mizilic

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It doesn't matter, Patreon has been looking for a reason to get rid of them, the fewer arguments you give them the better.
If you have nothing going on on Patreon, where is all that money going towards to? It could be argued then that, even with Subscribestart, you are still using Patreon to at least partially found DmD, which may be enough of a reason for them to kick you out.
Yes but i said: "With let's say also a small start of the new game also next month, with only 1 introductory scene or so".
This scene would take maybe 1-2 days to do (if not already made) would be on Patreon only for a start and would hinder the Patreon page from being closed (that would be where the money goes, so to say..). And don't forget that there are Patreon games with only 1 update in 6 months or more which are not closed down!
 

mizilic

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since when sweet and naive game with adorable D turns into shitty fuckfest?.. only fucking remains in the game
Yes but when the "adorable D" fucks everybody who's not on a tree till you count to 3 ... that will be an "adorable fuckfest" :)
Could become also a little "shitty" at times but only by too much ass fucking.. And I dare to say: that would be also "adorable shitty" :)
 

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How do you get this scene? everytime I play it, it over skips this scene. it just shows rubbing on it and that's it
I'm sure it;s one of the many things that they didn't bother to complete and put into this update
 

mizilic

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Want play part of sharing & Martin content day 36, but can't refuse dance with D, can some share a save before the scene, thks in advance =)
If F can't refuse dance with D you probably don't have the Martin route enabled. Click the picture of D (top right) BEFORE the restaurant scene begins and set Martin to yes there.
 
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DigDug69

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Yes but i said: "With let's say also a small start of the new game also next month, with only 1 introductory scene or so".
This scene would take maybe 1-2 days to do (if not already made) would be on Patreon only for a start and would hinder the Patreon page from being closed (that would be where the money goes, so to say..). And don't forget that there are Patreon games with only 1 update in 6 months or more which are not closed down!
MrDots is known for his large updates.
They have never released a small one, and if they did, people would throw a fit and start accusing them of being like other devs and milking it.

They simply cannot make everyone happy, so they have chosen the only thing that they can do that does not leave them at risk of Patreon shutting them down.
Patreon is the largest of the sites that does what they do, and any others would mean a loss of income for them.

They do not do this for charity, they do it for money, as every other dev does.

Remember, it would have been much easier for them to have just killed off DMD and just gone with Melody, which most devs likely would have done, so be happy that you still have DMD at all.
 
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paul1257

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Im surprised this segment hasn't got more hate by the usual suspects- I agree it was very well written ( maybe people haven't read it closely as yet, maybe people are finally taking note of the choices but I expect lots of hate once they realize what this means, even though they chose the path to see it :ROFLMAO:)

Lots of import in D's self reflection in the mirror,

Best of all it looks like we will get to see the back on Matins van soon- please Haertz make it a 77/78 Sandman

Nice juxtaposition with F&Martin escorting D off the dance-floor- referencing the casino scene with D,F & E

Guessing Martins brother will help stop Tyra and Chads plans

Not much discussion of F's proposal

Interesting last choice
Agree with your last point, Thought that this could have waited until later in this chapter and could have been in a more romantic setting.

We even did'nt get the sceen were F went to choose the ring, let alone buying Anal lube!!!!!

Thinking that now we know some more of Rachel's back story am thinking that she may end up being the one who may surprise us in the fact that she may deal with Tyra & Chad if they try to blackmail D if they find out about F & D'd relationship (won't like to get on her bad side) Starting to like Rachel a lot more.
But we also will have Georgina/Elena but to name a few who know about F & D and may also come to D's aid

But knowing MrDot's and team there's going to be some twists along the way could end badly for either F & D or Tyra & Chad

Martin's bound to find out sooner or later

Just finished playing the D only route as well as some of the sharing route's I'm taking (leaving out jennifer as something about her not really liking about this model)

Thought this update was very good as it set's up more of the paths and as been a supporter of Mr Dot's and his team from very early in Chapter One maybe third release and if you take the time to read the dialogue there's hint's along the way.
 

paul1257

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MrDots is known for his large updates.
They have never released a small one, and if they did, people would throw a fit and start accusing them of being like other devs and milking it.

They simply cannot make everyone happy, so they have chosen the only thing that they can do that does not leave them at risk of Patreon shutting them down.
Patreon is the largest of the sites that does what they do, and any others would mean a loss of income for them.

They do not do this for charity, they do it for money, as every other dev does.

Remember, they could have just as easily killed off DMD and just gone with Melody, which most devs likely would have done, so be happy that you still have DMD at all.
Totally agree with you and well said, couldn't believe some of the commements I have read after this update. We were at risk of having DMD finish on chapter two, only for them to come forward with a third chapter on now we are going to get a fourth. They could have just said Fuck It and just carried on with Melody but they stepped up to the plate.
 

