majority of the player base want so I wont worry too much if it doesn't go that way :D My husband introduced me to the game and he played it a lot differently to how I have.

That shear outfit scene for me was the best part of the whole update it was so fun how they were both so awkward and both definitely wanted each other. It was very sexy and subtle which is an aspect I really enjoy of the series as a whole.
 
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I've seen so much negativity over this update, mainly over the mother taking up so much time in the story. I however don't have a problem with it, I think it gives the story more depth. the idea that the mother, even though she screwed up in just about every way would completely abandon her daughter after 18yrs without another thought seems very unlikely. Her return just adds another interesting twist and shows Mr. Dots is still putting a lot of thought into the story progression, which to me is much better than a rushed finish so he can concentrate on other projects. I think the frustration is just having to wait 3 months for every update that basically amounts to two in-game days. I would however much rather this than it turning into another "coceter chronicles" which was really sad, followers like me took over a year to finally giving up on that game's author returning and resuming the project. Everybody has a right to their own opinion, but I can't help but feel a little bad for Mr. Dots (A Really Good Sport) who takes the time to be active on a site that offers his game for free. It still amazes me how many people will find reasons to bitch about something that they are getting for free. While it was not what I was expecting I enjoyed the update and am glad that the story doesn't follow the same old tired narrative, at least his ending will probably be a lot better than game of thrones was (the tv series). That's my rant, and now I'm going to patiently wait on the next update. Thank you Mr. Dots, I admire your ethics, and I think you are a pretty classy fellow.
 

Brokenbob

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See I've got no sharing on as I am going the pure D route but I still see Martin and D dance this chapter. I didn't think that it was avoidable. Can you avoid it?
The dancing works like this:

Sharing route on:
D asks F to dance, you choose to accept or refuse.

Sharing route off:
D asks F to dance, you choose to accept, no other option.

D will dance with both of them no matter the choice, but it comes down to who she dances with first. If you accept then she will ask F to invite Martin over so he is not alone. If you refuse it is the other way around. The other main difference is who dances closely and dips D.

So sharing Martin first, not sharing F first.

Hope that helps.
 
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Jeff Steel

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I've seen so much negativity over this update, mainly over the mother taking up so much time in the story. I however don't have a problem with it, I think it gives the story more depth. the idea that the mother, even though she screwed up in just about every way would completely abandon her daughter after 18yrs without another thought seems very unlikely. Her return just adds another interesting twist and shows Mr. Dots is still putting a lot of thought into the story progression, which to me is much better than a rushed finish so he can concentrate on other projects. I think the frustration is just having to wait 3 months for every update that basically amounts to two in-game days. I would however much rather this than it turning into another "coceter chronicles" which was really sad, followers like me took over a year to finally giving up on that game's author returning and resuming the project. Everybody has a right to their own opinion, but I can't help but feel a little bad for Mr. Dots (A Really Good Sport) who takes the time to be active on a site that offers his game for free. It still amazes me how many people will find reasons to bitch about something that they are getting for free. While it was not what I was expecting I enjoyed the update and am glad that the story doesn't follow the same old tired narrative, at least his ending will probably be a lot better than game of thrones was (the tv series). That's my rant, and now I'm going to patiently wait on the next update. Thank you Mr. Dots, I admire your ethics, and I think you are a pretty classy fellow.
Lol, MDots HATED the GoT ending. Hated it. ... Me, I was disappointed, but did not hate it. Then again, I was fine with A Phantom Menace, so what do I know.

if you ask me, and I’ve forwarded this to MDots multiple times, the best ending would be something similar to the good ending in Bioshock - with a shot of F’s hand as he passes but with several women’s hands coming into the shot, followed by younger hands of the children.

 
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Lol, MDots HATED the GoT ending. Hated it. ... Me, I was disappointed, but did not hate it. Then again, I was fine with A Phantom Menace, so what do I know.

if you ask me, and I’ve forwarded this to MDots multiple times, the best ending would be something similar to the good ending in Bioshock - with a shot of F’s hand as he passes but with several women’s hands coming into the shot, followed by younger hands of the children.

Kind of like "Raising Arizona" if you are old enough to remember that movie (stars Nicholas Cage). Very similar to the ending you mentioned, a very happy ending to a very wild ride.
 
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