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Une of them spied over D and F by theyr laptop, the other one mounted a spycam in the bathroom at the old F appartment. Not sure though which girl done what.
depending route either of them installed spycam but but on next update it was stated that both installed spycam on daddy's apartment.

How do you get this scene? everytime I play it, it over skips this scene. it just shows rubbing on it and that's it
have you talked with d about anal and fingered her ass and attempted to have anal sex? might be too low points too.

Yeah, we know this because of Koko's age in both games. But then we have this:
yea that got me bit puzzled too. good genes or plastic surgery. :p
 

Dillp

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Oh FFS, I already deleted the older chapters, I have no idea how many love points was I at. What should be a reasonable number to put in at the start?
 

Pitrik

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Oh FFS, I already deleted the older chapters, I have no idea how many love points was I at. What should be a reasonable number to put in at the start?
You can put the number that you want ( ch2 ended with a max of 200)
 
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emissionaire

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Wow, that update was just another nail in the coffin. My God, the game is on autopilot, with no excitement left and super sloppy 3d-modeling.
 

Jeff Steel

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Yeah, we know this because of Koko's age in both games. But then we have this:


Jeff Steel can you ask about this? How can Xianne and Sophia still be the same age as Dee when they're really 10-15 years older?
It is as an Easter egg - you are right the age difference is there in actuality.

in fact, SL will take place in the future from DMD ... at least that is how it currently is envisioned.
 
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TommyTuba

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Wow, that update was just another nail in the coffin. My God, the game is on autopilot, with no excitement left and super sloppy 3d-modeling.
I just finished playing it, too. It left me underwhelmed, too. Some lesbian scenes with Elena and anyone would have been much appreciated! :love::sneaky:
 

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It was talked about as being the release that leads into the sharing content.
I do not remember it saying that there would be sharing in this release.
People are suffering from over expectations.

When you go to see a movie that has been advertised as the greatest ever, but in reality is just pretty good. You tend to come out of the theater not having enjoyed it as much as you would have, if you had gone in with controlled expectations.
 
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Jeff Steel

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I really enjoyed this update. I Have to give major kudos to the writers as for me its the writing of this game that really puts it above the rest.

Whoever wrote the dirty talk during the sharing path scene where F is fingering D is amazing thank you! :devilish: I also really enjoyed the interactions between D and Martin and got very hot and bothered during the scene where she goes to see him before bedtime.

I hope D's first sexual encounter with Martin is without F (but with F's permission) and I would love to see more of the dialogue we see during the dream sequences play out in real life eventually like the "real man" stuff and "something your Father can't give you" etc. Maybe Martin can hook up with D while F is banging Jennifer next door or something :D

Martin has been brilliantly written I think and I really like his character. Even without the sharing route on I hope we get to see him get lucky with one of the other cast that F has turned down maybe Georgina or Jennifer (though poor Jennifer :eek:)

This is all from the female perspective though so I know maybe a lot of guys would not want to see this but I can dream! :love:
Thank goodness we still have some self confessed female fans. We need the input to make sure a male dominated team isn’t screwing up the female perspective too much.

I agree with your POV on wanting Martin to encounter D alone, but that might not happen given our walking the line against NTR. Who knows, maybe something will work out that way.

As for his “real man” comments, it would only be in jest (a very possible jest full statement by Martin), but Martin likes F too much to play that card for real. And in this VN, F is more endowed than Martin - though not sure what actual measurements MDots is using so I could be wrong.

For a no NTR game, we kind of pushed the envelope with D’s going into Martin’s room in a semi-shear white outfit.

we went out of our way pulling up several inputs from several sources to play up Martin as a black man in a society similar the the U.S. The dialogue D overheard in the restaurant comes from a black man who actually overheard a very similar bar situation that he overheard. I think it helps to see Martin’s vulnerabilities, and I look forward to our doing similar work on the SL characters.

As for Martin getting himself a girlfriend... Definitely in the cards!
 

TommyTuba

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Wow, that update was just another nail in the coffin. My God, the game is on autopilot, with no excitement left and super sloppy 3d-modeling.
Mr. Dots animations really need some work. He might look to Milfy City for better examples of how to do quality animations. And all Mr. Dots' girl's boobs totally defy gravity when they're lying on their backs - not realistic at all. Otherwise, I still like the game - especially Elena and Jennifer. (Can't wait to see Elena and Rachel and Jennifer go at it!) And Koko. What's happened to her? Will she be making a reappearance?
 
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